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thatfatkid: Feb 20, 2011; by Azathoth

Mithranderp posted:

In other news, rich person manages to avoid a recorded conviction for four counts of cocaine possession, only has to pay $2500 with no recorded conviction. This is for possession of more than 12 grams.

It was for 4 counts of possession totaling up to 12 grams.

The judge made the right decision.

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TheMightyHandful: Dec 8, 2008

Fruity Gordo posted:

Permaculture is also p great for drought prone areas, hugelkultur in particular. Chuck a hugelkultur bed in every backyard, encourage cereal farmers to rotate crops instead of forcing them to destroy their land by producing unfeasible yields of the same poo poo in the same fields year on year, etc

Just googled those, that's pretty cool, might do one of those at home

# ? Mar 5, 2015 05:35

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

thatfatkid posted:

It was for 4 counts of possession totaling up to 12 grams.

The judge made the right decision.

To a football star, 2500 is nothing. I'd be more in favour of community service and drug education than of jail time or a fine.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 05:38

Fruity Gordo: Aug 5, 2013; Neurotic, Impotent Rage!

TheMightyHandful posted:

Just googled those, that's pretty cool, might do one of those at home

They're mondo rad, and you can pretend you have a lil self-watering mountain in your backyard :3:

# ? Mar 5, 2015 05:41

thatfatkid: Feb 20, 2011; by Azathoth

Mithranderp posted:

To a football star, 2500 is nothing. I'd be more in favour of community service and drug education than of jail time or a fine.

Yes $2500 may not be as much of a hit to a professional sportsman than to Joe Public, but that's ignoring the fact that he has been named and shamed internationally. Joe Public would not have experienced that.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 05:41

gay picnic defence: Oct 5, 2009; I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Fruity Gordo posted:

hugelkultur

I googled this to see what it was and found a bunch of pictures of idiots burying CCA posts in their raised beds :cripes:

# ? Mar 5, 2015 05:47

Fruity Gordo: Aug 5, 2013; Neurotic, Impotent Rage!

gay picnic defence posted:

I googled this to see what it was and found a bunch of pictures of idiots burying CCA posts in their raised beds

I've seen people building raised bed borders with particle board :laugh:

WHICH IDIOT LEFT THIS GOLD OUT FOR HARD RUBBISH. FOUR PLANKS AND YOU GOT A STEW GOIN

# ? Mar 5, 2015 05:56

My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

Watching Kevin Rudd spesk on Charlie Rose, whats the aussie opinion of him?

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:01

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

My Imaginary GF posted:

Watching Kevin Rudd spesk on Charlie Rose, whats the aussie opinion of him?

Was an okay PM until he imploded his party because they didn't want him as leader.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:04

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

He got knifed in the back then shooed back in and one of the first things he did was to dramatically worsen the way refugees are treated. gently caress him.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:04

thatfatkid: Feb 20, 2011; by Azathoth

gay picnic defence posted:

I googled this to see what it was and found a bunch of pictures of idiots burying CCA posts in their raised beds

Nothing wrong with CCA treated timber being used for garden beds.

My Imaginary GF posted:

Watching Kevin Rudd spesk on Charlie Rose, whats the aussie opinion of him?

A much better PM than the one who knifed him.

thatfatkid fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Mar 5, 2015

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:05

Les Affaires: Nov 15, 2004

Imagine if Joe Biden got together with Cabinet and usurped Obama to become president, then Obama was demoted to Secretary of State, rather than just sacked on the spot.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:07

lightinwater: Jan 1, 2014

Off the top of my head the carbon claims seem shonky given that methane is orders of magnitude worse than carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas (though I guess if their plan is to take the cows we already have ..). Plus at first blush it seems to hit more than a few pseudo-science alarm bells; this one trick solves all the problems, doing something as nature intended, all easily explained in year 8 science terms.
I'm not sure how you'd justify the claim that using hoofed animals in Australia, no matter what the technique, is in any way how things evolved.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:09

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

My Imaginary GF posted:

Watching Kevin Rudd spesk on Charlie Rose, whats the aussie opinion of him?

A control freak who couldn't understand why people started to dislike him

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:12

My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

Les Affaires posted:

Imagine if Joe Biden got together with Cabinet and usurped Obama to become president, then Obama was demoted to Secretary of State, rather than just sacked on the spot.

