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Ambivalent posted:The red envelope money is still in the game, but the red envelopes are tucked away and hidden in some spots in the game. You have to go find it. That is exactly it. They are not especially well hidden either, I found one at the entrance of a massage parlor and one on top of a lock box. One thing I don't understand is do you eventually get a gun permanently? Or is it only in certain missions? I know there is an Agent 47 suit which gives you a silver gun but I haven't tried it yet.
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In the original Sleeping Dogs, you eventually unlock the ability to grab guns from the boots of cars.
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Absorbs Smaller Goons posted:That is exactly it. They are not especially well hidden either, I found one at the entrance of a massage parlor and one on top of a lock box. Once you beat the game you'll have a sweet golden handgun available in all of your apartments, and there's a perk in the police tree that lets you take a shotgun from the trunk of any police car. One of the DLC also unlocks a machine gun / grenade launcher, but I'm not sure how the definitive edition handles that. Other than that though, no. Guns are more or less disposable in the game. You can always leave some of the gang hideouts unfinished, since a couple of them have a gun at the entrance for when they expect you to shoot it out.
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Jan 4, 2015 05:24
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isk posted:The Hong Kong in Sleeping Dogs is perfect for motorcycles. And for shooting people off of them.
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Jan 4, 2015 06:01
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Is there any way to increase the size of subtitles? Some option in the menu I'm missing? Played Sleeping Dogs on my desktop PC. Loved it. Bought the Def Edition and hooked up my comp to the TV to play from scratch. Everyone at home is loving it, like a big interactive Hong Kong flick. A great experience (minus having to squint at tiny subs).
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Axialbloom posted:Is there any way to increase the size of subtitles? Some option in the menu I'm missing? i hope this includes group karaoke sessions joining wei
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Nativity In Black posted:Did you try changing the FOV at all? It was the first thing I tried. Didn't help, I'm afraid. It was always worse on vehicles, too.
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Jan 7, 2015 22:38
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Randomly bought this game today (got the definitive edition on steam) without ever hearing much about it, and holy poo poo it's really good. The voice acting, combat and graphics are all on point. After playing GTA on a console for a really long time, this game on 60fps is such a big improvement.
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Jan 20, 2015 21:16
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It seems another round of Triad Wars invites has gone out, because I've got one now. Not really sure from reading the NDA itself what can and can't be shared, but I don't have anything to tell yet anyways since it's still downloading. Anyways, if you signed up for it before, go check your mail.
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Oblivion4568238 posted:It seems another round of Triad Wars invites has gone out, because I've got one now. Not really sure from reading the NDA itself what can and can't be shared, but I don't have anything to tell yet anyways since it's still downloading. Anyways, if you signed up for it before, go check your mail. I wrote some stuff about Phase 1 and Phase 2 of Beta on this post, it's all stuff that they covered in their Dev Twitch Stream sessions, so shouldn't fall under the NDA. I've been waiting eagerly for Phase 3 because the game is rough but each update improves my impression of it, and the devs' talk keeps me hopeful.
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Feb 6, 2015 18:31
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I just finished Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition on PC. First game I bothered to 100% in a while - took me 56 hours (!). Really recommended if anyone is on the fence, as the integrated DLC (aside from Nightmare in North Point and Year of the Snake) makes it a very smooth, interesting experience.
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Feb 15, 2015 00:34
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DoctorOfLawls posted:I just finished Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition on PC. First game I bothered to 100% in a while - took me 56 hours (!). Really recommended if anyone is on the fence, as the integrated DLC (aside from Nightmare in North Point and Year of the Snake) makes it a very smooth, interesting experience. I'm replaying this game (I finally have a card capable of running things in highest density) Raymond, and the whole HKPD is corrupt as poo poo. I mean, forget Pendrew. When Raymond says that he's impressed that you've managed to infiltrate the SOY to the point where you've made Red Pole, he knows what that entails, right? As in, murder? And when he asks you about what happened to Dogeyes, and Wei says in the smuggest possible way that he hadn't heard a thing, a handler actually concerned with crossing ethical/legal boundaries would pick up on that. Peng isn't much better, since when she's summoned to the scene of the former sex trafficking dungeon with a dozen dudes shot in the head, she implicitly plays dumb by not pointing out the person she knows to be the killer. With that in mind, Wei is a pretty cool antihero. He kills the people who need killing (Johnny Ratface, Dogeyes, Big Smile Lee, etc.) but he also steals cars, hijacks trucks (my favorite minigame), murders 18K and smaller rival gangs. And the HKPD is so hosed up all they can do is wring their hands while Wei solves all their problems for them, while admittedly making a killing on other enterprises on the side. There's no real cop/crim duality to Shen, he's just a force of nature who hates assassins, drug dealers, and sex traffickers, and the HKPD is willing to unleash him just because they got nothing else that could possibly dent the SOY.
