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Galaga Galaxian posted:According to The Clone Wars you need special training to do that, and Kanan is basically a nobody. Right except darth vader just pulled that off at the end of jedi and the clone wars seems to openly contradict that so....
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True. Vader is the chosen one? I dunno, I got nothing. Anyways, Kanan better not loving die. He's cool.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:True. Vader is the chosen one? I dunno, I got nothing. Also Darth Swift managed to figure it out. Cant be that hard. 
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kingcom posted:Also Darth Swift managed to figure it out. Cant be that hard.  Kinda looks like Kenobi is checking her out a bit there.
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Kesper North posted:
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bunnyofdoom posted:Who wouldn't? Yoda.
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Feb 27, 2015 05:01
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Inquisitor saying "Finally: a fight worth my time" seems to indicate that Fulcrum is Ahsoka or another Jedi of note. The Inquisitor has already fought Kanaan, then Kanaan and Ezra together (kinda) and lost both times (kinda), so it'd be weird for him to stare them down and declare the upcoming duel a major moment.Galaga Galaxian posted:Fulcrum is Ahsoka. Fulcrum beats down the Inquisitior alongside Kanan. However another Inquisitor shows up, Barriss, and Fulcrum tells the others to run and faces the new enemy down, making a nebulous, fate-uncertain sacrifice. This would be cool, but also I'd hate for the finale to feel like "We spent a season building up this new cast in this new era with its new conflicts, now let's double-down on the TCW stuff. One character as a big reveal is great, but two in the same episode would be overdoing it. On that note, I hope that Rebels never gets to explore Vader's identity as Anakin Skywalker, since he's such a monolithic, anonymous presence up until ESB. From the perspective of these characters, Vader must seem like an unstoppable boogeyman - that vibe works better for the era. tin can made man fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Feb 27, 2015 |
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Feb 27, 2015 06:23
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I forget, why did Bariss go all nuts again?
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Feb 27, 2015 06:30
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A teenaged padawan specializing in healing (I think?) suddenly thrust into a position of serious responsibility and danger that she just wasn't prepared for.
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Feb 27, 2015 06:34
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From her point of view, the Jedi are evil.
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swickles posted:I forget, why did Bariss go all nuts again? She thought the jedi had become super dumb. Because of how dumb they were acting on a regular basis.
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tin can made man posted:Inquisitor saying "Finally: a fight worth my time" seems to indicate that Fulcrum is Ahsoka or another Jedi of note. The Inquisitor has already fought Kanaan, then Kanaan and Ezra together (kinda) and lost both times (kinda), so it'd be weird for him to stare them down and declare the upcoming duel a major moment. I'm in agreement on this, with one, one small exception. Namely, if Vader uses the reveal that he's Anakin, something as simple as saying 'Snips' in a fight with Ahsoka, to throw off her concentration and strike a lethal blow. Now, mind you, I'm not in the mood that I'd want her to return to just then drop dead, but if it had to happen, its what I'd want. Tragedy and betrayal and all that.
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Feb 27, 2015 15:27
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I can't help but wonder if Fulcrum is going to be someone more well-known, like a movie character. I've never really watched the Clone Wars shows so the reveal of it being someone from that show means nothing to me.
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Unfortunately Fulcrum's identity is already pretty well figured out this point thanks to (non-speculation, potentially serious spoilers) Ahsoka's French voice actress already updating her CV with the entry "Star Wars Rebels: Ahsoka Tano disguised as Fulcrum"
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They seem to be veering away from Clone Wars. It all happened, but having watched Clone Wars is not at all necessary for this show. Which makes sense, since (like most cartoons) the target audience is They probably won't kill Ashoka yet, because she'll either have a strong emotional connection to some or absolutely no emotional connection for others. It would be stone cold, but I don't see them just giving her a red-shirt death but she hasn't earned a dramatic death on this show. Plus, integrating these rebels into the larger rebellion will require someone who knows about the broader rebellion. So, she'll probably be a deal in S2 and then die. I mean, she has to die sometime.
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What if... What if Chopper dies, and they replace him with the other droid. We did see that other droid survive the fall...
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My money is that nobody is going to die and this is just hype to get everyone more excited for the finale. My other theory is that Zeb is going to get tripped by Chopper and fall out of the Ghost in the first few minutes of the episode. He'll be ok though.
