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slap me silly
Nov 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer
Yeah, it's a real pleasure for me to check into a hotel room and have 4x the room I need for all my stuff in the drawers and whatnot.

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pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


slap me silly posted:

Yeah, it's a real pleasure for me to check into a hotel room and have 4x the room I need for all my stuff in the drawers and whatnot.

*Statement does not apply to Japanese business hotels

slap me silly
Nov 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer
Haha! I've done the capsule thing too and you are exactly right. They gave me one locker at the reception desk and I was barely able to cram my backpack in it.

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


slap me silly posted:

Haha! I've done the capsule thing too and you are exactly right. They gave me one locker at the reception desk and I was barely able to cram my backpack in it.

Oh I'm not even talking capsule, you're more adventurous than I am. I'm 6'4" and there's no way you'd get me in one of those. I stayed in this hotel and I fit in the bed and shower well enough but I think there were literally like 4 hooks on the wall to hang things and that was it for storage space. Maybe there was a little something under the TV too. Certainly no closet.

On the topic of packing light though, that trip was my first long trip where I only had a carry-on size bag and that is totally the way to go. Sure you have to laundry every five days or so but it's so worth it to not have to schlep heavy wheeled luggage between destinations. So it was pretty nice to stay in the hotel and be like "huh, no room for stuff, but I don't have any anyways".

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

- Pay off remaining $6,850 on my private student loans in 6-8 months instead of my currently projected 13.
Done as of three days ago. Cut my emergency fund in half to do it but it was worth it just to be down to my federal loan. Which is still large and imposing.

legsarerequired
Dec 31, 2007
College Slice
Background:
- 26 year old single woman
- Salary: $41k/year
- Moved back in with my parents in December 2014 to un-gently caress my finances
- Started off the year with ~$2700 in cc debt
- 401k: vested in ~$19000, $21k total
- Roth IRA: ~$1700 at the beginning of the year
- Emergency savings: $400 at the beginning of the year

It's embarassing to type out my background but at least I'm trying to improve. :unsmith:

Progress on my goals:

1) Paid off my credit card. No more debt for me!

2) Better retirement savings:

- I've kept up with putting 10% of my paycheck into my 401k. My company matches up to 5%. (I purposely have my 401k so high because I used to have a very bad impulse spending problem and I still don't really trust myself to make decent decisions with money that I have easy access to)
- I've put ~$1000 in my roth IRA thanks to my tax refund and auto-transferring $30 from my checking on my paydays. I know this number is too low and my goal is to increase it to $100/paycheck after I hit my emergency savings goal.

3) Ride the bus to work to save on gas and extend the life of my car. I've been doing this a couple of times a week.

4) More grocery shopping, less eating out. This is helping my weight, too!

5) New goal: Make a folder to keep track of receipts for little medical expenses from my myriad of doctor's appointments. I had no idea that I could deduct hospital parking costs, copays, etc and such on my taxes. I have health insurance, but I easily spent hundreds of dollars last year on copays for specialist visits, hourly rates for parking garages, etc. I probably won't have that much this year but it's still worth tracking...

6) No monthly subscriptions to services such as Netflix, Spotify, etc. I have my free trials set to cancel at the end of this bill cycle so I won't get charged.

7) 6-month emergency fund. Put four months of that emergency fund in a high interest checking account. Right now I only have $800 saved up. In December I moved back home with my parents to get my finances straight so I haven't focused on this one as much as I would have if I didn't live at home. I've been putting most of my paychecks into paying off my credit card, which was how I paid it off in early February.

8) Save $4000 for LASIK, which I've wanted for over a decade at this point. The surgeon quoted me at $3500 and I've read online that you can expect to pay hundreds of dollars on eye drops and random fees that insurance won't cover.

9) I'm saving my Southwest and United points by taking surveys! I nearly have enough for a free trip to Cancun. I'm specifically aiming for Cancun because I want to use my advanced PADI SCUBA certification (this SCUBA certification was another impulse purchase from my past).

Bonus Pie in the sky goals: save a down payment on a new car for when my current car's engine falls out, save money for a SCUBA trip, save money for a trip to one of my international goals (Germany or China), save a down payment on a 2-bdrm condo so I can buy and rent out a room when I move out (lol), teach myself CSS and JS so I can make more money and actually be able to afford these pie in the sky goals (double-lol), learn to hangglide

I'm getting a $2489 bonus in a couple of weeks and I think it needs to go into my roth and my emergency savings.

