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eschaton posted:you mean keyboard equivalents. they're not actually faster, at least compared to a top-of-screen menu bar. is there any recent research on this that actually takes into account modern screen sizes and the existence of muscle memory, or is it just received wisdom from the 1980s? because I'm hella skeptical. I can believe that flicking the mouse to the top of the screen to open a menu is very fast and efficient, but then you have to pick something from that menu and you're right back to the problem of trying to precisely hit a very small target that is not anchored to the edge of the screen any more. and I'm pretty confident that I can consistently press Alt-F, S faster than you can pick the Save option from a menu, however much you practice. I don't even have to take my eyes off what I'm doing.
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Soricidus posted:is there any recent research on this that actually takes into account modern screen sizes and the existence of muscle memory, or is it just received wisdom from the 1980s? why the gently caress would you alt-f, s when you could just ctrl-s
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Captain Foo posted:why the gently caress would you alt-f, s when you could just ctrl-s I was trying to use the menus to make it fairer
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i dunno, one thing that makes osx handy now is being able to select help and start typing a thing if you're especially out of your head while using your computer saved my rear end while drunk photoshopping
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Soricidus posted:is there any recent research on this that actually takes into account modern screen sizes and the existence of muscle memory, or is it just received wisdom from the 1980s? race me motherfucker
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:race me motherfucker hah, I already pressed it. bet you haven't even finished reaching over for your mouse.
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Feb 28, 2015 19:40
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gluing the menus to the top of the screen made sense when you had a 512x342 monochrome display and only used one application (with one window) at a time and toolbars with buttons didn't exist yet
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pseudorandom name posted:gluing the menus to the top of the screen made sense when you had a 512x342 monochrome display and only used one application (with one window) at a time and toolbars with buttons didn't exist yet osx in fact has toolbars with buttons
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lol is it 2002 in here or something?
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well it is the linux thread
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it occurs to me that poo poo like the hamburger menu is encroaching into desktop uis simply because designers DONT like the menu bar having to be included in every window taking up real estate so youre all loving wrong anyway. osx is right. menus on every window caused the hamburgers
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by that logic, OS X is inferior because there's no way to eliminate the menu bar entirely, unlike Windows
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no because windows also has a full length bar
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Feb 28, 2015 20:04
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which you can autohide if you really care
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i dont care. you are the one who cares. and youre wrong
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Feb 28, 2015 20:07
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wow, that's some quality rhetoric there, pram. good job.
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Feb 28, 2015 20:09
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wipe those tears away
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Soricidus posted:hah, I already pressed it. bet you haven't even finished reaching over for your mouse. mouse? mouse?? i use a track ball like the handsome grownup computer user that i am, dummy. i bet usain bolt uses one too and he's very fast.
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carry on then posted:lol is it 2002 in here or something?  down hill since then imvho
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im the whimsical dragon
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https://community.kde.org/Mac
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"the hamburger" make sme laugh
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i really want one of those hp chromebooks that look like those old mac whitebooks and to put gnome 3 on it............................................................................. i want it badly
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Smythe posted:i really want one of those hp chromebooks that look like those old mac whitebooks and to put gnome 3 on it............................................................................. i want it badly so buy one, they're not even $300
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pram posted:it occurs to me that poo poo like the hamburger menu is encroaching into desktop uis simply because designers DONT like the menu bar having to be included in every window taking up real estate designers are idiots osx is poo poo designers use osx because they're idiots and it's poo poo
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:
kde 3.x was really good especially when they got rid of the eye-searing default theme (YES MAXIMUM SATURATION I'M ALMOST THERE gently caress YES MAKE IT EVEN MORE BLUE AND THEN ADD SOME LICKABLE BUTTONS)
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yeah here we go in kde 3.5 it almost looks not-lovely. same underlying technology they just turned down the brightness a little 
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Cocoa Crispies posted:so buy one, they're not even $300 i dont want one bad enough to buy it
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Smythe posted:i dont want one bad enough to buy it make a go fund me that you have a dream of cuming on one.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:yeah here we go dem fonts
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aw be nice he's very sensitive about his weight and his double chin KDE2 was the best looking KDE by far because they tried to slavishly rip off somebody who actually had taste (BeOS, which was made of ex-Apple people, naturally). KDE1 slavishly ripped off CDE's looks. Which also looked fine in a no-frills businessy sort of way KDE3 was a loving disaster because they decided to try doing their own thing instead of stealing other peoples' design work and surprise surprise it looked like poo poo
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kde 2 really did have great visual design
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Как пропатчить KDE2 под FreeBSD?
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:designers are idiots hmm nope
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Symbolic Butt posted:
it's really weird to watch linus torvalds get old
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:kde 2 really did have great visual design  im kandalf
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Zom Aur posted:
kandalf knows what's up
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