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I have a feeling that the AppleWatch Edition is going to be way more than $3000
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Mar 4, 2015 22:57
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an ounce [28g or about 1.6 cubic centimeters] of gold in bar form is $1200
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Mar 4, 2015 23:06
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qirex posted:an ounce [28g or about 1.6 cubic centimeters] of gold in bar form is $1200 what does that have to do with the iwatch? do you really think they're going to make any of them out of solid gold instead of just electroplating? what conceivable reason would the have for doing that?
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Mar 4, 2015 23:10
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wank factor
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Mar 4, 2015 23:12
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infernal machines posted:do you really think they're going to make any of them out of solid gold instead of just electroplating? "Each has a watch case crafted from 18-karat gold that our metallurgists have developed to be up to twice as hard as standard gold. "
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Mar 4, 2015 23:19
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that said I bet there's going to be a fair aftermarket for plating them
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Mar 4, 2015 23:20
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qirex posted:18-karat gold that our metallurgists have developed to be up to twice as hard as standard gold lol @ apple advertizing pure strain gold, specially crafted by our artisan metallurgists also "crafted from" does not mean it's a solid gold chassis, it's a bullshit marketing term. i mean it could mean that, but it's absurd
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Mar 4, 2015 23:22
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I don't see why that's so farfetched, if they were just plating it I doubt they'd even bother with a separate line for the edition since it would add approximately zero dollars to the price e: also that steel link band is going to cost several hundred dollars on its own watches be expensive, yo
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Mar 4, 2015 23:25
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this is apple, who charge about 17x extra the actual difference in price of storage between iphone models
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Mar 4, 2015 23:27
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the apple watch edition is 18k gold and will be 10k according to gruber
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Mar 4, 2015 23:29
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marco arment thinks apple is doing another $1000 ipad thing and it will be 5k http://www.marco.org/2015/03/04/boring-apple-watch-edition-pricing
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Mar 4, 2015 23:30
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qirex posted:I don't see why that's so farfetched, if they were just plating it I doubt they'd even bother with a separate line for the edition since it would add approximately zero dollars to the price it doesn't have to add anything to the cost to be sold for 500% more and the number one way to do that is to make it a separate product line. hell, given the bewildering choices apple has made the last few years it probably is made of solid gold. it'll be a luxury targeted product made for a market that wouldn't even glance at it. hopefully they can sell it to aspirationals with no sense and too much credit and the sort of nouveau-riche assholes that still buy virtu and porche design
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Mar 4, 2015 23:30
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cremnob posted:marco arment thinks apple is doing another $1000 ipad thing and it will be 5k He's right.
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Mar 4, 2015 23:32
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cremnob posted:marco arment thinks apple is doing another $1000 ipad thing and it will be 5k this actually doesn't seem unreasonable
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Mar 4, 2015 23:34
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qirex posted:e: also that steel link band is going to cost several hundred dollars on its own i'm not arguing the cost, i'm saying i don't see why it would matter if it were solid gold rather than electroplated given that it's a hideous design and tacky looking as all hell. is "solid gold" versus "gold" really a differentiating factor for the armani-exchange wearing, 3 series bmw owning wannabies that are going to rush out to buy this thing?
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Mar 4, 2015 23:43
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infernal machines posted:i'm not arguing the cost, i'm saying i don't see why it would matter if it were solid gold rather than electroplated given that it's a hideous design and tacky looking as all hell. is "solid gold" versus "gold" really a differentiating factor for the armani-exchange wearing, 3 series bmw owning wannabies that are going to rush out to buy this thing? no because if those are the people you want you plate it and charge $100 more, not make out out of solid gold and charge thousands more, the thing I'm curious about is if there's an upgrade path since the swiss brands are really good at selling "and you can give it to your grandson" type longevity feelings around mechanical watches [ignoring the fact that in 50 years getting mechanical watches serviced will be ruinously expensive] there's a reason there isn't a gold-plated normal version
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Mar 4, 2015 23:47
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qirex posted:the thing I'm curious about is if there's an upgrade path this is an apple product, you already know the answer to that the upgrade path is "buy a new one and sell your old one to poors on craigslist or give it to your kids as a toy"
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Mar 4, 2015 23:50
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infernal machines posted:this is an apple product, you already know the answer to that that works for $500 telephones but the market for watches over a couple grand is pretty firmly in "heirloom" territory given that this is going to be the worst apple watch they ever make why would anyone besides russian gangsters and idle rich emiratis buy the first one?