I should have done all of this years ago, but at least I'm doing way better than I was a few years ago.

legsarerequired fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Feb 24, 2015

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

P.D.B. Fishsticks posted:

I actually have found (work) travel and reducing clutter to go hand in hand. Once I began spending a significant percentage of my nights in hotel rooms, I learned very quickly how little stuff I actually needed.

This is very true! I travelled to San Francisco for a week recently and was able to get everything I needed into my carry-on bag and backpack. I even brought running gear, which was awesome.

Pro tip: stuff your running shoes with socks and deodorant or whatever you can fit in there that doesn't need to be sanitary.

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.

Not a Children posted:

2014 was good, but not great. Gonna see if I can't improve this year.

2015 Goals:
Increase my gross income to $75k.
Add at least $15k to my 401k and max my Roth IRA.
Somehow decrease my housing expenses, either by moving or otherwise compensating my current landlord in some way.
Maintain a girlfriend without driving her nuts with frugality
Maintain good grades in school; B or higher gets me back 100% of tuition costs!

edit: This is a stretch goal, but add $10k or more to savings. I'll be mentally and financially ready for a house purchase by 2017, I think.

Progress report:
- On track to reach my income goal. The $75k goal and the "doing well in school" are closely intertwined; if I pull off the latter, it should easily push me into the former.
- On track to max 401k; may actually draw this back a bit, since it's cutting into my ability to add to my house savings. I'm going to wait until I see what my yearly raise looks like in April before I make any moves. Roth IRA was maxed with money pulled from my non-emergency savings; I'm replenishing those funds with money left over from budget each month.
- Housing expenses have remained constant, but may go up or down in the next couple months -- there are tons of great places around, I just need to choose one. Weighing space vs comfort vs location, and I hate the whole drat process of looking.
- Girlfriend is completely on board with keeping things frugal (eating in, finding cheap things to do, etc) but alcohol and video games remain categories we could probably stand to reduce. We treat ourselves to 2 meals out together a month.

We have a mini vacation to Miami planned for June. The flights were paid for with old frequent flier miles, and we have a cheap airbnb and car rental. Overall, 4 days of fun in the sun should run us less than $250 a piece.

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!

Nail Rat posted:

-sell the condo and move to the city
-add 3k to emergency fund(this will make it 6-7 months)
-contribute 6k to 401k
-contribute 5500 to IRA
-contribute 3350 to HSA
-finish the year by paying off the loan I'll doubtlessly need to sell the loving condo

If I do all this, my net worth will move from about 29k to about 71k and I'll be poised to max the poo poo out of everything starting in 2016. Also my fiancee makes so much less than me that we'll get a giant refund in early 2016.

Update a couple months in:

-still working on the selling. I've had good feedback and a ton of showings(8 in the first 10 days so far) but no offers yet despite being the only unit in the building on the market that includes a deeded garage space. Being on the first floor of an 11 story building sucks.
-The 3k has been added, but not sure if it's going to be able to stay there.
-On track for the 401k contribution. That amount doesn't include employer match.
-On track for the IRA.
-On track for the HSA.
-The last goal is probably the least realistic. If I sell my condo at the asking price, I'd have to take a 23k loan to cover the loss plus closing costs. And I think I'm going to have to come down another 7500. I really don't care, I can have that paid off by the following summer, I just want out of this loving money hole. If I do have to take a 30k loan, I should be able to at least pay off about 25k by Dec 31st. Some might say just wait another year then, but this building is 40 years old and so is the HVAC unit, it's a time bomb as well as a money hole. A money hole that's about to become a money sinkhole. Plus all the painting I spent the last 8 months doing on my rare time off wouldn't be as fresh then.

Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Feb 27, 2015

spinst
Jul 14, 2012



Goals:

Continue paying an extra $100/mo on my car loan, at least until I move.
Save up enough to cover moving costs (I have $1k so far) without dipping into the e-fund.
Save up enough for a couch and bed frame, as I don't want to take mine.
No credit card debt!
No student loans! (Which means I need $3k saved by Oct. '15).