Ba-wha? If you usurp power, you leave the one you usurp it from dead, you don't keep them in the loop.

How did that even work? Why? It makes no sense to keep your rival in a position of power.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:13

Smegmatron: Apr 23, 2003; I hate to advocate emptyquoting or shitposting to anyone, but they've always worked for me.

epipen posted:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-05/constitutional-recognition-indigenous-people-racist-senator/6282972

This is the exact logic employed by convicted racist Andrew Bolt.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:13

Adnar: Jul 11, 2002

My Imaginary GF posted:

How did that even work?

badly

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:13

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

My Imaginary GF posted:

Ba-wha? If you usurp power, you leave the one you usurp it from dead, you don't keep them in the loop.

How did that even work? Why? It makes no sense to keep your rival in a position of power.

Who the gently caress knows. It didnt work anyhow.

Also to complete the analogy he announced Guantanamo Bay II.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:15

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

The longer story re: Rudd is something like this

After a over a decade of right wing leadership there was a perception that the previous PM (Howard) was yesterday's man and had failed to adapt to modern sensibilities while simultaneously over-reaching on industrial relations "reform". Rudd promised to address all the social stuff Howard had not done while still keeping the economy strong. He won convincingly in 2007, the right (ie the Liberals) was in turmoil, and things were looking good.

Then less than a year later the GFC hit.

Rudd and co implemented a pretty decent Keynesian stimulus package and kept the economy out of recession. He'd also made a big deal about how important climate change was, but then legislation didn't get passed because the Libs didn't support cap-and-trade to the point of junking their pro-C&T leader, replacing him with Tony Abbott. Rudd's controlling streak started getting stronger, a few bad polls came out and then his party dumped him as leader in early 2010, shortly before the election

This really put the wind into Abbott's sails and he pursued a relentless lowest-common-denominator campaign against the new Labor leader, almost to the point of winning the 2010 election. Behind the scenes Rudd was incredibly angry at losing his leadership and undermined the party constantly for 3 years until just before the 2013 election he was put back in as leader, just in time to lose the 2013 election.

My Imaginary GF posted:

Ba-wha? If you usurp power, you leave the one you usurp it from dead, you don't keep them in the loop.

How did that even work? Why? It makes no sense to keep your rival in a position of power.

After the 2010 election the balance in parliament was so close that losing a single seat (in, say, a by-election) could have meant them losing government.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:16

Avshalom: Feb 14, 2012; by Lowtax

MIGF!

Please stay, this is the thread for you.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:17

My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

What are by-elections? Is that what you hold when someone dies and your governor doesn't have the power to appoint someone to a seat?

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:21

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

My Imaginary GF posted:

What are by-elections? Is that what you hold when someone dies and your governor doesn't have the power to appoint someone to a seat?

Think a special election in a congressional district.

The general procedure for replacing Senators here is that the party they came from gets to choose who replaces them (although there is some interesting history regarding that).

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:23

NTRabbit: Aug 15, 2012; i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches

My Imaginary GF posted:

What are by-elections? Is that what you hold when someone dies and your governor doesn't have the power to appoint someone to a seat?

No one can be appointed to a lower house seat, so any time a sitting member dies or resigns a special election needs to be held within a specified time frame, we call them by-elections

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:24

Ragingsheep: Nov 7, 2009

Don't forget that he tried to impose a "super-tax" on miners during the commodity boom only to have the miners spend $22m on advertising to scare the public into thinking it was actually a tax on them.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:32

drowned in pussy juice: Oct 13, 2009; by FactsAreUseless

I doubt it was motivated by anything other than political pragmatism and the fact that its about fuckin time but it was pretty decent (in the most pejorative sense of the word) of him to make a formal apology to indigenous australians.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:46

hiddenmovement: Sep 29, 2011; "Most mornings I'll apologise in advance to my wife."

Keep in mind that we are currently in the middle of Stolen Generation 2 : Electric Boogaloo

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:47

thatfatkid: Feb 20, 2011; by Azathoth

Ragingsheep posted:

Don't forget that he tried to impose a "super-tax" on miners during the commodity boom only to have the miners spend $22m on advertising to scare the public into thinking it was actually a tax on them.