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Mar 4, 2015 23:52
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qirex posted:given that this is going to be the worst apple watch they ever make why would anyone besides russian gangsters and idle rich emiratis buy the first one? as i have repeatedly pointed out nothing about the iwatch and especially the edition watch makes any goddamn sense, so who knows? nothing about the design, formfactor, or potential use case in any way makes sense as a luxury product, but according to cremnob's tasseomancy that's what they're doing
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Mar 4, 2015 23:57
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the cremnobs of the world believe apple can invent a luxury market because rich people bought iphones and ipads, so clearly that means they can sell a first gen product that no one else is buying for 20x the price
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Mar 5, 2015 00:04
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really expensive watches are also one of the primary bribery delivery mechanisms, since the chinese government has started cracking down on gift-giving swiss sales there are off like 20%
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Mar 5, 2015 00:09
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and for bypassing currency controls
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Mar 5, 2015 00:13
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if you really, genuinely think that they are charging 10k for a gold watch then you are dumb the number of people with crippling credit card debt who will buy the poo poo out of it to feel better about themselves is far too great to charge an amount that they can't afford in the more literal sense. so you can have 10k people buy it at $10k a pop, or 50k people buy it at $3k you think it's targeted at rich people, but surprise, cause in reality it's targeted at poors. h t h
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Mar 5, 2015 00:13
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they've been hyping up the fact that everything is on a single chip and how it took tons of R&D to make that happen so i am betting heavily on it being upgradable. watch the Edition sell out and be backlogged for months because of constraints on gold or something absurd like that.
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Mar 5, 2015 00:16
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triple sulk posted:if you really, genuinely think that they are charging 10k for a gold watch then you are dumb you are projecting
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Locker Room Zubaz posted:they've been hyping up the fact that everything is on a single chip and how it took tons of R&D to make that happen so i am betting heavily on it being upgradable. watch the Edition sell out and be backlogged for months because of constraints on gold or something absurd like that. yes, if you assume apple is going to completely turn their proven successful business models on end specifically for this one niche market product line, then sure it'll be upgradable it makes sense in as much as it's the only way to sell a $10k watch that would otherwise be obsolete trash in a year
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Mar 5, 2015 00:29
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infernal machines posted:yes, if you assume apple is going to completely turn their proven successful business models on end specifically for this one niche market product line, then sure it'll be upgradable they turned their business on its end to release a giant iphone. you think apple is still following some script that they haven't followed since before steve jobs died. The watch will be upgradable because they want people to see it as a luxury item and not a disposable piece of electronics. Also this won't be niche it's going to sell like crazy even if you think it is stupid.
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Mar 5, 2015 00:35
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I'm definitely not saying it will be user-upgradeable just that there could at least be some kind of trade-in deal
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Mar 5, 2015 00:35
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qirex posted:I'm definitely not saying it will be user-upgradeable just that there could at least be some kind of trade-in deal that sort of kills the heirloom appeal though doesn't it?
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Mar 5, 2015 00:37
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Locker Room Zubaz posted:Also this won't be niche it's going to sell like crazy even if you think it is stupid. the iphone 6+ is clear evidence this is true
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Mar 5, 2015 00:37
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can't wait to see battery life
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Mar 5, 2015 00:38
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echinopsis posted:the iphone 6+ is clear evidence this is true yes, my fundamental mistake is i keep assuming apple is still a company that wants to make good products
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Mar 5, 2015 00:46
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infernal machines posted:yes, my fundamental mistake is i keep assuming apple is still a company that wants to make good products The 6 and 6+ are both good products
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Mar 5, 2015 01:03
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nope they are selling like crazy because they are universally hated
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Mar 5, 2015 01:07
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no they're market chasing trash designed to hoover up the idiots that finally got sick of sarnsung's poo poo
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Mar 5, 2015 01:08
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Locker Room Zubaz posted:nope they are selling like crazy because they are universally hated they don't have to be good products to sell well, see samsung phones circa 2010-2013
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Mar 5, 2015 01:09
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infernal machines posted:yes, if you assume apple is going to completely turn their proven successful business models on end specifically for this one niche market product line, then sure it'll be upgradable lol list of upgradeable apple products: - 
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Mar 5, 2015 01:10
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theflyingexecutive posted:lol my old IIfx??
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infernal machines posted:they don't have to be good products to sell well, see samsung phones circa 2010-2013 yeah man it is totally the same, selling a premium priced phone and gaining massive market share is literally teh same as giving your phones massive subsidies through your bloated marketing budget
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