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William Bear posted:Jihadi John or ISIS's leader al-Bagdhadi haven't been built up as "THE ULTIMATE BAD GUY" the way Bin Laden was. Such a move could be seen as Democrats making them out to be bigger villains than they really were. I dunno, from what I've seen from mainstream media outlets like CNN lately, they've been building up ISIS a lot, particularly this "Jihad John" guy.
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QwertyAsher posted:He's dumb, but he doesn't strike me as particularly assertive or stalwart in the face of adversity. I figure he'll hang on until super tuesday, see his pittance, and go home. I think Rubio will bow out early once it's clear he's going nowhere, but Jeb will stay in (because he's probably got the best chances) as will Cruz (because he's a narcissistic rear end in a top hat).
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Mar 2, 2015 23:15
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:There is no possible scenario that could lead to the Democrats taking back the House in 2016. Sorry. I don't have any expectations of that happening or even any significant gains being made prior to 2020. I'm looking at the possibility of maybe the Senate, some small gains in the House based on coattails, and the GOP just going apeshit while Hillary spends an hour on the television daily scolding them like the bratty losers they have been.
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Mar 2, 2015 23:20
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I think Rubio will bow out early once it's clear he's going nowhere, but Jeb will stay in (because he's probably got the best chances) as will Cruz (because he's a narcissistic rear end in a top hat). 
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Mar 2, 2015 23:30
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I think Rubio will bow out early once it's clear he's going nowhere, but Jeb will stay in (because he's probably got the best chances) as will Cruz (because he's a narcissistic rear end in a top hat).
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FilthyImp posted:I'd like to see Cruz attempt a brokered convention, then go off and run TEA as a thirdparty. I'd buy a lot of popcorn if that were to happen Me too. It'd put the Paulshevik's insurrection-attempt in 2012 in the shade. SpiderHyphenMan posted:Jeb has the best chance to win the nomination but Marco Rubio is the only one who would have a genuine shot at winning the General. Rubio's a dead letter in the primary as long as immigration remains a key issue with the party, which will remain the case as long as Obama's executive actions and position on DREAM stand.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Rubio's a dead letter in the primary as long as immigration remains a key issue with the party, which will remain the case as long as Obama's executive actions and position on DREAM stand.
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Mar 2, 2015 23:45
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:On the other hand, Jeb Bush could very well implode, and then it would be between Rubio and Cruz. If that happened early enough, I suspect more of the nuts, kooks, and also-rans would become more viable, if only as the only Adult in the Room had departed.
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Mar 2, 2015 23:46
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One thing that's going to suck no matter who wins the election: we'll be missing out on some of the goofier POTUS actions as of late (Turnip for what, Selfie Sticks, YoLo), because the winner will go back to being some old-rear end remnant from the 50s.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:If that happened early enough, I suspect more of the nuts, kooks, and also-rans would become more viable, if only as the only Adult in the Room had departed. Jeb Bush is unelectable, barring catastrophe like a terrorist attack.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:On the other hand, Jeb Bush could very well implode, and then it would be between Rubio and Cruz. I find it completely impossible to fathom that a third bush could get elected. THere is no way that America would even consider the brother of the most disastrous president in most people 35 and unders life. Right? 
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:And Rubio would trounce all of them by virtue of being the only electable one. Which he still is. Even if Jeb drops, I don't see how Rubio could scrounge enough support to fend off attacks from Cruz et al on immigration, particularly if the GOP continues its current temper tantrum on that front. Ramadu posted:I find it completely impossible to fathom that a third bush could get elected. THere is no way that America would even consider the brother of the most disastrous president in most people 35 and unders life. Right? Oh you sweet, innocent fool. I mean yeah, I doubt Jeb has a chance, but then again the GOP crashed the government and then retook the Senate despite that and other enormities. Past horrendous disasters don't always taint as much as they ought. Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:This is Hillary's race to lose and that will be the case for the next 20 months. Thanks to Martha Coakley, this is now the sort of statement that worries me.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I mean yeah, I doubt Jeb has a chance, but then again the GOP crashed the government and then retook the Senate despite that and other enormities. Past horrendous disasters don't always taint as much as they ought.
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I would fuckin' die laughing if Rubio really did get run over with immigration by an immigrant who came over and shut the gov't off.
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GalacticAcid posted:Senator Mikulski (D-MD) will not be seeking reelection. Too bad, the dems really could use a ready for prime time, clean suit to offer at least a token, Bill Bradley level, competition to Hillary.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Even if Jeb drops, I don't see how Rubio could scrounge enough support to fend off attacks from Cruz et al on immigration, particularly if the GOP continues its current temper tantrum on that front. As for Walker, I'll say it again: the objective fact that his policies in Wisconsin have failed, and that he has absolutely zero political rhetorical skills to defend them with, make him not just unelectable, but toxic. His governorship is a direct challenge to the old maxim that conservatism cannot fail, it can only be failed. Thus Scott Walker will be portrayed by people on all sides of the spectrum as a failure of a political leader. I honestly believe he's going to lose re-election in 2016. Everyone else is already a joke. Captain_Maclaine posted:Oh you sweet, innocent fool. 1. Hillary is a competent politician and can control a narrative. 2. There is nothing that would get young people out to vote more than the possibility of a third Bush. 3. Centrist view in America concerning Congrss consists of "BOTH SIDES ARE DUMB IDIOTS WHO NEED TO STOP FIGHTING OVER EVERYTHING AND LEARN TO COMPROMISE" Centrist view in America concerning Bush is "national embarrassment keep him the gently caress away from government" A third Bush is an impossibility. If the GOP had any brains at all they'd put ZERO money behind Jeb and find someone actually electable.