Progress:

Still paying extra on the car, I'm now 10 months ahead on payments. :)
Moving Fund is at $1,608.16. This is already enough to cover any double rent, deposits, etc. Putting in extra for furniture.
No credit card debt.
Grad School fund is at $814. I'll need $3k by October, and another $3k in April 2016.

The Experiment
Dec 12, 2010


The Experiment posted:

In 2014, my net worth jumped from $85,000 to $125,000. I made a more conscious effort to save money this year than in previous years. I also started investing money. In the past, I usually hoarded the money in my checking account.

The 2015 goals:

- Increase net worth to over $175,000. It'd be nice if I can hit $200,000 by the end of the year.
- Max out 401k, Roth IRA, and HSA
- Remain debt free
- Retain emergency fund of $75,000 and any dollar past that point gets moved into taxable investments or some other way of making money instead of sitting in the account.
- Diversify my income. I want to make sure that I make money from more than just my full time job. I want money coming in from multiple sources. I just don't know quite yet what I will be doing to achieve this goal.
- Set up a budget. I can't make my ideal #1 goal otherwise.

1) Net worth is at $140,000. It was up to $142,000 but took a hit because I bought tickets for my European vacation. My tax return hasn't arrived yet or else it would have remained around $142k. Still a success since it increased by quite a bit.
2) Everything has been locked in place since the 1st of the year so this won't change. I bit the bullet and checked out the expense ratios on my 401k. Sure enough, not a single fund available is below 0.5%. The highest one I have is 0.68%. I asked my HR department about adding some Vanguard funds and they basically told me to go pound sand. I gave them all kinds of information but no dice. My March goal is to realign my 401k funds to the funds with (relatively) lower expense ratios. Then see if there is any deficiencies with the balance in the portfolio and make it up through the non-retirement account I have at Vanguard.
3) Still a success!
4) See #3
5) Things this month through May are very busy. This is probably going to be on the back burner for now.
6) I have kept within my budget but I stopped using YNAB. I still have a Mint account and Excel spreadsheet that I prefer to use.

P.D.B. Fishsticks
Jun 19, 2010

P.D.B. Fishsticks posted:

2015 GOALS

Reduce dining out spending to $150 every paycheck (two weeks). Based on my Quicken categories for last year, this will reduce my dining out expenses by about $1300 for the year, depending on how much I travel for work.* Of course, my actual savings will be somewhat less than that since my grocery bills should rise.

* Restaurant spending when I'm on work trips (and thus on per diem) won't count against this goal, so it should be pretty easy on pay periods where I'm travelling. In theory I should prorate the amount by the number of nights I'm home in a pay period, but I'll keep it simple this year.

Finish paying off my student loan by the end of June. I owe about $5K (down from $89K!), and I've been throwing about $1000 per month at it (after maxing out my employer 5% 401(k) match and my Roth IRA) for the past few years, so this wouldn't be too challenging -- except that my old paid-off truck got to the point where I'd had it in the shop six times in two months, so I ended up buying a car last October, and I have a car payment again. Fortunately, literally doubling my fuel efficiency has offset the car payment somewhat, but it's brought down what I can contribute to the loan a little. At least both the student loan and car payment are under 3% interest, and I have no other debt.

Save up enough for an overseas vacation by the end of the year. My sister just moved to Germany last month, and I'd like to take her up on her invitation to come stay with her for a couple weeks. Given the schedule of the project I'm on at work, I probably won't be able to actually take two weeks off until early 2016, but I'd like to have the money saved up by the end of this year. Back of the envelope calculations tell me I'll need to save about $3250 (no lodging expense, but a lot of margin for error built in for the other expenses). Hopefully I'll be able to cut that down by cashing in some frequent flier miles, but I'd rather save too much and be pleasantly surprised, so $3250 seems a reasonable goal. If I can get the student loan paid off by June, I figure I can immediately start throwing the amount I was putting toward it into a savings account; anything left over will likely go to extra payments on the car.

1. Restaurant spending is still on track and pretty consistent. It's been a lot easier to stay under my $150 limit than I thought it would be.



2. I didn't get to pay as much on my student loans as I'd hoped for my February statement. But I've already paid $625 on my March statement, so that one should look better. I'm still not certain that I'll be able to hit zero by the end of June, though.



