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This thread is a microcosm of Tony Abbott's career, rip
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Tasmantor posted:In Melbourne for work this week being subjected to KIIS101.1 it's truly something awful. Anyway going to be in Sandringham what's good eating? Boss Burger in Highett or Bocconcino's Pizza in Parkdale. Walk a few streets down and you can eat it at the beach. Its always quiet.
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 22:35 |
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SO I've never been to a goonmeet before and was vaguely worrying about how to identify the right people at the pub tomorrow, never having met any of you, by the general tone of this thread I'm looking for the people slapfighting each other, doling out purple nurples, and screaming "false flag, false flag!", right?
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 22:43 |
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Boy this thread is still bad. Muir wrote something about how we shouldn't just grind up young people to be used as a cheap pig slurry and rather aid them when they're unemployed and personally I agree. Muir continues to be pleasantly surprisingly one of the best members of parliament. Which isn't saying much but still.
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 22:52 |
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Seagull posted:Boy this thread is still bad. I don't feel as bad these days as I put him higher on the Senate vote than all of the right wing parties at the last election
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 22:59 |
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Anybody see Frynenbergs comments on how even if Abbott wrote the gettysburg address certain members would still hate him? That rear end is the intellectually laziest motherfucker. "Those guys in my party? Yup, enemies. They probably hate Australia too!" Another private school to politics pipeline success story. Josh Frydenberg rejects calls for royal commission into rogue financial advisers quote:Assistant treasurer Josh Frydenberg still sees no need for a royal commission into financial advisers despite the scandal that has rocked National Australia Bank. Child molester rejects calls for royal comission into child molestation by friends. SMILLENNIALSMILLEN fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Mar 1, 2015 |
# ? Mar 1, 2015 23:00 |
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I wonder if the Liberal party is still running the machine that churns out smarmy little smug tubby yuppies like Frydenberg and Jamie Briggs after their original prototype model Joe Hockey failed so catastrophically during mid-cycle deployment
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 23:20 |
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Labor has a policy of its own now and it's one I can get behindquote:The federal opposition has proposed a $1.9bn package targeting multinational tax avoidance, with most of the savings slated to come from changes to the amount of debt for which companies can claim deductions in Australia.
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 23:21 |
I find it funny that even after the current government grabbed power on the back of a policy-less campaign, and in a polling environment so utterly hostile to Abbott and the LNP, that Labor is still so inept as to release oppositional policies when the next election is so far away and there is no talk of a DD - current poll results affect the PM not the party in power. How the hell is Shorten so ineffectual that he is releasing policies now, even after he has seen the power of baseless attack dog opposition and tried to emulate the LNP in every other way he could? What a joke
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 23:26 |
I'm not saying its good to run a campaign without policies or they should continue trying to con the Aussie public, but Shorten's evil is just so bland and ineffectual. He is trying his hardest to play grown up villains but he just can't quite figure out how to keep from tripping on his cape
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 23:38 |
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Frogfingers posted:Boss Burger in Highett or Bocconcino's Pizza in Parkdale. Walk a few streets down and you can eat it at the beach. Its always quiet. My uncle used to have a fish shop on the central strip in Sandringham, and whenever I was down there the beach was practically empty.
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 23:38 |
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I think it's a pretty good direction personally. The Libs put an unpopular and unfair budget to a senate that resoundingly rejected it and they've spent the entire time since wringing their hands and shrugging, as if the "economic situation they were elected to fix" is no longer their problem. Labor throws up a policy popular with mostly everyone, punishing multinational tax evasion, and the government is left with the choice of either passing it and giving the appearance that they're unable to devise their own policy, or rejecting it and reinforcing the growing realisation amongst voters that the budget is pushing an agenda and not built upon the desperate necessity they originally alleged.
