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Kugyou no Tenshi posted:gently caress any mass "collectible" production without any kind of purchase or distribution control, and double-gently caress people who buy things they don't want solely to sell them to other people at a markup. I had wanted to pick up the CE of a game recently, only to find out that it sold out before I got the e-mail letting me know preorders were up, and several hundred of them were up for sale on eBay the day the game was released, anywhere from 150% to 500% of the retail price. Some of the listings were parting out the edition to the point where you'd be paying over $500 for all the things that came in it, including one listing for $100 for the box. Scalpers are a cancer on the collectible market, and I really wish there were stronger unlicensed retail regulations (or that the ones that exist were enforced better). If I wanted to I could sell my Homeworld Remastered CE for over 300 usd. I got it for 100.
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:Skyrim is like a klepto-simulator. Its all about sucking up endless amounts of lesser soul gems and coins (32) and metal bars and everywhere you go you clean the place. Go through every bookcase. An infinite amount of everything, the game is like a cycle. fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 
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Kugyou no Tenshi posted:gently caress any mass "collectible" production without any kind of purchase or distribution control, and double-gently caress people who buy things they don't want solely to sell them to other people at a markup. I had wanted to pick up the CE of a game recently, only to find out that it sold out before I got the e-mail letting me know preorders were up, and several hundred of them were up for sale on eBay the day the game was released, anywhere from 150% to 500% of the retail price. Some of the listings were parting out the edition to the point where you'd be paying over $500 for all the things that came in it, including one listing for $100 for the box. Scalpers are a cancer on the collectible market, and I really wish there were stronger unlicensed retail regulations (or that the ones that exist were enforced better). I saw an article once about some one who spent something like 4000 dollars buying amiibos, not because he wanted them, but because he didn't like the idea of other people having them. It was specifically the blond haired/blue dress princess and her little star companion that he didn't want anyone to have, and he had no intention of using. There was a picture of his bed just covered in the drat things.
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Dragonball: Xenoverse is the DBZ game I've always wanted and I can't put it down. That being said, it has a lot of annoying quirks. Armor drops are MMO style RNG, so you can completely clean house on a mission and not get poo poo for it. The same applies to optional bosses, sometimes they show up sometimes they don't. Also having three teammates can get too hectic to tell whats going on. Especially when there's only one enemy, who ends up getting ping-ponged back and forth so much you can't get a lock on him. Speaking of which, the lock-on system is retarded and will frequently lose your target and there are portals in every level that it loves to switch to at the slightest provocation. So you'll be flying toward an enemy only to suddenly veer off to the left as the targeting system switches up. The beam attack system is also really awkward in my opinion. I'm constantly accidentally firing off the wrong special attack because of it, and using an ultimate attack tends to activate your "zoom forward really fast" movement ability by accident causing you to fark up your aim. The game is still baller as gently caress though.
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Lotish posted:I saw an article once about some one who spent something like 4000 dollars buying amiibos, not because he wanted them, but because he didn't like the idea of other people having them. It was specifically the blond haired/blue dress princess and her little star companion that he didn't want anyone to have, and he had no intention of using. There was a picture of his bed just covered in the drat things. http://www.destructoid.com/man-hate-buys-rosalina-luma-amiibo-in-bulk-so-fans-can-t-have-them-285999.phtml He also plans to buy other female figures so others can't. Why are nerds the worst?
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I hate this character so much I'm gonna spend 35,000 dollars completely loving filling my house with them My 35,000 dollars spent on this character surely will show Nintendo and fans of the character that this character is not marketable at all
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CJacobs posted:I hate this character so much I'm gonna spend 35,000 dollars completely loving filling my house with them If you look at his twitter, he has pictures of loving hundreds and hundreds of the non-common Amiibo. He has no plans to sell them, he just wants to hoard them so no one else can have them and so Nintendo can realize that these are bad characters even though he already gave them thousands upon thousands of dollars to have them.