3. Won't start until #2 is paid off.

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


pig slut lisa posted:

-Keep home alcohol purchases below $50/month

January's total: $17.99
February's total: $43.47 (includes a 12 pack we bought on the 28th to boost us into March)

Monthly average: $30.73

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

I love capitalism!! DM me for the best investing advice!

Veskit posted:

1) Be free of consumer debt, which stands at around $6,000
2) Have 3 months of expenses saved up
3) Budget all year (I stopped for 3 months)
4) Do these things and be able to afford to go to EVO 2015
5) Donate $700 to charity


1) It shot back up to fix my girlfriend's car. BLEH. The horizon looks fine but that number looks bad at this exact moment. It has about a 10% dent in it right now.
2) I have a full month of expenses saved up which puts me above target on that one
3) I reconciled the past 2 weeks so stumbled on this one, but I was financially stable and doing things fine.
4) STILL ON HYPE TARGET
5) 115 dollars so far and still on target. All those dollars are matched so by the end of the year it will have been around 1500 dollars toward an engineering scholarship for women :toot:



Late march early april I should get a bonus and there is a possibility of a windfall this year so stay tuned!

root of all eval
Dec 28, 2002

BossRighteous posted:

2015 Goals:
1) Pay off 2 credit cards @ $4.4k and an additional $2k in the final card (remainder of 8k)
2) Save an additional $5.8k for a $7k savings total
3) Release (now partially) completed Android game
4) Take on $7k in additional freelance web development clients
5) Don't spend any money in a casino unless it's on drinks with free music

1) No progress beyond minimums until savings goal is met.

2) Savings now up to $3,248.

3) Progress has been pretty good, expecting an April release.

4) This has changed focus. I've actually decided to shop around for other full time positions that would double my current my income (I work part time now.) I've updated my resume, my website, applied to 3 positions, and joined a monthly industry mixer. It feels really good to be moving in a direction again. With my current job security I have the time and leverage to shop around for a best fit.

5) Went on a little trip to the pine country this weekend and the motel we stayed at had shuttle service to a casino. We got $40 in free slot play and walked away with $41.75. Never had to put a dollar of my own money in and cashed out every spin that won. I had like 12 tickets adding up to the 41 which was hilarious but at least I wasn't recycling winnings into losses.

-----

2.a) On top of all of that, I discovered that my late fathers estate is finally closing after 2 years. Two mortgages worth $70k+ total were barred from claim for not filing their paperwork in time. They will repossess the properties at what would have been a market loss for us. That is huge because it makes the estate solvent against the remaining claims and leaves a sizable $5-7k to the remaining heirs. It may take a while to finalize but that will really move our savings or credit card debt needle, depending on where the goals are when the resolution comes about.

2.b) 2014 was the first year of my wife being a full time contractor and her estimated taxes were way off due to (we think) personal payroll taxes. We'll owe about $2-3k. Ouch. We'll know for 2015 I guess.

root of all eval fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Mar 2, 2015

numerrik
Jul 15, 2009

Falcon Punch!

I believe I posted on this thread, but it's time to check in for March. I'm probably going to pay off the credit card in April because my tax refund has not gotten here yet, missing my desired date. other than that my other financial goals are on track it might be a little touch and go with paying off the student loans but they should be paid off by February of next year at the latest. On the plus side I got my girlfriend onto a budget and we're re working on getting her monthly spending on dine out food under $400.

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe

Devian666 posted:

My goals are:

to increase my net worth by $20k in the next year.
to convert some net worth to income producing investments totalling $40k additional (including the above goal).

The aim behind this is to increase my passive income and diversify my investments. My revolving credit on the house will end up being leveraged more but to a comfortable level, allowing some buffer in the emergency fund. 2014 was really the year where I've changed everything around to invest as I don't need more material possessions at this point.

My net worth is up $11k but my investments are only around $9300. I'm not quite where I thought I'd be but I need to review my forward cash flow. Then I'll open my stock market account so I can but the ETFs I'm looking at.

zamin
Jan 9, 2004

zamin posted:

Goal 1: Build up a one month buffer in checking (~3k). Started YNAB on 1/5 with about $200 to my name (spent way too much on Christmas). Current buffer as of today = $384. Rolling over about $150/mo at the moment, but May is a 3 paycheck month and I'll also get at least a $600 minimum bonus, which will fill the buffer.