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So is tonight the finale? The episode isn't on the app
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Yep, east coast airing just finished.Test Pattern posted:I couldn't tell for sure, is she carrying a lightsaber on her hip or is that a blaster? Either way so happy to have her back. I wasn't looking but it's been said that she indeed does have both her lightsabers; we'll probably know for sure when the episode guide goes up later tonight. Cross-Section fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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I couldn't tell for sure, is she carrying a lightsaber on her hip or is that a blaster? Either way so happy to have her back.
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Wow, that was worthy of a season finale, though I think it suffered a little bit from the 22 min episode length making it so they had to rush along some. This is one episode that could have used some extra time to build. Rest of comments in CIA format naturally - Think they kind of failed the "somebody will die" tension by making it so only Ezra had a "death" experience; he was basically the only one on the show who couldn't logically die off. Mildly disappointed we lost the Inquisitor considering he did urbane polite evil like nobody's business, but the death was certainly a worthy one. Kanan beating him felt like a worthy advancement of Kanan's own character growth (once more I love the fact the "wise old mentor" in this show is in fact still learning things himself) and Kanan specifically winning when the Inquisitor tried that spinning saber trick that the show runners mentioned was primarily to intimidate less-trained Jedi was well in theme with the "being stronger than fear" stuff they were going for. Instead of being intimidated by the trick, he finally saw it for the weakness it was and exploited it for victory. Tarkin loses but at least he doesn't come off as an idiot to do so; he had a plan in place to bring in reinforcements and if the other rebels hadn't shown up it's entirely possible that horde of TIEs would have blown up the Ghost's crew. I couldn't help but think "Evacuate? In our moment of defeat? Well, I suppose so..." when that guy ran up to tell him the ship was doomed though  .Feels like they upped the stakes faster than I anticipated though. So the Rebel Alliance proper seems to already be in existence, was thinking we'd actually see it being built more. Ahsoka I figured would show up, though she looks awesome at least. I am REALLY nervous they already have Vader showing up though. It's certainly logical enough for him to attend to a situation that's already causing Tarkin difficulty (especially when said situation involves at least one Jedi who could kill an Inquisitor) but writing to make HIM as worthy an adversary as he deserves to be seems like a neat trick, especially this early on in the show. Still, I feel like Tarkin was handled very well, so I have some hope for it at least. Really hope he and Tarkin aren't kept too front and center though, it seems like it'd be hard to sustain their reputation or the tension they should generate over the long run. Little bits - like that that one short bit they showed off Sabine with pre-show where she rampaged around a TIE base is apparently canon; the stormtroopers recognizing her and saying "not again!" as she trashed the place a second time was cute. Wonder if Ezra and Zeb bragged about that fighter to Sabine or if she figured it out herself; I could pretty much see either. Kanan switching between Ezra's gun and blade functions on his saber was clever (I love Ezra noting "why didn't I think of that?"). The "are they actually a couple or not?" teasing around Hera and Kanan got even worse with that hug; I think a bunch of the shipper crowd probably had strokes.
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Given the propensity for Star Wars fights to often play out through people getting thrown/falling from various degrees of heights, I had a feeling that the whole "Who Will Fall" business was just some cutesy lamp-shading on that particular trope. They didn't exactly call attention to it, but look at Ezra and the Inquisitor! Speaking of the latter, I really, really enjoyed how the show dealt with him; Kanan beats him through some good old, very-typical-to-Star-Wars unconventional warfare (the whole business with alternating stun-blasts with saber strikes) and then blows up his silly gimmick saber by doing the rational thing and stabbing it in the middle. Best thing is, the Inquisitor knows that he's hosed up from the very beginning, starting with his reaction to Kanan surprising him with Ezra's saber. This culminates in his throwing out the ol' "things worse than death" cliche. The power of that line lies more in the implications than the actual delivery; we don't exactly know if he's referring to Vader's wrath, or the Emperor's, or other Inquisitors, or something completely unrelated, but that's the point, as there's such a foreboding quality to that line that it does indeed make you think. I am a bit disappointed at the lack of follow-through on those "the Lothal rebels will suffer a big loss" hints that they've been dropping behind the scenes, but the lack of anything in that sector didn't really detract from the episode overall. Cross-Section fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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Only things I really didn't dig were Sabine jumping around like a Jedi with dozens of wildly missing shots, as well as how simple the plan was for the crew to pull off. The whole show still feels a little too much like Original Trilogy Remix to me, but I have hope that next season it can become its own thing a little more. But more than anything I just want then to shave Kanan's goatee and cut off his ponytail. He looks like a skeezy 90s porn director, and the look hasn't grown on me any.