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 23:39 |
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$1.9 billion over three years seems like a really piddly amount, surely our lost revenue from corporate tax evasion would be orders of magnitude higher? E: Apple alone ripped off $9b over the course of a decade, for example. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-06/tax-expert-explains-how-apple-pays-193m-tax-on-27b-revenue/5303426 Fruity Gordo fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Mar 1, 2015 |
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cpaf posted:I think it's a pretty good direction personally. The Libs put an unpopular and unfair budget to a senate that resoundingly rejected it and they've spent the entire time since wringing their hands and shrugging, as if the "economic situation they were elected to fix" is no longer their problem. Labor throws up a policy popular with mostly everyone, punishing multinational tax evasion, and the government is left with the choice of either passing it and giving the appearance that they're unable to devise their own policy, or rejecting it and reinforcing the growing realisation amongst voters that the budget is pushing an agenda and not built upon the desperate necessity they originally alleged. That's true. I guess I'm just so skeptical of the potential for reform or intelligent decisions (even cynical campaign decisions) that I'm hesitant to attribute calculated strategy to Labour when shortsighted incompetence would suffice. If it is a strategic move, it would also coincide well with distracting from Labor's complicity in the imprisonment, rape, and torture of thousands of children.
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# ? Mar 1, 2015 23:51 |
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quote:Please ignore any threats or other violent suggestions, I'll retract them once my antipsychotics kick in.
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 00:02 |
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Breetai posted:SO I've never been to a goonmeet before and was vaguely worrying about how to identify the right people at the pub tomorrow, never having met any of you, by the general tone of this thread I'm looking for the people slapfighting each other, doling out purple nurples, and screaming "false flag, false flag!", right? Nuclear Spy posted:ADELAIDE GOONMEET
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 00:09 |
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Fruity Gordo posted:$1.9 billion over three years seems like a really piddly amount, surely our lost revenue from corporate tax evasion would be orders of magnitude higher? "1 billion" is still a number which resonates with people, while the relative smallness of that number means that the captains of industry won't all line up to bag Shorten. But yes, it is a very small part of the problem.
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 00:24 |
We have brought these giants of industry to their knees as justice for their many cri- well, part of the settlement is that they aren't admitting to any crimes, and we are actually waiving any claim to pursue compensation for any acts of theirs past or future, but just take a look at this cheque for one HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARYDOOS and tell me daddy didn't bring home the bacon! Now just let me take it down to the track, I got a tip from my mate and there's no way this dog can lose. I'll triple it easy and that'll go halfway to paying your first semester of uni
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Fruity Gordo posted:$1.9 billion over three years seems like a really piddly amount, surely our lost revenue from corporate tax evasion would be orders of magnitude higher? I might've misread it, but I took it to mean that they were devoting $1.9b to fixing the problem. Which, granted, doesn't actually make much sense to me; investigating the problem and potential solutions would probably not require that amount of money into it.
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Cleretic posted:I might've misread it, but I took it to mean that they were devoting $1.9b to fixing the problem. Which, granted, doesn't actually make much sense to me; investigating the problem and potential solutions would probably not require that amount of money into it. quote:The opposition said the Parliamentary Budget Office had assessed the measures as bringing in $1.9bn in revenue over three years from July. Fruity Gordo posted:$1.9 billion over three years seems like a really piddly amount, surely our lost revenue from corporate tax evasion would be orders of magnitude higher? Apple had 9B of profit so there's "only" potentially 3B of tax revenue there. There are also limits to what one country can do alone.
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 00:42 |
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Yeah I don't remember retracting any threats. Whoever keeps buying me these is really dedicated to ableism tho, it's adorable. Fruity Gordo fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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The policy is definitely supposed to recoup/earn/raise/tax the $1.9bn to the benefit of the government. Like Birdstrike said, that is a large number to the public, but it also probably isn't a number that will provoke a knee-jerk defensive reaction from said multinationals like say, the MRRT did. Google and Apple et al have basically come out and said they have been operating within the law as if they have a leisurely attitude to this whole thing, so in the interests of public image you probably won't see Larry Page rattling his jewellery on the back of a ute in protest.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Apple had 9B of profit so there's "only" potentially 3B of tax revenue there. Its not just Apple doing it, but the question is finding the right balance between pursuing our taxation rights and having them decide its cheaper to not operate here at all. Which is hard to imagine given how much money there is to make off the Aussie market. Its not that they can't afford the taxes, there is just no incentive to pay them and they can lobby to keep not paying them
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 00:51 |
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Breetai posted:SO I've never been to a goonmeet before and was vaguely worrying about how to identify the right people at the pub tomorrow, never having met any of you, by the general tone of this thread I'm looking for the people slapfighting each other, doling out purple nurples, and screaming "false flag, false flag!", right? Don't worry, you'll know... you'll know. Have you seen a nerd before? It's a group of nerds. Pudgy, awkward (both socially and from meeting strangers on the internet), a little unkempt, somewhat less fashion sense and talking about video games out loud. You'll be right, and maybe pm or post in the thread if you are lost
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 00:55 |
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Apple, Microsoft and Google will just raise their Australia tax to compensate
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:Its not just Apple doing it, but the question is finding the right balance between pursuing our taxation rights and having them decide its cheaper to not operate here at all. Which is hard to imagine given how much money there is to make off the Aussie market. Its not that they can't afford the taxes, there is just no incentive to pay them and they can lobby to keep not paying them Also, these tech companies lower their profitability in Australia by shifting R&D costs here (and other high cost jurisdictions). The Applie subsidiary that sells iPads etc to Apple Australia charges far more than the actual bill of materials and labour costs, ostensibly to recoup R&D. It has the nice side effect of making US sales operations appear more profitable too.
