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jre posted:I curious how quoting something embarrassing you just said is a straw man ? Are you claiming you weren't implying anyone who didn't like the Union flag was mental ? I've not 'implied' anything. I've said several times now that I don't think the vast majority of Scottish people would get upset at the sight of a Union Jack. The straw man is you concluding from that that I think everyone who disagrees with me is mental. Do you need anything else explaining? mediadave posted:I've never heard the phrase 'butcher's apron' in the wild. Me neither.
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Pissflaps posted:Based on the fact that Scottish people are no more mental than anyone else and the vast majority there, just like in England, wouldn't get upset if they saw a UK flag. He's the only TV chef I've seen tell people that having a really sharp knife is how you stop onions hurting your eyes
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Jose posted:He's the only TV chef I've seen tell people that having a really sharp knife is how you stop onions hurting your eyes Hmm maybe I'll give him another chance then?
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Mar 1, 2015 21:53
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Pissflaps posted:Hmm maybe I'll give him another chance then? You should and if you still don't like him then just don't watch him
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Jose posted:You should and if you still don't like him then just don't watch him You're a vicious bastard, Jose.
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Mar 1, 2015 21:55
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Pissflaps posted:Do you need anything else explaining? Pissflaps posted:Based on the fact that Scottish people are no more mental than anyone else and the vast majority there, just like in England, wouldn't get upset if they saw a UK flag. Could explain why how mental or otherwise Scottish people are is relevant to their dislike of a national flag ?
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Mar 1, 2015 21:56
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jre posted:Could explain why how mental or otherwise Scottish people are is relevant to their dislike of a national flag ? Are you pretending to be taking my use of the word 'mental' at face value as a description of somebody with a mental illness? If so, I apologise because I was using it merely as a colloquial term to indicate that they are slightly nutty. Off their rocker. Unhinged. Touched in the head. And yes, somebody who gets ranty at the sight of the British flag, or the EU flag, is probably all these things. I apologise if my use of the word 'mental' has caused you distress and I will endeavour to avoid it in future.
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Mar 1, 2015 21:58
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There is a but of a difference, I'd wager, between a Union Jack, which has stood for and represented vicious murder and oppression, and arguably genocide, and an EU flag.
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Mar 1, 2015 22:12
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Tell that to Greece.
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Mar 1, 2015 22:14
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Coohoolin posted:There is a but of a difference, I'd wager, between a Union Jack, which has stood for and represented vicious murder and oppression, and arguably genocide, and an EU flag. Pretty much every flag in Europe has at some point stood for these things to some people, I never buy into this obsession with self-hatred for things no-one alive today, and certainly no-one in the thread had any part in or control over.
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Mar 1, 2015 22:14
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Pissflaps posted:I just don't like his demeanour. He leaves his jumper on when he has sex.
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Mar 1, 2015 22:19
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stickyfngrdboy posted:He leaves his jumper on when he has sex. How do you know this ?
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Mar 1, 2015 22:20
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Tiran Dirth posted:Pretty much every flag in Europe has at some point stood for these things to some people, I never buy into this obsession with self-hatred for things no-one alive today, and certainly no-one in the thread had any part in or control over. Who's talking about self-hatred? We're discussing negative connotations of the Union Jack, in many ways a relic of empire (and a pervasive symbol of Empire in the Hardt and Negri sense), and someone brought up the EU flag as a comparison. We're not discussing other European flags, just how the Union Jack symbolizes some very very nasty things to many people, in many cases well within modern memory. Anti-Catholic discrimination was still very much an active thing into the 60s, I'm not just talking about Indian famines. However, if we do want to talk about self-hatred, it does seem to me very often that some quarters of the UK population buy into the myth of the British Empire as a force for good far more than happens in other European countries. Like, Germans and Italians and the like generally seem to be more "self-hating" if that's how you want to put it. Just my experience though, and probably limited.
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Also, ive never heard the term butchers apron wrt the union jack and I'm a butcher!