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I dunno if it's me or what but Asohka's lines felt very... lazy. Not quite like her. But it's good to have Snips back. She needs closure, even if it is at the end of Vader's saber.
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goddamn after watching that I think this summer I need to actually finish Clone Wars, I stopped about 3 episodes in to the second season and decided to catch up on Arrow instead. Liked the action in this one and I couldn't help but think that Hera could've clowned all of those pilots easily, it'd be the closest we'd get to a canon version of this 
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Honestly, I hope they keep Fulcrum as a supporting character and one who isn't in ever episode at that. As much as I like Ahsoka, she had her series, this show is about Kana, Hera, Ezra, Sabine, and Chopper. I'm fine with seeing more Ahsoka, but I'm worried that she'll start stealing a lot of the spotlight.
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I get the feeling that with Vader now being a player of sorts they may keep her around expressly for a final showdown. I mean I don't expect something like that to happen next season but just something for long term
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Sith Happens posted:
Nice call. Good season finale although it'd have been nice if it were 5-10 minutes longer just to make the pacing a little better. I found that the music changed very quickly too, when they had to cut to other bits of action.
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So this episode's Rebels Recon dropped a few tidbits about Season 2: - The Lothal cell's got a bounty on their heads now - The Ghost will getting around a lot more; the next season will have several new planets - They'll be working with a crack squad of A-Wing pilots, though the pitch sounds more like Wraith Squadron than a traditional fighter group - Ahsoka no longer identifies as a Jedi and as such, wields silver blades - Lots of "exciting" guest cast - Freddie Prince Jr says Vader is handled extremely well (read: sparingly, if this USA Today article is of any indication) Also, according to that same article, Ahsoka will be handled in much the same manner; in addition, we apparently haven't seen the last of the Inquisitorius. VVVV edit: I actually meant that in terms of other inquisitors appearing, but I wouldn't bat an eyelash if the Pau'an one did reappear Cross-Section fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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I figured that would not be the last we've seen of the Inquisitor. He was pretty awesome, too much work went into that character to kill him in only 13 episodes. I thought it was obvious with his final like of "Death is not the worst thing you can imagine" or whatever the hell it was that it wasn't the last we'd see him. I can't for the life of me see how he survived that fall into the reactor though.
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I'm using the spoiler tags to mask possible Season 2 spoilers, but yeah, they're unnecessary for discussing the latest episode, which has indeed aired on both east and west coasts by now.
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DutchDupe posted:I figured that would not be the last we've seen of the Inquisitor. He was pretty awesome, too much work went into that character to kill him in only 13 episodes. I thought it was obvious with his final like of "Death is not the worst thing you can imagine" or whatever the hell it was that it wasn't the last we'd see him. I can't for the life of me see how he survived that fall into the reactor though. You know what, I'd rather throw myself into that exploding reactor than face Darth Vader too. Vader is exactly what he was referring to with "some things far more frightening than death", IMO.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:You know what, I'd rather throw myself into that exploding reactor than face Darth Vader too. Vader is exactly what he was referring to with "some things far more frightening than death", IMO. That's certainly the way I read it, "if I don't win here, my master is coming for you anyway, and I'd rather burn now than face him after getting beaten by a half-trained Padawan coward." Speaking of Annie, his arrival is probably a death sentence for Ahsoka. I'm a fan of hers and was hoping she'd survive to OT era, but he's going to sense her the first time they're in the same system, and I can't see that ending well for her.
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It's kinda funny because I see her dying before OT but ironically her 'existence' will probably give them some temporary slack. No way Vader just kills her willy nilly. She's way too much of a connection to his past and without the "you betrayed" me element Ben had. He's going to have doubt, he's going to be pressured, and she's not going to have the faith/love Luke did and get herself killed because she's going to resort to violence
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zVxTeflon posted:Can someone gif those rebel corvettes coming out of hyperspace please   edit: my favorite moment from the season http://i.imgur.com/TzoN8Pd.gifv alg fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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I gotta admit I'd be disappointed if they introduced Ahsoka only to never have her show up or have Vader kill her early on. I think she's the single strongest character to come out of the whole Filoni production, and I definitely think there's room enough for her to take a prominent role without stealing the spotlight, especially with the second season being longer. She's also a really interesting contrast to Ezra and Kanan in that she actively doesn't want to be a Jedi, which I can't recall ever having been a thing before.
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