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Feb 24, 2015 02:48
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Also, another thought while playing today: the massage parlors in North Point are pretty explicitly whorehouses, right? Uh, right, so how many of those girls giving me buffs were actually forced into it by Dogeyes and Big Smile Lee? I'm gonna start driving to Central to get my massages, just because this "masseuse" calling me daddy and saying she can't walk straight afterwards are just reminding me of Wei's sister. Please, ladies, seek help!
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Feb 28, 2015 00:19
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Jack of Hearts posted:Also, another thought while playing today: the massage parlors in North Point are pretty explicitly whorehouses, right? Uh, right, so how many of those girls giving me buffs were actually forced into it by Dogeyes and Big Smile Lee?
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Feb 28, 2015 00:21
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Accordion Man posted:They are, but there's an actual legit massage parlor owned by a dude that I think is down by the Aberdeen docks. Was rather funny the first time I found the guy. Yeah, there's I think more than one old guy like that ("my cousin does acupuncture! We could give you a two-for-one deal!") in the areas that aren't North Point. It's just bizarre and made me think, because nobody cares about stealing cars, hijacking trucks, extorting street vendors, loansharking, counterfeiting clothes, DVDs, cash (there's a random encounter involving counterfeit money). The sole villains of the game (outside of Pendrew) are those who victimize women, forcing them into prostitution and porn. Then I go pay the prostitutes a trivial sum of money so that I can run through the fight clubs in no time. And the majority of that $1200 HK probably goes to buying more junk from Dogeyes/BSL. poo poo is hosed up, yo. I don't care how far I have to drive, I'm only going to legit joints from now on. For Mimi's sake.
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Feb 28, 2015 02:10
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Jack of Hearts posted:I'm replaying this game (I finally have a card capable of running things in highest density) Raymond, and the whole HKPD is corrupt as poo poo. I mean, forget Pendrew. When Raymond says that he's impressed that you've managed to infiltrate the SOY to the point where you've made Red Pole, he knows what that entails, right? As in, murder? And when he asks you about what happened to Dogeyes, and Wei says in the smuggest possible way that he hadn't heard a thing, a handler actually concerned with crossing ethical/legal boundaries would pick up on that. Peng isn't much better, since when she's summoned to the scene of the former sex trafficking dungeon with a dozen dudes shot in the head, she implicitly plays dumb by not pointing out the person she knows to be the killer. Oddly enough, your remarks about Sleeping Dogs HKPD corruption reminded me of The Ravages of Time for being a feudal-period story with a similarly "corruption is the norm, might as well work with what's there and get mine" cynicism that just so happens to be written in Hong Kong. * One of the in-game Reports is Raymond's own memo regarding San Francisco PD's "offer" of Wei to HKPD -- he absolutely saw this coming, recommended that HKPD decline, and Pendrew went ahead anyway. Then again, Raymond's reasoning in the memo had more to do with Wei's malleable loyalties and potential for personal vendettas, not Wei's brutality or any other ethical concerns in and of themselves... Chortles fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Feb 28, 2015 |
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Feb 28, 2015 03:54
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Yeah, people tend to not realize it but Wei is explicitly not a nice dude at all.
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Feb 28, 2015 03:58
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Chortles posted:Are you sure that Raymond didn't pick up on the response about Dogeyes? It's more likely that he figures that Wei is protected* and whistleblowing doesn't work in Sleeping Dogs Hong Kong, so he might as well try to mitigate the potential damage. I believe that Raymond's harping on loyalties is less abstract than it appears and more a fear that Wei's "going native" might go all the way to joining in on SOY overt (read: violent) actions against HKPD, while Teng (who evidently had a different perspective on Pendrew and undercovers) probably is less worried about Wei "going native" in that way and instead covering for "a Pendrew guy" who's way more willing to play ball than Pendrew's usual guys to the point of moonlighting for and support her in closing her own cases. (Spoiler alert) As we gain access to the reports, it becomes clear that it's not some surprising fact that Wei is willing to shove dudes' heads into rotating saws, but that undercover for the SFPD, he committed murders, not just against the guy who sold his sister an overdose, but likely against other Tong members. Raymond had excellent reason to think Wei was a murderer as an undercover cop for the SFPD. Which accounts for his initial resistance. But when Wei becomes a Red Pole? I'm anglo as hell, but in the mafia, I know that being made means you gotta kill a guy. I'd be surprised if you had to do anything less to become s lieutenant in the SOY. And Raymond is impressed? gently caress Raymond.