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Also, ive never heard the term butchers apron wrt the union jack and I'm a butcher! Why can't I find any decent veal in this country? Is it a cultural thing or some weird medical reason?
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Mar 1, 2015 22:21
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Pissflaps posted:How do you know this ? He went out with one of my exes for a whole and every time they had sex he refused to take his jumper off
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Mar 1, 2015 22:22
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stickyfngrdboy posted:He went out with one of my exes for a whole and every time they had sex he refused to take his jumper off If you're making this up I'm going to be cross. Coohoolin posted:Why can't I find any decent veal in this country? Is it a cultural thing or some weird medical reason? Because we don't enjoy eating tortured baby cows.
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Mar 1, 2015 22:23
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stickyfngrdboy posted:He leaves his jumper on when he has sex. I heard he does it with a cowboy hat and his socks on, to emphasise his nakedness.
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Mar 1, 2015 22:24
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Coohoolin posted:Why can't I find any decent veal in this country? Is it a cultural thing or some weird medical reason? If you're talking about Scotland, there is definitely good veal available. Ask a butcher for rose veal, as local as he can provide. Veal is a great product, but it still has a horrible reputation in Britain because of the way veal calves were raised and transported, two or three decades ago.
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Pissflaps posted:If you're making this up I'm going to be cross. Im not making it up, promise. We don't torture baby cows any more and if you consume dairy products you should also eat veal.
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Mar 1, 2015 22:26
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stickyfngrdboy posted:We don't torture baby cows any more and if you consume dairy products you should also eat veal. I'm a massive hypocrite though?
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Mar 1, 2015 22:27
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Pissflaps posted:I'm a massive hypocrite though? Fair enough.
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Mar 1, 2015 22:27
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why don't butchers stock hogget leeds dad
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Mar 1, 2015 22:27
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I've been making saltimbocca and cordon bleu with pork for years, just because I never saw veal in the shops. Rose veal, eh? I'll be sure to give that a go, thanks for the tip.
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Mar 1, 2015 22:28
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He keeps his jumper on.
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Mar 1, 2015 22:29
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Tizer and Vimto are both far nicer than Irn Bru imo
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Mar 1, 2015 22:31
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lol if you dont only consume red cola
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Mar 1, 2015 22:34
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i have no teeth
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Mar 1, 2015 22:34
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Jose posted:why don't butchers stock hogget leeds dad Some do but it's a hard sell. Lamb is expensive and it's hard to encourage a farmer to let his lamb stock get old enough for hogget when most of his yearly income will be spring lamb. Hogget is nicer than lamb but has a funny name.
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Mar 1, 2015 22:35
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What's hogget?
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Mar 1, 2015 22:37
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Pissflaps posted:What's hogget? Two year old sheep (really between one and two but most producers don't call it that until two). Also the first shear is called hogget as well.
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Mar 1, 2015 22:41
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stickyfngrdboy posted:He went out with one of my exes for a whole and every time they had sex he refused to take his jumper off That is possibly more disturbing than the Mellor story
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baronvonsabre posted:Oh really? Does this really need explaining to you?
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serious gaylord posted:Does this really need explaining to you? No, but I'm sure your explanation would be the single most patronising post in SA's entire history and who am I to deny you that accolade? Go for it 
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Mar 2, 2015 00:32
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Its a joke about Coohoolin because hes said he's going to be voting SNP but campaign for another political party.
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Mar 2, 2015 00:46
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It's not my fault basic socialist theory goes right over your head.
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Mar 2, 2015 00:47
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Is that what you say to the customers in your bar?
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Mar 2, 2015 00:50
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Coohoolin posted:It's not my fault basic socialist theory goes right over your head. If basic socialist theory involves being a hollow shell lacking all conviction, you're welcome to it.
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Mar 2, 2015 00:55
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Hmm yes party politics is the be-all and end-all of socialism. Jesus.
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What's the point of having the whole "Funded by the UK government" to begin with? Do they think people are going to be more patriotic that it's funded by a bunch of cunts?
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