Not too much progress in 2ish weeks. I spent less in a few categories than I had budgeted for, so my rollover into March was $130 higher than expected, bringing me up to $514.

Now that a couple big-ticket expenses are out of the way, I should be able to increase the amount I'm rolling over (and saving up a little bit each month for these expenses next year) by at least a couple hundred a month.

After this month, I'll have 3 full months of data in YNAB, so hopefully I'll be able to analyze it and find some places to trim some fat.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




legsarerequired posted:

It's embarassing to type out my background but at least I'm trying to improve. :unsmith:

You're 26, debt-free, employed, and have over $20K in savings. Maybe things were bad before, but you seem to be in good shape. Nothing to be embarrassed about. Keep it up!

balancedbias
May 2, 2009
$$$$$$$$$

balancedbias posted:

Well, this is going to be an interesting year depending on the timing of when we're looking to have our second child. We have a 3 year-old right now. Job situation is solid and funding all of our dreams, so I'll do my best not to screw it up somehow. No loans besides a mortgage, both of us working, fully stuffed emergency fund. These are not necessarily in order.

1-Max out 401k

2-Max out 457 (I learned about this late 2013 thanks to this forum and have been funding it ever since! :woop:)

3-Max out BOTH IRAs - I've always funded mine, but this'll be the first time for my wife.

4-Roll over the nondeductible traditional IRA into a Roth - *sigh* so thanks to learning more about the requirements in the past few months, I realized that I've been screwing up. I knew that my IRA contributions weren't deductible for the past few years, and we don't qualify for the Roth directly, but I didn't know about form 8606. So there's going to be some 'splainin to the IRS, some vetting of a decent CFP and tax expert, and ultimately some Roth money that I should have done a while ago. Thankfully I don't have any deductible traditional IRA money.

5-Continue monthly funding of 529 - the amount may change, again depends on theoretical baby #2.

6-Increase life insurance - this I'll admit we've both been huge slackers. Well, more specifically me, since I made 4x what my wife did this year. She pointed out "If you drop dead, I'd be fine in the immediate run, but the future would be reaaal sketchy" and she's right :smith:. As soon as we sit down and calculate the proper amount, I can definitely afford a bigger term policy.

7-Make accelerated payments on the mortgage to the tune of 12,000 total for the year

8-Adjust quarterly estimated payments so our 2015 refund is under $1000. This is always tough because the work schedule shifts occasionally.

1-401k contributions are automated, so this is on track.

2-ditto for 457

3-This may change so that we contribute for my wife last year, then later on do the contribution this year. See below for how things change...

4-Got a CFP that actually understood the situation and is willing to help with the wording to the IRS and doing the old 8606 forms. The other issue is that we friggin destroyed out budget due to helping out family during their time of need. That slowed down the IRA stuff, and I'm picking up extra shifts to make up for it. The thing is, extra call is like a feast-or-famine situation and I was usually more comfortable on the famine side, so to speak. The extra bucks means that I'm possibly going to be a little burnt out midway through the year but we can actually increase our goals beyond what we had expected!

5-529 is on autopilot, steady as she goes. Planning on pregnancy by mid-year. So scary, so exciting!

6-Done! independent 20 year term life with an amount that lets her take care of everything. (Note to self: sleep with one eye open.) :ninja:

7-Keeping the bulk of this extra mortgage payment in a cash account until I'm sure no other family drama comes up this year. Plus we may refinance and if it's reasonable I may use some of that for closing costs. Again, thanks to extra call the total amount is leaning towards being bigger than we had initially hoped.

8-Yeah, this is not feasible. I'd rather not go through the mental gymnastics of min/maxing the tax refund with all of the other stuff going on. It looked great in January, but then February Family Fuckup month happened :cry:

Rick Rickshaw
Feb 21, 2007

I am not disappointed I lost the PGA Championship. Nope, I am not.

Rick Rickshaw posted:

I just calculated how much my net worth would increase next year if my spending matches my budget and there is no real estate or stock market crash: $46k.

So with that in mind, given my current net worth of roughly $65k, I'm aiming for a net worth of $100k by the end of 2015. Should be easily doable if I can resist all big purchases.

