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Why are all the wall supports on the outside? Seems likely that a horde could tripping over them and bring it down by accident.
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It's symbolic. The real threat is inside the camp.
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Mar 2, 2015 15:35
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I think for Rick to go full blown Governor would have to involve Carl dying. Maybe they will get rid of Carl at some point since the actor is probably going to age faster than the show if they don't put in some time jumps.
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Mar 2, 2015 16:16
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What is it with this show it throws out 2 massive duds and then straight into 2 really good episodes. Glenn and co have seen just how wildly unprepared the town's people are. While Rick and Carol are actively plotting to take the place (and Daryl I guess?) How many episodes do we think this going to take 3?
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Mar 2, 2015 16:22
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JoylessJester posted:What is it with this show it throws out 2 massive duds and then straight into 2 really good episodes. I think the writers just aren't that great at pacing and mixing development with action. Obviously, we need to see the characters be introspective and reflective sometimes, but they tend to cram it all into an episode or two to "get it over with" rather than interspersing it. Also, I'm guessing the poo poo is going to start hitting the fan halfway through next week's episode. The Alexandria people seem like they've mostly just been incredibly lucky, but they're crediting themselves for their general good fortune thus far.
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Mar 2, 2015 16:37
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Slight spoilers I guess but the finale for this season title is "Conquer" . So I think that gives a bit of a hint at whats coming.
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Bulkiest Toaster posted:Slight spoilers I guess but the finale for this season title is "Conquer" . So I think that gives a bit of a hint at whats coming. But will it be Rick, or...
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Mar 2, 2015 16:42
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I think Rick was simply saying that they can get these people up to shape and make this community work but that ultimately if more assholes like the almost-lieutenant are in charge the three of them could easily put them in their place probably without having to murder anyone. It's in no one's interest to start shooting up old ladies to coerce the rest of the population from passively resisting against the coup by refusing to work. No way Rick's group could keep the water and electricity running, why give up a good thing? Besides I doubt anyone in the group apart from Carol and Daryl would go along with an overly violent takeover.
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Mar 2, 2015 16:45
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Apparently the finale will also be an extended episode with a 90 minute timeslot.
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Mar 2, 2015 16:55
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Loved Carol in this episode. She started the meek housewife act immediately. You could see it in the way that she turned over her guns, acting almost like they were just props for her and she wasn't comfortable handling them. It seemed odd to me until her interview. It's brilliant on her part. I'm also convinced that the girl has Rick's blender pistol. She was apparently in that area when Carl was following her so I'm betting she saw Rick stash it. The spy theory is interesting.
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Mar 2, 2015 17:01
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Rick is an rear end in a top hat and an idiot, he was pretty much already given the authority to try to shape things up and turn Alexandria into a more secure and long lasting community and he's only been there for a day, of course for him this is just further indication that the Alexandrians are too timid and soft and that instead of using the power he was given to work with their leadership he thinks should stage a coup. And Kirkman and co just expect us to side with Rick and his zealous followers.
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Mar 2, 2015 17:01
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I assume they just didn't show Rick explaining to the Congresswoman: 1) Everyone has the zombie disease and will turn when they die. So you have to be careful (and armed) even inside the compound? 2) You really need to watch the walls, run patrols. Since there are massive zombie hoards around, and groups of assholes with loving TANKS that you have to be ready for, so again, not a good idea to store away guns.
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Mar 2, 2015 17:03
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I loved this episode's nod to the comic's ridiculous last-page cliffhangers. If Rick entirely dismisses a coup in next week's cold opening, it'll be the most true-to-comics thing they could do.
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Mar 2, 2015 17:11
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A lot of people were saying Daryl doesn't trust the group, but it feels like Daryl is thinking if they do go back to being a normal group, Daryl won't have a place anymore. The group always needed Daryl, whether it be because of his tracking skills or ability to hunt and gather food. Now they are in a community, Daryl doesn't really have much to offer the group. I got some really Governor resembling vibes from Rick at the end there too.
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Mar 2, 2015 17:22
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Daryl is secretly afraid that if the plot realigns with the comics he won't get any screentime.
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Mar 2, 2015 17:24
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TMMadman posted:Why is still gimpy Noah on a scavenging run? Noah continually manages to outrun everyone with his hobble sprint.
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dwarkanath posted:A lot of people were saying Daryl doesn't trust the group, but it feels like Daryl is thinking if they do go back to being a normal group, Daryl won't have a place anymore. The group always needed Daryl, whether it be because of his tracking skills or ability to hunt and gather food. Now they are in a community, Daryl doesn't really have much to offer the group. Well, he still had a lot to do at the prison. They haven't shown us much of Alexandria yet in terms of food and supplies (other than ROTC Douchebag playing with some walkers in the woods like a moron), so there's still potential for him (but it wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't like the idea of being given a "job" by some random woman they just met). I feel like it's also that Daryl, like pretty much everyone at this point, is feeling worn down by all they've been through. He seems afraid to relax and embrace any of the comforts they're being exposed to because they never seem to last, and he doesn't want to go through missing them all over again when the inevitable happens and they end up back out on the road. It's like he's pretending that the showers and beds and non-scavenged food don't exist.
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Mar 2, 2015 17:33
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It felt really un-characteristic and out-of-place when Rick said that if necessary, they would take over the town. Then they coupled that with the previous lines from his interview, with him saying that they shouldn't let dangerous people in this town and everything those dangerous people do is about survival. Like, the writers are trying to make Rick's gang be the bad guys.... I know that nobody is really "good" in this world anymore, but they've never aggressively tried to take over a place just because, have they?
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Mar 2, 2015 17:39
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"Well, they just gave me the keys to the town, and after all I am an rear end in a top hat..."