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Accordion Man posted:Yeah, people tend to not realize it but Wei is explicitly not a nice dude at all. Wei (and Broken Nose Jiang) are villains who happen to murder greater villains,, which, despite your opinions of the characters, makes them pretty cool.
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Feb 28, 2015 04:16
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One of my favorite bits is when one of Wei's girlfriends confronts him for dating another girl. After she yells at you she walks away, and you can go up and do whatever you want. And my Wei-Shen grabbed her and used the car door melee attack on her, because Wei-Shen is a goddamn psychopath. He's Trevor from GTAV except not terrible.
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Feb 28, 2015 04:51
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Narcissus1916 posted:And my Wei-Shen grabbed her and used the car door melee attack on her, because Wei-Shen is a goddamn psychopath. He's Trevor from GTAV except not terrible. I haven' even played GTA V, but if using the door slam attack on a female character with legitimate grievances is somehow less than terrible, gently caress GTA V.
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Feb 28, 2015 05:03
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What's really funny about this game's plot is that even the most oblivious Hong Kong newspaper reporter must have noticed the spike in homicides within days of Wei's arrival. Imagine how the events of the game would look to the press: - A huge warehouse on the docks burns down after a gang dispute - Dozens, if not hundreds of people die in a wedding massacre turned firefight in an upscale part of town - Another firefight with dozens of casualties happens soon after in a popular club - And another one, this time in the biggest goddamn hospital in the city - Then there's an even bigger shootout at a cemetery where the police were present just before the firing started - Then there's one at a crowded restaurant, and fifteen minutes later a port gas station blows up What kind of crazy disinformation apparatus does Pendrew have to let him pull a cover-up of this magnitude? This isn't me complaining about the game, by the way, because I think the insanity makes it better. Yaoi Gagarin fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Mar 1, 2015 |
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Feb 28, 2015 05:39
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What, you guys never stuffed her in a trunk and drove the car into the bay?
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Feb 28, 2015 05:59
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What? no, why? she was totally right..... drat.
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Feb 28, 2015 06:05
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Video game logic. Also I think there may be a few HK action flicks like that too.
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Feb 28, 2015 06:10
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This may be a shock given his behavior, but Wei Shen is a bit of a hypocrite!
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Feb 28, 2015 06:29
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Jack of Hearts posted:(Spoiler alert) VostokProgram posted:What kind of crazy disinformation apparatus does Pendrew have to let him pull a cover-up of this magnitude?
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Feb 28, 2015 07:14
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Narcissus1916 posted:One of my favorite bits is when one of Wei's girlfriends confronts him for dating another girl. After she yells at you she walks away, and you can go up and do whatever you want. "You think its clever to disrespect women?" - Trevor Phillips, GTA 5.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:08
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Chortles posted:Considering what I stated and you quoted, "Raymond is impressed" reads to me like he was pleasantly surprised to see Wei actually manage to "stay on track" AND not get his cover blown unlike the last guy. I read Raymond's memo as indicating that he absolutely believed SFPD IA's suspicions, but he's stuck with Wei, he probably couldn't pursue his (well-founded) suspicion about Dogeyes for want of non-circumstantial evidence or departmental sympathy, the only thing he believes will work in getting Pendrew to stop covering for Wei is such "hard" evidence of Wei going against their mutual anti-SOY goal (as opposed to his individual gang), and if Wei isn't giving him that... then to paraphrase: "drat, you actually managed to not blow up in our faces." After the dozens (hundreds?) of murders Wei committed during my playthrough, as well as too many other crimes to count, I would have actually loved an alternate ending where you kill Raymond, Peng, and Pendrew (i.e., the only people with explicit knowledge of your status as a cop), and accept a permanent place in the SOY as Jiang's number two or number three. Peng is the only one of the three I'd feel particularly bad about, since again, Raymond himself shows no principled objection to murder.
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Feb 28, 2015 20:02
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Corzaa posted:"You think its clever to disrespect women?" - Trevor Phillips, GTA 5. Bearing in mind he only says that if you don't run over the sobbing woman on the side of the road.
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Jack of Hearts posted:After the dozens (hundreds?) of murders Wei committed during my playthrough, as well as too many other crimes to count, I would have actually loved an alternate ending where you kill Raymond, Peng, and Pendrew (i.e., the only people with explicit knowledge of your status as a cop), and accept a permanent place in the SOY as Jiang's number two or number three. Peng is the only one of the three I'd feel particularly bad about, since again, Raymond himself shows no principled objection to murder. Teng. But yeah, Broken Nose is basically my favorite. She realizes that white collar collar crime is basically 100x more profitable and harder to prosecute, I think, which is more forward thinking than someone like Lee.