And then Julia Gillard goes on to water the tax down as much as possible to please the mining companies. She really was the personification of everything terrible about the ALP.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:54

gay picnic defence: Oct 5, 2009; I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

thatfatkid posted:

Nothing wrong with CCA treated timber being used for garden beds.

There is if the point is to have them rot down. They will, but too slow to be of much use; and as they do they'll release their copper, chromium and arsenic into the soil. Not enough to cause much harm, but it's ironic given the people building these things are the same sorts of people who flip their poo poo at a little SO₂ in wine.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:55

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN: Jun 26, 2009

Avshalom posted:

MIGF! Please stay, this is the thread for you.

This is the worst thing you've ever posted.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:55

Thinking: Jan 22, 2009

Objectively speaking Rudd was a remarkably progressive PM for Australia in 2007, despite attempts to censor the entire internet and his stand on gay marriage. General consensus in 2010 was that Julia Gillard would be even more progressive and you can thank the ALP for ensuring that that was most definitely not the case.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 06:57

Negative Entropy: Nov 30, 2009

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/mar/04/research-facilities-prepare-shutdown-government-refuses-secure-funding?CMP=soc_567

The future of some successful Australian science institutes is now tied by the neck to the Education Reforms and the LNP is basically playing chicken with the future of australian science. The brain drain is real and Senate Labor is being forced to choose between killing a lot of efficient breakthrough producing labs and letting $100,000 degrees through.

quote:

Australian science research facilities prepare for shutdown as government refuses to secure funding
Up to 1,700 jobs at 27 facilities at risk from 30 June, with $150m in vital funding tied to the Coalition�s higher-education changes

More than two dozen research facilities are preparing to shut down as administrators warn Australian science is suffering �immense� damage as a result of the federal government�s refusal to guarantee critical infrastructure funding.

About $150m in funding for 27 research infrastructure facilities promised in last year�s federal budget has been tied to the Abbott government�s higher-education changes, which have stalled in the Senate.

The facilities have no guaranteed funding past 30 June and up to 1,700 jobs are at risk if they are forced to shut down.

Among the sites funded by the National Collaborative Research Infrastructure Scheme (NCRIS) is the Australian Microscopy and Microanalysis Research Facility, where scientists invented the Nanopatch, a needle-free vaccine delivery patch that could dramatically slow the spread of viruses during a pandemic.

Another NCRIS-funded site, the Australian National Fabrication Facility (ANFF), is developing a system to mass produce the revolutionary patch, but will have to shut its doors if funding isn�t renewed.

�We will close on the 30th June. There�s no magic bullet, there�s nothing up our sleeves,� ANFF chief executive, Rosie Hicks, said. �We are now entering the phase where we have to make wind-down plans.�

Even if the education minister, Christopher Pyne, relents and passes a bill funding NCRIS, the damage will already have been done, Hicks said. �Obviously we�re losing people. I�m being asked for references.�

Some of the facility�s 94 staff � all but three of them researchers or technicians � will take jobs overseas, and one has already left for Canada, she added.

The uncertainty also means the facility has not entered into any commercial contracts past the end of June, meaning revenue will likely fall even if the government money comes through.

Senate estimates heard last week the number of jobs funded in whole or part by NCRIS has grown to 1,700. Around 35,000 researchers use NCRIS facilities and services each year.

Fifteen heads of university and research institutions issued an open letter to Pyne on Thursday warning of the �immense� damage the closure of NCRIS facilities would do to Australian research, which they said would be �set back by several years�.

�[The] exodus of highly specialised skills has begun and will only accelerate as the end of the year draws closer,� the letter said. �Furthermore, many of the facilities cannot be viably maintained if taken offline for significant periods.

�This means that if operational funding for 2015-16 is not confirmed in the next two months, the government will be effectively decommissioning high-cost public infrastructure that in many cases has years if not decades of productive working life remaining.�

About $40m worth of data-gathering instruments could also be stranded in Australia�s oceans if the June deadline passes without renewal, Tim Moltmann, the director of the Integrated Marine Observing System (IMOS), said.

The agency, which deploys equipment to take scientific measurements in the ocean, has budgeted to run its instruments until June, �but no provision has been made for decommissioning�, Moltmann said.