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 01:08 |
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If you have iMessage you can iMessage Senator Brandis at senator.brandis@aph.gov.au it is very real and very amazing
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 01:35 |
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Check out the name of the new UK thread.
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IslamoNazi posted:If you have iMessage you can iMessage Senator Brandis at senator.brandis@aph.gov.au it is very real and very amazing I hope that isn't you mangling those apostrophes.
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 01:47 |
Penny Wong has started a censure motion against the extremely intelligent George Brandis. hope this happens, Lambie isn't impressed with his performance and laying the boot in
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 01:58 |
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Tokamak posted:Don't worry, you'll know... you'll know. I remember one Melbourne goonmeet. One goon awkwardly shuffled up and asked 'Is this the SA Goonmeet?'. 'Nah we're from Reddit' He was out of there so fast we didnt even get to call him back.
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 02:02 |
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why is everyone in the news treating the new polling data as being good news for abbott. it's good new for the liberal party, sure, but they're only getting a boost because people are expecting and want turnbull to be leader; they seem the lnp moving in that direction and they approve. abbott's still coming in 3rd as preferred pm behind turnbull.
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 02:07 |
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Baird and Co just can't stop lying for their election publicity. My favourite one is the anti Labor scare scare campaign. "They will be fighting dirty" (etc.) Excuse me but without painting the Labor party as blameless isn't it always the LNP getting caught for these sort of things every election? Finally heard one good come back question when Troy Grant (Dep. Premier and Nationals buffoon) said that not privatising the grid in regional areas was a massive win for the bush. He was asked "Doesn't this mean it is a massive loss for the cities?" Magic wanded that away and ploughed on continuing to blame Labor for everything. Mathius Corman kept talking about Labor's "trajectory" to unsustainable debt. I really wanted the interviewer (Fran 'Journalism is a second language' Kelly) to ask how Labor's trajectory differed from the LNP under Howard. She didn't. Arsetralian posted:2 Mar 2015 The Australian SARAH MARTIN It is no secret that there are enormous needs for relevant services in remote communities. Rather than fund real jobs to provide those services (and where necessary pay for appropriate people to undergoing relevant training), we have this sort of bullshit spilling ungoverned from the mouth of yet another white ninny. Ffs. Muppet Government.
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 02:12 |
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Jonah Galtberg posted:I hope that isn't you mangling those apostrophes. Rest assured that I don't have an iPhone
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Tokamak posted:Don't worry, you'll know... you'll know. Post in the thread asking where everyone is while standing directly behind the most recognisable goon in said thread.
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 02:17 |
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So excited for the goon meet tomorrow, I've given my favourite dragon shirt its yearly wash.
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 02:22 |
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Excuse me Cliev wtf are you doing?quote:The Palmer United Party's two senators, Glenn Lazarus and Dio Wang, will abstain from voting on government legislation indefinitely, according to party leader Clive Palmer. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/palmer-united-party-senators-to-abstain-from-voting-clive-palmer-20150302-13sfnt.html
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# ? Mar 2, 2015 02:23 |
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Devine's not a journalist. She writes opinion pieces.
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Mr Chips posted:Devine's not a journalist. She writes opinion pieces. She's quite happy to call herself a journalist though.
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