Specifics:

-Attain net worth of $100k
-Contribute max of $4,500 to RRSP
-Contribute $27,000 to TFSA, eating up remaining limit
-Survive first winter biking and avoid getting hit by a bus, since biking helps make this frugal lifestyle possible and enjoyable.

2015: The year of catching up on my early 20s financial illiteracy/stupidity. :shepspends:

A glorious year it shall be.

Progress:

1. Surprisingly at $73k~ already. On-target I would say.

2. Waiting to confirm my limit for this year. Will probably wait until the summer to max this out.

3. Contributed $3500 so far. My tax return should be around $7k (I should have adjusted my withholding), which will go toward this.

4. Despite the record-setting snowfall in February, I've managed to keep biking and not die. This car-less lifestyle, outside of occasionally renting, is going great.

When the cold weather hit in January I bought another bike, totalling around $700. It felt like an impulse buy, but I needed a hybrid for the cold, but clear days. My beater road bike just wasn't cutting it due to the handlebar type. As a result my spending is about $600 more than budgeted for Jan/Feb. Fortunately I don't think I'll be making any other big purchases this year. I am set for bike stuff and clothes. Anything that could pop up is taken care of.

Rick Rickshaw fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Mar 3, 2015

dreesemonkey
May 14, 2008
Pillbug
2015 Financial Goals Update
  • Continue contributing to retirement accounts and kids 529 plans - Pretty lame goal but we're on track
  • Pay off our car ($9500 owed) - Paid off in December
  • (New addition) Start using YNAB to effectively plan/budget our money - This has been going quite well, we're still overspending in some areas but overall thumbs up. Feels great to have a plan and (mostly) stick to it.
Non-financial goal(s) Update
  • I'm hoping to work less in 2015, it's been a very busy year for me and not bringing my work home with me will be a wonderful change of pace - This one is going great. Still have a lot to do, but it's much less of a "get it done immediately" type thing.
  • (New addition) Lose some weight and keep it off - Also going well, I'm down 10-12lbs (I'm at my goal weight more or less) and have almost a 60 day streak of logging in myfitnesspal.

semicolonsrock
Aug 26, 2009

chugga chugga chugga

semicolonsrock posted:

Save 75% of my post-tax income! Same as last year. Like 10% of this savings will be in a 401k so I can hit my employer match, the rest in a passively managed index fund (ie wealth front).

As an addendum to this: find a consistent source of side income to make meeting this goal more easy, though at the moment it's actually not been super painful.

Q1 (ish, ok, I jumped the gun): I have saved a total of ~80% of my income so far this year, pre-tax. Gonna try to add some side income now that I've learned some programming, which hopefully will speed that rate up. Adding income seems to be an important way to make that number grow, and doing so with a business (software) with very low costs seems like a good idea.

District Selectman
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

legsarerequired posted:

Background:
- 26 year old single woman
- Salary: $41k/year
- Moved back in with my parents in December 2014 to un-gently caress my finances
- Started off the year with ~$2700 in cc debt
- 401k: vested in ~$19000, $21k total
- Roth IRA: ~$1700 at the beginning of the year
- Emergency savings: $400 at the beginning of the year

It's embarassing to type out my background but at least I'm trying to improve. :unsmith:


You should absolutely not be embarrassed by this!

Also, just the fact that you're aware of your personal finances, I can guarantee you will be in awesome shape in no time. BFC is a self selected group. This forum is not representative of the general population. I've gleaned information from my friends over the years that's shocked me. Outwardly successful or even seemingly frugal people that are totally broke, or people who you think are *only* broke that are $50k in debt with an $8/hour poo poo job. I'm 32 also. My friends are generally around my age. Broke as poo poo.

It's the seemingly frugal people that confuse me the most. These are people who don't own nice things, don't drive an expensive car, live with roommates, eat noodles and canned tuna fish, don't travel the world, and make $75k a year. WHERE IS YOUR MONEY GOING??

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


District Selectman posted:

It's the seemingly frugal people that confuse me the most. These are people who don't own nice things, don't drive an expensive car, live with roommates, eat noodles and canned tuna fish, don't travel the world, and make $75k a year. WHERE IS YOUR MONEY GOING??