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ChaosArgate posted:If you look at his twitter, he has pictures of loving hundreds and hundreds of the non-common Amiibo. He has no plans to sell them, he just wants to hoard them so no one else can have them and so Nintendo can realize that these are bad characters even though he already gave them thousands upon thousands of dollars to have them. post the pics
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Austrian mook posted:post the pics     
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poptart_fairy posted:ModernWarfare2Boycott.jpg Hey man. MW2 didn't have dedicated servers and was $60. That boycott was totally called for 
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Who What Now posted:"Beep Boop What Is Fun Must 100% Game In Most Efficient Way Possible Error Error Error Error " Jastiger posted:Why is Tiggum so dedicated to defending Skyrim? CJacobs posted:I'm just quoting this from the previous page for posterity's sake because a real person actually said that Len posted:Isn't Tiggum like legitimately autistic though? CJacobs posted:Hmm yes you are correct the "play however you want to play" aspect of open world video games is most certainly lovely and outdated definitely not still a facet of these games to this day as it was so lauded in the games in the series that came before Skyrim
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I don't think you understand the core of peoples' complaints about what happens in the quest chain. If they had you GO to the college and demonstrate your shouting skills for the guard to let you pass, that would be fine. That's what you have to do to get inside the college anyway whether you're joining or not. But the main quest requires that you become a member so that you can gain access to the NPC you need to talk to, which is not fine. In open world games there's a very thin line between railroading you because that's what your goals in the plot demand, and railroading you into being a part of unrelated events because said unrelated events stand in your way; the mages' college is only the most egregious example, Skyrim does that kind of thing all the drat time. They took the previous games (and Fallout) and put in the "main quest that takes you all 'round the game world" grand adventure, without doing any of the cleanup work to keep the main quest separate from steering you headlong into sidequests.
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CJacobs posted:I don't think you understand the core of peoples' complaints about what happens in the quest chain. If they had you GO to the college and demonstrate your shouting skills for the guard to let you pass, that would be fine. That's what you have to do to get inside the college anyway whether you're joining or not. But the main quest requires that you become a member so that you can gain access to the NPC you need to talk to, which is not fine. In open world games there's a very thin line between railroading you because that's what your goals in the plot demand, and railroading you into being a part of unrelated events because said unrelated events stand in your way; the mages' college is only the most egregious example, Skyrim does that kind of thing all the drat time. They took the previous games (and Fallout) and put in the "main quest that takes you all 'round the game world" grand adventure, without doing any of the cleanup work to keep the main quest separate from steering you headlong into sidequests. What gets me is that they did the exact same thing in Oblivion, and avoided this problem. You needed to go talk to a librarian in the Arcane University, but she spent most of her day in the lobby, which is open to everyone. It serves the purpose of introducing the bookworm mages to the main quest, both as entities in the story and as a hook to follow into its own questline if you're interested, without outright forcing you to take the bait. If you've made a mistake that even Oblivion avoided, you've hosed up royally.
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Tiggum just seems like an average goon tbh In every MGS game when they show Snake with a gun in a cutscene he always starts gameplay again with that weapon equipped. It's annoying because it will often replace your equipped gun, popping it back into your backpack. So you have to go through a few menus to put it back. I do no kill runs so I often don't realise they have replaced my tranq gun with a real gun until I blast some poor oval office in the head.
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CJacobs posted:I don't think you understand the core of peoples' complaints about what happens in the quest chain. If they had you GO to the college and demonstrate your shouting skills for the guard to let you pass, that would be fine. That's what you have to do to get inside the college anyway whether you're joining or not. But the main quest requires that you become a member so that you can gain access to the NPC you need to talk to, which is not fine. In open world games there's a very thin line between railroading you because that's what your goals in the plot demand, and railroading you into being a part of unrelated events because said unrelated events stand in your way; the mages' college is only the most egregious example, Skyrim does that kind of thing all the drat time. They took the previous games (and Fallout) and put in the "main quest that takes you all 'round the game world" grand adventure, without doing any of the cleanup work to keep the main quest separate from steering you headlong into sidequests. I agree that Skyrim does the railroading thing a lot, but this isn't the best example. All you have to do is find the guy who sends you after the scroll, which I did on my first playthrough before I got to that point in the main quest just because I explored a lot. It's not like you're cut off from it unless you join the college, it's just an extra optional step to make the player feel like they're doing some kind of investigation. If you're so hellbent on avoiding sidequests, look it up and skip that step. Septimus also lives really close to Winterhold's very easy to escape "jail" so it's not as hard to accidentally stumble across him as you might think. 
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Kugyou no Tenshi posted:gently caress any mass "collectible" production without any kind of purchase or distribution control, and double-gently caress people who buy things they don't want solely to sell them to other people at a markup. I had wanted to pick up the CE of a game recently, only to find out that it sold out before I got the e-mail letting me know preorders were up, and several hundred of them were up for sale on eBay the day the game was released, anywhere from 150% to 500% of the retail price. Some of the listings were parting out the edition to the point where you'd be paying over $500 for all the things that came in it, including one listing for $100 for the box. Scalpers are a cancer on the collectible market, and I really wish there were stronger unlicensed retail regulations (or that the ones that exist were enforced better). I saw some motherfucker with 8 Rosalina Amiibos which is a target exclusive and impossible to find(I actually don't have a target in my island), 40 bucks a piece, Little Mac which I also wanted? Might as well not exist, I've never seen, 60 on ebay. Its loving horrible, the main mario cast is falling off the shelves but everyone else vanishes before anyone gets there. And holy loving poo poo, those pictures.