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GalacticAcid posted:Senator Mikulski (D-MD) will not be seeking reelection. He'd have to climb over a lot of other contenders, and Brown's tanking didn't reflect well on him.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:As for Walker, I'll say it again: the objective fact that his policies in Wisconsin have failed, and that he has absolutely zero political rhetorical skills to defend them with, make him not just unelectable, but toxic. His governorship is a direct challenge to the old maxim that conservatism cannot fail, it can only be failed. Thus Scott Walker will be portrayed by people on all sides of the spectrum as a failure of a political leader. I honestly believe he's going to lose re-election in 2016. Walker was re-elected in November. He's our Governor until at least 2018. Yes, the people of the State of Wisconsin have voted Scott Walker to be their Governor literally three times in four years.
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I just can't imagine 2016 topping 2012 or 2008. Remember Joe the Plumber? That poo poo was like two decades worth of election hilarity in one year
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:I just can't imagine 2016 topping 2012 or 2008. Remember Joe the Plumber? That poo poo was like two decades worth of election hilarity in one year Yes, but keep in mind the GOP will actually choose a nominee in 2016 and what they have to choose from is the definition of 
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Whatever happened to people thinking Rob Portman was semi-viable, or at least not an idiot? Or did people just throw him in the  category with Pawlenty?E: Ah apparently he announced he's running for a second senate term back in December
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:On the other hand, Jeb Bush could very well implode, and then it would be between Rubio and Cruz. Two hispanics? I doubt it
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Real Name Grover posted:Whatever happened to people thinking Rob Portman was semi-viable, or at least not an idiot? Or did people just throw him in the I don't think I've ever heard of him. I suppose a Republican too bland to make themselves known through stupidity/hatefulness would be able to stand a better chance with the wider voting public, even though it'd be impossible for them to win the primary.
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Nintendo Kid posted:I don't think I've ever heard of him. I suppose a Republican too bland to make themselves known through stupidity/hatefulness would be able to stand a better chance with the wider voting public, even though it'd be impossible for them to win the primary. Also famously pro-gay marriage. He changed his mind after his son came out to him a few years ago. I don't think a Republican can run for president while pro gay marriage right now. After all, it wasn't possible for a Democrat until 2012.
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William Bear posted:Also famously pro-gay marriage. He changed his mind after his son came out to him a few years ago. He's also pretty much guaranteed that seat given the Ohio dems'
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I had forgotten he had a gay son. Seriously though, what a field. Maybe Huntsman is bored or something. I just have this bad feeling the GOP is going to find their Bill Clinton outside of their current roster of lousy potentials. Vienna Circlejerk posted:gently caress you Ohio dems. Too soon, man.
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Nintendo Kid posted:I don't think I've ever heard of him. I suppose a Republican too bland to make themselves known through stupidity/hatefulness would be able to stand a better chance with the wider voting public, even though it'd be impossible for them to win the primary. Portman's "code name" in the Romney veep selection committee was "Filet-o-Fish" he was that boring. Even though Portman has announced he's not running, boring candidates like Walker (and I don't think conservatives find him boring at all) can still do fine; see Mitt Romney and Bob Dole. Intellectually challenged candidates can do fine too, in the party that gave us Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. Walker's problem, if he has one, is that just about everyone involved in the political organization that put him in the Governor's mansion has been charged with a crime, yet curiously he knew nothing about all these crimes his campaign was doing. It's hard to believe that if there was something to be found it wouldn't have been found already, but behavior like that has the tendency to continue, so who knows what will be dug up when the real opposition researchers start digging. Right now, there are only three Republicans who've staffed up a serious organization: Bush, Rand, and Walker. Of those three, Walker is the only one whose policies are entirely within the party orthodoxy, to the point where he is the party orthodoxy. Obviously nothing's even close to over yet, but don't mistake him for an unserious candidate.
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^ - Haha no.Real Name Grover posted:Too soon, man. You're right, of course, you're right.  Joementum posted:Portman's "code name" in the Romney veep selection committee was "Filet-o-Fish" he was that boring. It does take me a while to remember my state has a senator besides Sherrod Brown.
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gnarlyhotep posted:Johnny Cash? Despite its reputation, Ohio is not, in fact, an open-air prison.
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I would put money on a high level Republican politician making a gaffe by bringing up either the possibility of PMS or menopause as an attack against Clinton thereby demonstrating a complete lack of understanding physiology.
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:I just can't imagine 2016 topping 2012 or 2008. Remember Joe the Plumber? That poo poo was like two decades worth of election hilarity in one year Oh it will, the Republican clown car will grow every election until you have a new "front runner" every 2 weeks. There will be only 1 debate in the primary consisting of 32 different candidates who communicate only by saying "Reagan" in varying tones of voice. The nominee will be chosen via a open source online poll powered by bitcoins, the convention will be just thousands of people in Reagan masks all posing for pictures with each other.
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Venom Snake posted:The nominee will be chosen via a open source online poll Finally, a contest the Pauls can win.
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Joementum posted:Finally, a contest the Pauls can win. Only if it isn't being surreptitiously run by Wall Street interests trying to draft their guy as president.
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Well this probably isn't good (via nytimes)  Hillary Clinton’s Use of Private Email at State Department Raises Flags
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Oh wow. 4 years as Secretary of State, she never had an official email address? That is very odd.
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William Bear posted:Oh wow. 4 years as Secretary of State, she never had an official email address? That is very odd. I could chalk it up to an old person thing but depending on who hosts her personal address she's probably committed a pretty serious breach of protocol for handling classified information. E: emphasis on protocol, this is the kind of poo poo that gets security clearances revoked
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This is something that will only be on the radar for politicos and partisans, but it's a big deal if you're the person who has to schedule hearing rooms for Jason Chaffetz or Trey Gowdy. Your job just got a whole lot busier.
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