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Al Harrington posted:The man looks like Jimmy Kimmel's retarded half-brother in every photo of him available, I seriously believe him to be borderline retarded. But that is a description of a man still too smart to just up an declare that the most significant foreign policy decision of his lifetime was breaking air traffic controllers. Even people who eat paste with a passion know the difference between over there and over here.
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Do Not Resuscitate posted:I believe it's a bit worse than that; he's incapable of giving an answer to a question that he hasn't prepped for in advance. A fact that his Republican opponents will exploit gleefully.
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Feb 28, 2015 23:08
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Gyges posted:But that is a description of a man still too smart to just up an declare that the most significant foreign policy decision of his lifetime was breaking air traffic controllers. Even people who eat paste with a passion know the difference between over there and over here. the mud slinging among all of the clown car occupants will be especially entertaining this time
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Feb 28, 2015 23:14
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Al Harrington posted:the mud slinging among all of the clown car occupants will be especially entertaining this time Yeah I can't wait for the presidential election to get into full swing for just that reason. The right has a massive crabs in a bucket problem right now and it's only going to get massively worse as the crazies try to out crazy each other and the more moderate options get destroyed by the crazies. All the tiniest blemishes are going to come out and they're all going to go over each other to find even the tiniest bit of dirt to turn into a mountain of poo poo. The tea party crazies want the biggest rear end in a top hat the right can produce but they're not going to tempt moderates or independents by putting somebody like Cruz up. At this point I'm pretty sure Romney is their best option and I highly doubt he's electable.
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Feb 28, 2015 23:18
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CPAC straw poll results. Keep in mind: the last time a person not named "Paul" or "Romney" won this thing was George Allen.
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Feb 28, 2015 23:24
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Joementum posted:CPAC straw poll results.
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Feb 28, 2015 23:28
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Is Rubio getting beat out by Santorum as eyebrow-raising as I think it is? He's had has-been status since, what, his SoTU address in 2013?
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Feb 28, 2015 23:31
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There were 3,007 total votes in the poll, so that's 129 for Santorum and 111 for Rubio. But really, don't read much into this. The Pauls win every year and also-rans and religious nuts do poorly. The person who did best was Walker, improving to 21% over last year's 7%. That's because the only reason this poll might matter is as a signal to other conservatives for who's hot right now, and (not surprising) it's Walker.
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Feb 28, 2015 23:33
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:He's had has-been status since, what, his SoTU address in 2013? He instantly became a RINO when he tried to do something on immigration.
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Feb 28, 2015 23:34
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bartlebyshop posted:How good at you at taking orders and giving speeches about the need to destroy the Hated Other? Yea. I guess the filter that prevents many from becoming a Republican governor is more closely related to morals than intellect. I wonder if Scott Walker likes turtles.
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Badger of Basra posted:He instantly became a RINO when he tried to do something on immigration. And his opposition to opening Cuban relations is jarring, thus ignored by the delegation in talks now.
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Mar 1, 2015 00:29
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I hate willfully stupid people a lot. As such I would never consider being a politician.
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Mar 1, 2015 00:52
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Seriously that list is embarrassing. I have no idea which of those losers is going to claw to the top. I would say Jeb since he's the only one that isn't a total joke but everyone seems to hate him a lot.
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By way of comparison, here's the 2011 results:
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Mar 1, 2015 01:19
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12 % other 13% undecided, goddamn welp it should be quite entertaining watching the debate between Hillary Clinton and Scott Walker
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Mar 1, 2015 01:22
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Joementum posted:By way of comparison, here's the 2011 results: So Scott Walker's the 2016 GOP Presidential candidate...?
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Mar 1, 2015 01:23
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I can see Ted Cruz getting the nomination before Scott Walker. Walker has zero ability to answer basic questions, and Wisconsin is loving imploding as a direct result of his policies. The minute an ounce of pressure gets put on him in the debates he's loving done.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I can see Ted Cruz getting the nomination before Scott Walker. Walker has zero ability to answer basic questions, and Wisconsin is loving imploding as a direct result of his policies. The minute an ounce of pressure gets put on him in the debates he's loving done. You're forgetting that the strategy du jour is that dodging questions from the liberal media means you have a backbone in crazy land.
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Mar 1, 2015 01:59
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Ted Cruz will never be the nominee because everyone in his own party hates him. He's the Newt Gingrich of this cycle.
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Joementum posted:Ted Cruz will never be the nominee because everyone in his own party hates him. He's the Newt Gingrich of this cycle. Leader (possibly) of the civilizing forces?
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Joementum posted:Ted Cruz will never be the nominee because everyone in his own party hates him. He's the Newt Gingrich of this cycle. The thing is, if you look at any of the Republicans, it seems like you can come up with some similar argument to disqualify them.
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OneTwentySix posted:The thing is, if you look at any of the Republicans, it seems like you can come up with some similar argument to disqualify them.
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OneTwentySix posted:The thing is, if you look at any of the Republicans, it seems like you can come up with some similar argument to disqualify them. Which is exactly the problem. Every possible choice they have is complete and utter garbage.