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Mar 2, 2015 17:41
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I like that Daryl still hasn't showered. I mean it's been days and he looks like he's been working in a coal mine. Good poo poo.
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Mar 2, 2015 17:41
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The lady in charge was putting a lot of emphasis on who people were before the world ended, and with Daryl he wasn't anything. He was a drifter hanging out with his loser brother. He only became a good man as a result of having to struggle to survive.
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Crows Turn Off posted:It felt really un-characteristic and out-of-place when Rick said that if necessary, they would take over the town. Then they coupled that with the previous lines from his interview, with him saying that they shouldn't let dangerous people in this town and everything those dangerous people do is about survival. I think Rick meant "take over" as in "take over leadership and run it right" not like "murder everyone, now it's ours because CLAIMED." Daryl had his first almost smile of the episode after he said it, though.
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Mar 2, 2015 17:51
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So I wonder who took Rick's pistol he stashed in the outside house? Was someone watching him when he stashed it?
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Mar 2, 2015 18:31
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I think knowing what happens in the comics and reading this thread's predictions for what is going to happen is one of the most entertaining things.
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Easychair Bootson posted:Loved Carol in this episode. She started the meek housewife act immediately. You could see it in the way that she turned over her guns, acting almost like they were just props for her and she wasn't comfortable handling them. It seemed odd to me until her interview. It's brilliant on her part. On rewatch, this really is the best thing in the episode. Carol immediately gets defensive and makes a show of being helpless, when she's probably the biggest badass in the group.
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This was a really great episode. The paranoia, lying, not knowing what to do, all of that made for some great clever moments.Easychair Bootson posted:Loved Carol in this episode. She started the meek housewife act immediately. You could see it in the way that she turned over her guns, acting almost like they were just props for her and she wasn't comfortable handling them. It seemed odd to me until her interview. It's brilliant on her part. Her interview was the best part to me. When she lies about her dead husband, that was brilliant.
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Dantu posted:The place they have is self-sufficient for the most part, if not totally. I think their "runs" have been little more than adventure tourism up to this point, and they haven't even pulled that off without losing people. That's a pretty good point. Since they'd mentioned their radius had gotten out to like, 50+ miles (if I remember the dialogue correctly), I figured they'd been at it a while. Or at least learned 'don't tease the zombies, guys'. And the guy really nailed 'entitled guy that thinks he knows what's up, gets pissed when faced with actual competence'. E: I saw somewhere that Scott Ian played a walker. I'm guessing he was one of the ones that attacked Rick and Carl? LadyPictureShow fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Mar 2, 2015 19:12
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ROTC douche was muzzle sweepin all over the place, I wanted to punch him just for that.
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Nihonniboku posted:What I gathered is that those walls are generally more enough. Have they never run into a human group? Both Carl and Quiet Girl (no idea what her name is) both figured out how to crack their security in about 20 seconds. Then who's defending the place? 2 armed morons and that's it. They just never ran into bad people before?
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Mar 2, 2015 19:37
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Blazing Ownager posted:Have they never run into a human group? she says it in the interview. Northern Virginia was evacuated. It's not too hard to believe. Rick's group is unique in that they are nomadic and moderately stable. Most groups seem to have found a place to hole up into and dug in or are nomadic and die. GrAviTy84 fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Mar 2, 2015 19:44
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Where in the hell would you evacuate all of NoVa? I feel like Rick should have questioned that more.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:46
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The entire rest of the show will be Andy Griffith but with zombies.
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Mar 2, 2015 20:00
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Im gonna need a better explanation on how Captain Janeway and her son have held that plush community for 2 years or so.
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Mar 2, 2015 20:01
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I really wish we had gotten to see Eugene's interview.
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These guys seem way too sawft to have resisted the roving bands of rednecks that would have taken their poo poo the minute they saw those walls.boom boom boom posted:I really wish we had gotten to see Eugene's interview. Yeah I hope this is still on the table.
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boom boom boom posted:I really wish we had gotten to see Eugene's interview. Why do they always leave out the most amazing things...
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moist turtleneck posted:Where in the hell would you evacuate all of NoVa? I feel like Rick should have questioned that more. That's what I'm wondering too. Also why would you evacuate everyone? Does this mean the outbreak started in that area?
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Mar 2, 2015 20:20
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Easychair Bootson posted:Loved Carol in this episode. She started the meek housewife act immediately. You could see it in the way that she turned over her guns, acting almost like they were just props for her and she wasn't comfortable handling them. It seemed odd to me until her interview. It's brilliant on her part. The conclusion my Mom jumped to after I talked to her about it last night was that she thinks the immediate area has camera coverage and Captain Janeway seen him stash the gun there. I'm on Easychair's boat, I think the teenager has the gun. Also ROTC guy was a great character because he's custom made to suck as much as possible so you cheer when bad things happen to him. Everything about him makes you want to punch him (ROTC rear end in a top hat, zombie revenge, no trigger/muzzle discipline, HAY GUYS WE GOT SOME GREAT HARDWARE *totes around an assault rifle after handing the new guys dinky pistols that aren't even their normal weapons*) and it's such a victory when it actually happens.
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Mar 2, 2015 20:28
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TMMadman posted:That's what I'm wondering too. Also why would you evacuate everyone? Does this mean the outbreak started in that area? Yeah, I hope we get a better explanation for this pretty soon, because right now it seems very deus ex machina. The only thing I can think of is they were actively trying to get people away from DC so they wouldn't flood the Capitol looking for help and shelter (though despite DC having all the bunkers and whatnot, you'd think they'd get all the government people out to Mount Weather or something).
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