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Accordion Man posted:Yeah, people tend to not realize it but Wei is explicitly not a nice dude at all. yeah at the end he's all "ur bad cop im gud cop" when really he just fed a guy face first into an ICE CHIPPER so maybe less with teh  ?
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Feb 28, 2015 22:48
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I like that the story just about always consistently portrays Wei as the hero, especially in that situation at the end specifically, even though a quick look at the context shows that he's kinda nuts. I mean he's definitely not wrong about the triad leaders being awful people who deserve comeuppance, but as Raymond so helpfully reminds him, just because he's undercover does not make him exempt from the law, even though that's what pretty much saves his rear end from prosecution at the end. With Wei Shen, there is no "good cop, bad cop", there is only "bad cop, bad-in-a-different-sense-of-the-word cop".
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Jack of Hearts posted:After the dozens (hundreds?) of murders Wei committed during my playthrough, as well as too many other crimes to count, I would have actually loved an alternate ending where you kill Raymond, Peng, and Pendrew (i.e., the only people with explicit knowledge of your status as a cop), and accept a permanent place in the SOY as Jiang's number two or number three. Peng is the only one of the three I'd feel particularly bad about, since again, Raymond himself shows no principled objection to murder. CJacobs posted:just because he's undercover does not make him exempt from the law, even though that's what pretty much saves his rear end from prosecution at the end. CJacobs posted:With Wei Shen, there is no "good cop, bad cop", there is only "bad cop, bad-in-a-different-sense-of-the-word cop".
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Chortles posted:I take it that this would sidetrack Pendrew burning Wei to Big Smile Lee? Because the "shows no principled objection to murder" part actually seems to be a commonality between SOY (obviously), the HKPD three (in their own different ways), and Wei. Hell, if I recall correctly you can look closely enough in a SOY room and in a HKPD station (i.e. Teng's) and notice little shrines to the dude on Wei's left upper arm... not a coincidence. Can you explain what you mean about the HKPD trio? Teng seems like a perfectly decent, by-the-book cop. And what shrine?
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Chortles posted:Instead, the Year of the Snake DLC reveals that the new bosses ended up busting him down to beat cop for it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnUwcvMCy9s&t=25s
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Rebel Blob posted:Wei's fate speaks for itself. Canonically speaking, they seem pretty invested in the idea of Wei as a Good Dude, because I'm pretty sure I'd go back to hijacking Knox trucks rather than put up with that bullshit.
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VostokProgram posted:Can you explain what you mean about the HKPD trio? Teng seems like a perfectly decent, by-the-book cop.  Teng and Wei didn't start off on a bad foot beyond her not being initially aware of him being an undercover so they don't have the "stuck with each other" acrimony of Raymond, the "IDGAF" of Wei to Raymond, and the "questionable loyalties" suspicion continually looming over them both... plus despite the mega-violence she doesn't have Wei's issues constantly up in her face like Raymond does -- Teng and Wei's interactions mostly consist of pro bono assistance on Teng's cases -- so it's probably easier on her to conveniently look the other way (whereas I think that Raymond isn't looking the other way, he just can't do a loving thing about Wei and the threat to pull Wei out was a bluff). VostokProgram posted:And what shrine? 
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Chortles posted:Jack of Hearts was the one who'd noticed the sex dungeon massacre and included her in "the whole HKPD is corrupt as poo poo", I actually didn't remember that scene at all. Except for that one time with the sex dungeon, where by the time the cops got there all the girls had escaped, while lots of 18K had been shot in the face. I literally have no idea how Teng managed to round up the rest of the gang based on that, but regardless, there's like a dozen-plus dead bodies to ignore. Teng is a decent woman, but in a HK dominated by triads, she has an unusually high tolerance for murder by Western standards. HKPD transplanted to LA would be The Shield but much, much worse.
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Rebel Blob posted:Wei's fate speaks for itself. Chortles posted:Look for one of these the next time you go into Teng's stationhouse or one of the SOY businesses, possibly including Winston's mom's restaurant: quote:. In Hong Kong, a shrine for Guan is located in each police station. Though by no means mandatory, most Chinese policemen worship and pay respect to him. Although seemingly ironic, members of the triads and Heaven and Earth Society worship Guan as well. Statues used by triads tend to hold the halberd in the left hand, and statues in police stations tend to hold the halberd in the right hand. This signifies which side Guan Yu is worshipped, by the righteous people or vice versa. The appearance of Guan Yu's face for the triads is usually more stern and threatening than the usual statue. This exemplifies the Chinese belief that a code of honour, epitomised by Guan Yu, exists even in the criminal underworld.
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