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Just a reminder that this whole shitstorm started because Tiggum was insisting that 100% experiencing all the content in Skyrim with a single character is the only correct way to play, because that's Tiggum's gimmick.
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Anybody who cares about the Latest Nintendo Marketing Gimmick: Amiibo, are the ones contributing to the Problem.
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Len posted:http://www.destructoid.com/man-hate-buys-rosalina-luma-amiibo-in-bulk-so-fans-can-t-have-them-285999.phtml This poo poo annoys me because it's so similar to what happened to the Majora's Mask 3DS. The pre-orders were all gone within seconds. Literally seconds. Most of those went to people who just wanted to resell them. Then retailers continued to gently caress up ensuring that as few people who actually wanted to play their fancy new DS got it as they possibly could. Now there's hundreds of them on various internet reselling platforms that very few people are buying because not supporting this poo poo seems to be one of the few things nerds can generally agree on for once. Phobophilia posted:Anybody who cares about the Latest Nintendo Marketing Gimmick: Amiibo, are the ones contributing to the Problem. Some people just want some dumb toys, man. Not have to worry about going to specific stores and praying that shut-in nerds didn't take them all first because the people making them will literally never make another one again for no reason at all other than gently caress you. It's a bit of a drag when people do poo poo like that.
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Nuebot posted:Some people just want some dumb toys, man. Not have to worry about going to specific stores and praying that shut-in nerds didn't take them all first because the people making them will literally never make another one again for no reason at all other than gently caress you. It's a bit of a drag when people do poo poo like that. Artificial resource shortages are the loving worst.
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CJacobs posted:I don't think you understand the core of peoples' complaints about what happens in the quest chain. If they had you GO to the college and demonstrate your shouting skills for the guard to let you pass, that would be fine. That's what you have to do to get inside the college anyway whether you're joining or not. But the main quest requires that you become a member so that you can gain access to the NPC you need to talk to, which is not fine. DStecks posted:Just a reminder that this whole shitstorm started because Tiggum was insisting that 100% experiencing all the content in Skyrim with a single character is the only correct way to play (And according to Kimmalah you're all wrong anyway and joining the college isn't even mandatory to complete the main story, so you're doubly dumb)
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I love the Harvest Moon series, but I always hate how early game is basically just waiting around for things to happen.
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Tiggum posted:All I'm saying is that if you want to complete the main plot, and part of the main plot is "the protagonist joins the college" then you'll have to join the college, because that's part of the main plot, which you want to finish.
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I've seen several of these huge derails with multiple people furious at tiggum, and every time I just see him making these sort of vaguely disagreeable but not really very bad posts. Is there something about tiggum that I am missing or what. Also is there any actual in-game purpose to these amiibos or is this random controversy really just over ordinary figurines?
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Gestalt Intellect posted:Also is there any actual in-game purpose to these amiibos or is this random controversy really just over ordinary figurines? Amiibos do different things depending on which game you (can) use them in. For Smash Bros, it acts as an AI partner that learns as it plays. Wikipedia posted:Super Smash Bros. Amiibo figures can be used in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U to spawn computer-controlled characters to fight either alongside a player-controlled character, or against other CPU, player-controlled, or Amiibo-generated characters. With continued use, the Amiibo's corresponding character is able to level up and learn new abilities.[7][19] Super Mario series figurines, as well as their Smash Bros. counterparts, can be used in Mario Party 10 to store items that can be brought into the game.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Amiibos do different things depending on which game you (can) use them in. For Smash Bros, it acts as an AI partner that learns as it plays. My little brother has about 5 that he uses in Smash. They get smarter the more they're used - up to "lv.50", they actually get pretty blood thirsty from what I've seen. You can also feed them items to raise their stats. Speaking of Smash, I miss Smash Run. Or any form of an adventure mode. The gameplay actually works well for a decent side-scroller, beat 'em up and its a shame they haven't done anything with it in U.
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Gestalt Intellect posted:I've seen several of these huge derails with multiple people furious at tiggum, and every time I just see him making these sort of vaguely disagreeable but not really very bad posts. Is there something about tiggum that I am missing or what. Tiggum's general gimmick is "if you are not playing the game the way I do, you are wrong and any complaints you have stemming from that difference are wrong". Don't even get him started about people who want controller support in PC versions of games.
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scarycave posted:My little brother has about 5 that he uses in Smash. They get smarter the more they're used - up to "lv.50", they actually get pretty blood thirsty from what I've seen. Holy gently caress that's the most devious piece of dlc that I have ever seen.