He said its 80 employees were anxious about the June deadline. �Staff are nervous and some of our operators have already lost staff who didn�t necessarily want to leave but who have had to go and find more secure employment,� he said.

IMOS staff mostly worked regional hubs such Hobart and Townsville. �A majority of those positions are at risk without further funding,� he said.

An independent review of NCRIS due in May has reportedly found the program operates effectively and efficiently.

Hicks said the program was �world-leading� but that both major parties had only ever granted it short-term funding.

�We�ve been in a pretty difficult situation for a number of years with the funding being for quite short periods,� she said of her facility. �But we�ve never been three months from shutdown.�

Astronomer and Nobel laureate Brian Schmidt said the cuts would be a �hit to research like I have never seen in the 20 years I have been in Australia�.

�It really is the foundations of the research we do across the country, across all disciplines so it will have an enormous effect and it is something we cannot let happen,� he told ABC radio.

He said successive governments had invested more than $2b in the program over the past decade. �To suddenly put at risk the bridge between the past and the future such that all of that investment, $2bn over the last decade is suddenly put at risk, seems to be unconscionable,� he said.

�Ultimately, this is not the way a grown up country behaves. It�s very childish and it�s having a profound impact on something that is going to increase the productivity of the nation.�

Pyne said on Thursday it was Labor who set the funding deadline of 30 June, and that the government wanted to keep the program going. �That requires the [higher education] reform to pass to provide the savings,� he said in a statement.

�The funds for NCRIS only exist because of savings elsewhere in the higher education package.

�The way for Labor to support NCRIS, which they themselves defunded, is to support the higher education reforms.

�Labor needs to stop playing politics and enter negotiations with the government because it will be on the heads of Labor, the Greens and the crossbenchers if it closes,� he said.

Labor�s research and innovation spokesman, Kim Carr, said the government was holding the program �hostage� and could fund NCRIS at any time through an appropriations bill. �The reality is that the government is playing chicken with the country�s future,� he said.

RIP Australian Science.

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thatfatkid: Feb 20, 2011; by Azathoth

gay picnic defence posted:

There is if the point is to have them rot down. They will, but too slow to be of much use; and as they do they'll release their copper, chromium and arsenic into the soil. Not enough to cause much harm, but it's ironic given the people building these things are the same sorts of people who flip their poo poo at a little SO₂ in wine.

Ah righto, thought you were talking about using them as structural members for a garden bed. My bad.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 07:02

Thinking: Jan 22, 2009

Pyne is using the same strategy Morrison used, except, where Morrison is an expert and well-practiced bully, Pyne is a spineless nobody with the authority of a wet fart

# ? Mar 5, 2015 07:05

Les Affaires: Nov 15, 2004

cpaf posted:

Pyne is using the same strategy Morrison used, except, where Morrison is an expert and well-practiced bully, Pyne is a spineless nobody with the authority of a wet fart

Hey, a wet fart has authority over the pants that it encounters.

# ? Mar 5, 2015 07:06

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN: Jun 26, 2009

We're gonna find out who is right about accelerationism vis whether we bounce or crash.

cpaf posted:

Pyne is using the same strategy Morrison used, except, where Morrison is an expert and well-practiced bully, Pyne is a spineless nobody with the authority of a wet fart

Those kids were still in detention last I heard?

# ? Mar 5, 2015 07:25

oilatsnep: Sep 5, 2011

Surely the Liberals will run out of things to hold hostage soon..

What's next? "If you don't vote for all our lovely legislation we'll blow up the moon!"

# ? Mar 5, 2015 07:27

SadisTech: Jun 26, 2013; Clem.

Les Affaires posted:

Hey, a wet fart has authority over the pants that it encounters.

Can verify

# ? Mar 5, 2015 07:43

Seagull: Oct 9, 2012; give me a chip

good to know I'm hosed regardless of outcome

# ? Mar 5, 2015 07:49

Tirade: Jul 17, 2001; Cybertron must act decisively to prevent and oppose acts of genocide and violations of international robot rights law and to bring perpetrators before the Decepticon Justice Division; Pillbug

Anyone know how Muir's speech went?

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Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

Basically told the govt they were shitlords. Good job.

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