The Bad With Money Thread formally requests an investigation of these people you know

District Selectman
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

pig slut lisa posted:

The Bad With Money Thread formally requests an investigation of these people you know

It took me years to even put together the clues that they are indeed quite broke, and I'll never be like, "Hey friend, so I was wondering. How are you so broke? I ask because you have a good job, but no nice things and also no money."

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


District Selectman posted:

It took me years to even put together the clues that they are indeed quite broke, and I'll never be like, "Hey friend, so I was wondering. How are you so broke? I ask because you have a good job, but no nice things and also no money."

Tell them it's for an internet forum. They'll understand.

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.

I've found that when well-to-do people are perpetually broke/indebted in a nonobvious way, it's because of one of 4 things:

-Dating irresponsibly
-Eating out too much
-Expensive hobbies
-Gambling

Or a combination of the aforementioned thereof

The Experiment
Dec 12, 2010


I graduated college with almost $90k in debt, even though I had a part time job, lived with roommates, and I had almost nothing to show for it (except the degree). I once reflected how I was able to do this and it was mostly this:

- Going to bars and never really caring about the tab at the end of the night (usually $50 minimum).
- Eating out constantly. I convinced myself that I was often too busy to cook anything at home. Plus I wanted to eat healthy so that was definitely expensive.
- I bought huge video game collections. I went on a Sega Saturn import spree that likely set me back $3,000. I wound up selling the whole thing for about $600. There were other examples but that was the most egregious I could think of.
- Smoked a shitload of weed. I was usually generous with it so a big bag lasted a lot less than it normally did.
- I worked out a lot. I also took a lot of supplements, most of which were expensive and provided no real benefit whatsoever. A lot of it was junk like Guggulsterones: something that was expensive that may possibly cause you to lose a half a pound of fat over a year if you take it religiously.

I was just dumb with money during that time.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

Not a Children posted:

I've found that when well-to-do people are perpetually broke/indebted in a nonobvious way, it's because of one of 4 things:

-Dating irresponsibly

This one confuses me. I am guessing you are saying guys (because come on...) who just drop mad coin on dates to impress girls and send them home in ubers...oh...so slow motion. Got it.

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



spwrozek posted:

This one confuses me. I am guessing you are saying guys (because come on...) who just drop mad coin on dates to impress girls and send them home in ubers...oh...so slow motion. Got it.

I ended up paying for a girlfriend who lived with me for about 6 months with no income of her own. Her dad paid car insurance and gave her a bit of spending money. I bought clothes/groceries/eating out/cosmetics/etc.

*as an example of what the poster may mean

fuzzy_logic
May 2, 2009

unfortunately hideous and irreverislbe

fuzzy_logic posted:

Goals for next year, by priority:

- stick to the new itemized budget. Shuffle money between categories as needed instead of pulling money out of savings.
- save up deposit for move
- collect old deposit from annoying roommates after move instead of avoiding the issue because they're too annoying, seriously it's a lot of money and I owe some of it to someone else
- pay off smallest loan
- double e-fund to 8k
- start some kind of retirement savings, either 401 or IRA, do some research self
- attack the highest interest loan and at least half it
- restock the etsy store and try to at least cover my hobby expenses there


#1 - doing okay, went over a bit the last 2 months but I spent the last week horribly ill, so eating nothing, going nowhere and not doing anything may have re-balanced things
#2 - DONE, had plenty for deposit, pet deposit, prorated rent AND I can have someone paint the room and move my stuff!
#3 - unclear
#4 - nearly done
#5 - hopefully still doable, not really on track for this until 4 is done
#6 - got the form to fill out, haven't turned it in yet. Progress?
#7 - underway, going really well :black101:
#8 - no progress, but haven't spent anything on hobby yet this year, cleaning out stash yarn and using presents I got at Christmas :)

Overall I think I'm doing good. Also moving to a place that will cost slightly more but offer a much better lifestyle compared to what I get at the current place. If I can get the dollar amount of my original deposit and pry it from my roommates' broke-rear end fingers I'll be very very happy.

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe

Not a Children posted:

I've found that when well-to-do people are perpetually broke/indebted in a nonobvious way, it's because of one of 4 things:

-Dating irresponsibly
-Eating out too much
-Expensive hobbies
-Gambling

Or a combination of the aforementioned thereof

Drinking and smoking. These are very expensive, more so when combined.