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Mar 1, 2015 02:29
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Joementum posted:Ted Cruz will never be the nominee because everyone in his own party hates him. He's the Newt Gingrich of this cycle. Cruz is going to be amazing to watch throughout this campaigning season. It's going to be great watching him get ignored for the nomination no matter what he does because they hate him so much.
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Mar 1, 2015 02:32
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Alkydere posted:Cruz is going to be amazing to watch throughout this campaigning season. It's going to be great watching him get ignored for the nomination no matter what he does because they hate him so much. Freepers *choral*: Goddamn the establishment RINOs conspiring to keep the only True Conservative in the primary from getting the nomination, they've just lost my vote forever! *continues voting Republican*
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Alkydere posted:Cruz is going to be amazing to watch throughout this campaigning season. It's going to be great watching him get ignored for the nomination no matter what he does because they hate him so much. Is there some sort of Ted Cruz Greatest Hits compilation I can read somewhere with explanations of what he did to earn the undying loathing of everyone?
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OneTwentySix posted:The thing is, if you look at any of the Republicans, it seems like you can come up with some similar argument to disqualify them. Yes, there's always a heresy to be found in a candidate. But this is the party that nominated a Mormon who invented Obamacare last time around, so they're willing to overlook quite a bit. What doesn't get overlooked is when you're just a massive rear end in a top hat to everyone who has to work with you because then everyone knows you'll betray them for your own gain, so they'll go sign up to support the campaign of someone more flexible.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Freepers *choral*: Goddamn the establishment RINOs conspiring to keep the only True Conservative in the primary from getting the nomination, they've just lost my vote forever! And if somehow Cruz does get the nomination, or become the frontrunner for some time, you know he'll find a way to self-destruct magnificently.
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bartlebyshop posted:Is there some sort of Ted Cruz Greatest Hits compilation I can read somewhere with explanations of what he did to earn the undying loathing of everyone? There's plenty out there, but just for a taste recall how his recent temper tantrum over not getting a vote on his pet "defund Obama's executive actions on imigration" bill allowed Harry Reid to get 11 additional Obama judicial nominees approved.
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Tomahawk posted:You're forgetting that the strategy du jour is that dodging questions from the liberal media means you have a backbone in crazy land. It's not the liberal media that he should be worried about. His latest disaster was from a softball from Club For Growth. If the other candidates start to support the narrative that he's dumb or unprepared, I think it'll stick in a hard way. Worse than Perry, too, because at least Perry is personable and went through some semblance of brand retooling.
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bartlebyshop posted:Is there some sort of Ted Cruz Greatest Hits compilation I can read somewhere with explanations of what he did to earn the undying loathing of everyone? Just Google "Ted Cruz" and I'm pretty sure the first hit will probably be on that list. His entire career has basically been summed up as "I am Ted Cruz and everybody else sucks." He throws a tantrum whenever he doesn't get his own way and is blatantly obviously a self-serving rear end that would throw a close political ally under the bus for any reason at all. He's a tea party darling and that's exactly the problem.
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bartlebyshop posted:Is there some sort of Ted Cruz Greatest Hits compilation I can read somewhere with explanations of what he did to earn the undying loathing of everyone? He actively tries to primary his colleagues. In 2014 he fundraised and campaigned for the Senate Conservatives Fund, which ran primary campaigns against Mitch McConnell, Lamar Alexander, Pat Roberts, Thad Cochran, and several other sitting Republican Senators.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:"I am Ted Cruz and everybody else sucks." So he's the Conservative Ted Rall?
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Captain_Maclaine posted:There's plenty out there, but just for a taste recall how his recent temper tantrum over not getting a vote on his pet "defund Obama's executive actions on imigration" bill allowed Harry Reid to get 11 additional Obama judicial nominees approved. Senate Dems find an unwitting ally in Ted Cruz
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I bet I could run against Walker, and be completely drunk as gently caress and still come out looking like a contender
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gnarlyhotep posted:I bet I could run against Walker, and be completely drunk as gently caress and still come out looking like a contender I bet you'd get your rear end kicked, Walker already beat two competent opponents in his gubernatorial elections and turned back a recall attempt.
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If I recall there were a lot of voters that didn't approve of him but just didn't think his actions necessitated a recall.
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baw posted:If I recall there were a lot of voters that didn't approve of him but just didn't think his actions necessitated a recall. 2014 wasn't a recall, though?
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Mar 1, 2015 03:30
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Yeah that was just referring to the recall. His opponent in 2014 was terrible
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Aliquid posted:It's not the liberal media that he should be worried about. His latest disaster was from a softball from Club For Growth. If the other candidates start to support the narrative that he's dumb or unprepared, I think it'll stick in a hard way. Worse than Perry, too, because at least Perry is personable and went through some semblance of brand retooling. On the other hand all Obama has to do is find the right way to say that he doesn't like Scott Walker and the guy is untouchable in the Republican primary. I'm sure Obama and the Clintons are currently strategizing over when and whom to come out against in order to assure the most clownish opponent for Hillary. Probably texting with Reed for tips too. If they thread the needle just right they'll be laughing their way through 2016's Cruz/Walker windmill tilt fest.
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