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Many, many games have satisfying changes to side-quests depending on your actions, like Mass Effect, Alpha Protocol, Fallout 3 and the only game I've seen satisfyingly do it with the main quest is New Vegas, though the Witcher 2 did it quite well, too. So excusing Skyrim's complete lack of option with 'it's the plot' doesn't fly. It was really jarring coming from New Vegas to get obviously evil people saying 'do a horrible thing!' and my first instinct would be to gently caress them over. However, no such luck. In Skyrim, it's do it or don't do it.
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Phobophilia posted:Holy gently caress that's the most devious piece of dlc that I have ever seen. Calling it DLC is a little strong. They're just little figures that give a little bonus in games that support them. No game that uses Amiibo thus far makes them an integral part of the experience and they're handled so that every figure of one character has the same data as each other so you don't need a specific Link figure to train in Smash and also use for Hyrule Warriors. That said I think they make pretty great desk candy and decorative pieces and where the hell else am I going to find merchandise for Punch Out, F-Zero or Xenoblade.
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scarycave posted:Speaking of Smash, I miss Smash Run. Or any form of an adventure mode. The gameplay actually works well for a decent side-scroller, beat 'em up and its a shame they haven't done anything with it in U. When I finally got my tax return and bought my wii u I was so excited to get a fullscreen smash run and to use my DS as a second controller. Finding out I had to get extra controllers for anything not the basic smash mode AND that the smash run equivilent is a lovely gameboard with no sidescrolling just... ugh.
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BBJoey posted:Do you not comprehend that some people dislike this part of the main plot and hence have brought it up in this, the thread where you post about aspects of a game you dislike? 1: "I don't like that bit of the plot where the protagonist joins the college." 2: "I don't think the protagonist should have to join the college to progress the plot because it doesn't fit with the version of the character that exists entirely within my mind." The first statement is a reasonable complaint, it's a simple matter of opinion about which no one can be objectively right or wrong. The second statement is what people are saying in this thread. When you're "role-playing" your character in Skyrim and the plot demands that you do something to progress that "your character" wouldn't do, your character is incompatible with the plot. That's not a problem with the plot, it's a problem with how you're imagining the character, because the character (as written) does that, and it makes sense. Kugyou no Tenshi posted:Tiggum's general gimmick is "if you are not playing the game the way I do, you are wrong and any complaints you have stemming from that difference are wrong". Don't even get him started about people who want controller support in PC versions of games. Walton Simons posted:Many, many games have satisfying changes to side-quests depending on your actions, like Mass Effect, Alpha Protocol, Fallout 3 and the only game I've seen satisfyingly do it with the main quest is New Vegas, though the Witcher 2 did it quite well, too. So excusing Skyrim's complete lack of option with 'it's the plot' doesn't fly. It was really jarring coming from New Vegas to get obviously evil people saying 'do a horrible thing!' and my first instinct would be to gently caress them over. However, no such luck. In Skyrim, it's do it or don't do it.
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I'm not talking about the main quest, which I fully expected to be linear, but the side quests are mostly poor stories, boring to play and without even a cursory attempt at giving the player agency, which I personally find vital in RPGs. Every one I played was simply jumping through hoops to get Olaf's +1 sword of fuckery. The vast majority of side quests don't matter in the grand scheme of the main plot (though New Vegas was good at making them pay off later) so there's no excuse to not give some form of choice. e: Skyrim is obviously very popular so I won't try to ague that I'm objectively right, but this is the main reason I didn't really enjoy it, and it's not really something modders can fix. Walton Simons has a new favorite as of 14:47 on Mar 1, 2015 |
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Tiggum posted:Like that game Brothers, you can't play it without a controller. That means I won't play it, but I'm not going to tell anyone else they shouldn't or insist that it should have keyboard and mouse support. You can, actually. 
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Walton Simons posted:I'm not talking about the main quest, which I fully expected to be linear, but the side quests are mostly poor stories, boring to play and without even a cursory attempt at giving the player agency, which I personally find vital in RPGs. Every one I played was simply jumping through hoops to get Olaf's +1 sword of fuckery. Oh, well, I don't find them boring to play, but yeah, the characters and story are poo poo. But it's a video game, what do you expect? Even the games people single out as having amazing stories are almost always trite and formulaic, especially action games like Skyrim. And the games people praise as giving you choices and consequences are generally really shallow and pretty much everything just happens the way it was always going to regardless, just because having real choices and consequences would basically mean creating many times as much content, most of which very few people would ever even see. If you want a good story, read a book. If you want a game where your choices matter, play a pen-and-paper RPG with other people. Video games aren't really equipped to deliver either of those things. Jobbo_Fett posted:You can, actually. 
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