JohnGalt
Aug 7, 2012

Devian666 posted:

Drinking and smoking. These are very expensive, more so when combined.

Or saddling themselves with payments on everything. I work with a lot of guys who come right out of high school making $70,000+/year and get up to the low $200,000s in 8-10 years if they're smart. First thing they do? Buy a brand new pickup and dump another $50,000 into it on top of a house/boat/ATV/bike/etc...

Guess who's in a lot of trouble when work slows down.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

pig slut lisa posted:

How do you plan on enjoying time away from work in March?

Just following up on this. I scheduled (and attended) a 90-minute massage session ($95 before gift certificate, $35 afterward, all of it tipping the therapist) on Monday last week, and I've booked out Thursday and Friday of this week as a 4-day weekend to go spend time with my family. I am back on track for the stress-reduction side of things. :)

I've tallied up my paychecks, annual bonus, and royalty checks for this month. I'll be making somewhere between a $15,000-19,000 payment on student this month depending on the outcome of one medical bill dispute next week, so I should still be great for keeping ahead of the game on loan repayment. Also, side-biz is back on track with last month's royalties for >33% growth YoY.

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe
I seem to have blown through my goals accidentally. House prices in my area are up with the current growth, just a bit more than I thought would happen when I bought last year. My net worth target increase for this year was a $20k increase but it has gone up $7k from income and $35k from the increase in value of my house.

My second goal was to have $40k extra invested and with the house price increase that goal has been passed at $43k. I'm making the stretch goal $40k invested in non-house assets.

TouchyMcFeely
Aug 21, 2006

High five! Hell yeah!

TouchyMcFeely posted:

Goals for 2015
1) Get through our wedding in May without taking on debt (~$3,000 left to spend)

Done and done. We made the last transfer to the "Wedding Account" and will have paid for our getting hitched completely in cash. It's really strange to think we'll have paid a little over $15,000 when it's all said and done and not a penny was borrowed to make it happen.

Now it's time to focus on paying off the car and getting the emergency fund moving again. Woohoo for progress!

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica
Income - $1,560 a month plus a variable $450-$900 a month starting in april and may, then august till the end of the year.

Goal - Have enough in the bank by 2016 to handle any major repair my fiance's car and our condo needs so she doesn't have to run to daddy money bags for help. Other goal is to get to making unnecessary sub $5 purchases once a week or less. Already hosed up this week - blood dragon was on sale for $3.

Currently $1,337 in savings. This month it'll be $1,537 and if everything goes well in April and May it will be $3,000. I think $7,000 is enough to cover a heat pump installation if necessary, but IDK.

This of course assumes nothing major goes wrong before the end of the year.

root of all eval
Dec 28, 2002

SYSV Fanfic posted:

Already hosed up this week - blood dragon was on sale for $3.

Assuming you play it in 6-8 hours, the money:time works out pretty well. It's not like you opted for Far Cry 4 because it was 40% off.

Can I ask though, what is the income scenario with the fiance? $1560/mo is dramatically low for 2 earners. Is one/both of you a student? How does that play into monthly bills?

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SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

BossRighteous posted:

Assuming you play it in 6-8 hours, the money:time works out pretty well. It's not like you opted for Far Cry 4 because it was 40% off.

Can I ask though, what is the income scenario with the fiance? $1560/mo is dramatically low for 2 earners. Is one/both of you a student? How does that play into monthly bills?

I could make much, much more money, but I have serious health problems.

She makes about the same. .

We have separate personal finances. We have a joint account we contribute to rent, food, groceries, and currently the wedding. Other than that, I pay my expenses and she pays hers. Its a complicated situation with the rent/maintenance. It's hers, but during the recession she was unemployed for a time. The family trust bought it so she would have somewhere to live. Technically we are tenants, but two of the three trustees have to agree to toss her out. We pay enough to cover the expenses with a little left over to cover eventual maintenance. Despite being tenants, we are responsible for appliances/servicing the heat pump, etc. We live in a cheap market, and could get a nice apartment further out of the city, but she doesn't want to.

I was raised a poor. Being a poor I have pride and reverse snobbism. I'm extremely classist and her parents embody everything I detest about the upper crust. For some dumb reason they like me though. I can swallow my pride so she can continue to live in her condo, but I really, really don't ever want to go hat in hand to her parents.

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