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Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin
I didn't actually think it was that controversial that the differences between the ALP and the LNP were superficial and semantic, but there you go

It's possible that living in NSW where the Libs and the Other Libs are on a unity ticket wrt to continued coal mining, tax breaks, contestable funding for VET and most privatisations that aren't the ones the ETU are losing their poo poo over has coloured my reactions somewhat.

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Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin
also where the leader of the "socialist left" is a hardline anti-choice anti-gay Catholic who loves small government

asio
Nov 29, 2008

"Also Sprach Arnold Jacobs: A Developmental Guide for Brass Wind Musicians" refers to the mullet as an important tool for professional cornet playing and box smashing black and blood

Quantum Mechanic posted:

I didn't actually think it was that controversial that the differences between the ALP and the LNP were superficial and semantic, but there you go

It's possible that living in NSW where the Libs and the Other Libs are on a unity ticket wrt to continued coal mining, tax breaks, contestable funding for VET and most privatisations that aren't the ones the ETU are losing their poo poo over has coloured my reactions somewhat.

It's because this thread is full of capitalists who are happy just to see the problem shuffled away from them. When you live in luxury on 55/a year + you find it difficult to hear criticism of the party that represents your interests.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

asio posted:

It's because this thread is full of capitalists who are happy just to see the problem shuffled away from them. When you live in luxury on 55/a year + you find it difficult to hear criticism of the party that represents your interests.

Hi asio

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

The OZ posted:


THERE is one barnacle that the Abbott government needs to get rid of immediately: the rule that any director on a government board who was appointed by the previous Labor government will not be reappointed.

The decree, apparently issued by Prime Minister Tony Abbott and/or his chief of staff Peta Credlin and binding on all cabinet ministers, was publicly confirmed yesterday by the chairman of CSIRO, Simon McKeon.

He was speaking at an Australian Institute of Company Directors lunch that I was hosting. I asked the question of him because I had heard about the rule from the chairman of another federal government commission.

That chairman had told me he had attempted to get three members of his board reappointed this year, telling his minister that in each case they were good directors who contributed much to the organisation.

The minister apparently apologised, but said his hands were tied: they could not be reappointed because they were Labor appointees.

McKeon, a former Australian of the Year and Macquarie Group veteran, yesterday confirmed that, because he had been appointed chairman of CSIRO during the ALP’s term of government, he had been told that he would not be reappointed when his term ends in June.

Dr Nora Scheinkestel, a director of Telstra and a member of the Takeovers Panel, also confirmed the existence of this rule at yesterday’s AICD lunch.

Both Scheinkestel and McKeon said they disagreed strongly with this practice, as did the other company director on the panel, Graham Kraehe, chairman of BlueScope Steel, and a former director of NAB and the Reserve Bank.

And indeed, it is a totally ridiculous idea — childish even — and is becoming a growing problem between the Coalition and the business community.

“After all,” said Simon McKeon, “Labor was in power for six years. Virtually everybody currently serving on the boards of government bodies was either appointed or reappointed while Labor was in power. If Abbott persists with his policy, there will be a full clean out of directorships.”

More and more directors of government bodies are now coming up for reappointment — many of them supporters of the Coalition, and often doing it for philanthropic motives — and instead they are being booted off for no other reason than they happened to be appointed during a Labor government.

They are, understandably, offended at the suggestion that they are partisan in any way, or that they are ALP fellow travellers.

If Tony Abbott doesn’t drop this rule soon, relations between his government and the director community will break down irretrievably.

Apart from the offence caused to the directors, it confirms that the PM and his office are consumed with some kind of medieval notion of reprisal, or that they think that the world is comprised only of allies and enemies, and that anyone who appears to be a friend of their enemy must be an enemy.

The practice does neither the government nor the country any credit, and needs to be abandoned immediately.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

That's a :munch: opportunity if there ever was one. Hidden away in the business section too.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
For more hosed up future I present

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009


Really can't find an analogy more appropriate for this kind of unflinching uniform partisan cronyism than literal Stalinism, which is hilarious. Excited for the next level when appointees are sent to Gina's internment camps after their terms expire.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009




Laying mines for the future. Even when they're gone they'll have installed enough worms to cripple departments. Gwb did the same when he filled the justice department with liberty university alum.

thatfatkid
Feb 20, 2011

by Azathoth

Jonah Galtberg posted:

It takes a special kind of loving stupid to find a way to criticise the ALP and be wrong

Sorry i don't follow the groupthink of the thread lockstep. :shrug:

Night Shade
Jan 13, 2013

Old School
I know this is a couple pages back now, but

Auspol April - A cynical attack against good posting

Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

by Lowtax
IT'S A SHAM

A BLOODY SHAM

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Guards! Scuffle awkwardly with that man!

Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

by Lowtax
communism is

Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

by Lowtax
wait what the gently caress wrong THREAD

UGH

i unveil my BREASTS

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

In line for the cull

markgreyam
Mar 10, 2008

Talk to the mittens.

thatfatkid posted:

groupthink

I call BINGO! I'd been waiting for that one for ages, I thought I was a shoe-in to win when my card had that in the centre square. It took longer than I thought.

Still talking junk food? Beware the dangers of Big Pizza ; http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-03-03/junk-food-s-last-stand-the-pizza-lobby-is-not-backing-down (e: American focused but whatever)

Sulla Faex
May 14, 2010

No man ever did me so much good, or enemy so much harm, but I repaid him with ENDLESS SHITPOSTING

markgreyam posted:

I call BINGO! I'd been waiting for that one for ages, I thought I was a shoe-in to win when my card had that in the centre square. It took longer than I thought.

Still talking junk food? Beware the dangers of Big Pizza ; http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-03-03/junk-food-s-last-stand-the-pizza-lobby-is-not-backing-down (e: American focused but whatever)

:nms: that filth please

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008
The no reappointment rule is just more proof that labor offering positions to conservatives is loving idiotic because it never results in reciprocity when the other side wins power.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

markgreyam posted:

I call BINGO! I'd been waiting for that one for ages, I thought I was a shoe-in to win when my card had that in the centre square. It took longer than I thought.

I'm still waiting for "echo chamber." :(

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

markgreyam posted:

I call BINGO! I'd been waiting for that one for ages, I thought I was a shoe-in to win when my card had that in the centre square. It took longer than I thought.

Still talking junk food? Beware the dangers of Big Pizza ; http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-03-03/junk-food-s-last-stand-the-pizza-lobby-is-not-backing-down (e: American focused but whatever)

The K-Rudd chatting away in the top right hand corner...

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil

Gough Suppressant posted:

The no reappointment rule is just more proof that labor offering positions to conservatives is loving idiotic because it never results in reciprocity when the other side wins power.

If the coalition is going to be spiteful to the point of cutting off their own nose just appoint enough coalition directors just to poison their best people with possiblity of "left wing bias"

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

norp posted:

If the coalition is going to be spiteful to the point of cutting off their own nose just appoint enough coalition directors just to poison their best people with possiblity of "left wing bias"

Worked with noted communist Mark Scott

Asphyxious
Jun 25, 2012

I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life.

QUACKTASTIC posted:

Guards! Scuffle awkwardly with that man!

:laffo:

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai
Ricky Muir's maiden speech is worth a full listen

Gentleman Baller
Oct 13, 2013

Quantum Mechanic posted:

I didn't actually think it was that controversial that the differences between the ALP and the LNP were superficial and semantic, but there you go

It's possible that living in NSW where the Libs and the Other Libs are on a unity ticket wrt to continued coal mining, tax breaks, contestable funding for VET and most privatisations that aren't the ones the ETU are losing their poo poo over has coloured my reactions somewhat.

Agreed thats why I vote 1 greens 2 lnp. No real difference so who cares

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


markgreyam posted:

Still talking junk food? Beware the dangers of Big Pizza ; http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-03-03/junk-food-s-last-stand-the-pizza-lobby-is-not-backing-down (e: American focused but whatever)

For gently caress's sake.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Gentleman Baller posted:

Agreed thats why I vote 1 greens 2 lnp. No real difference so who cares

You should vote 1 Greens, 2 PUP to reward the courage displayed by comrade Clive in his attempts to get Tony to kill heself.

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

Sulla-Marius 88 posted:

Also I don't know if this has changed recently but NSW was gutted and its alcohol problem exacerbated massively by overly strict and self-defeating liquor licensing laws which meant that small bars and restaurants couldn't serve alcohol, couldn't attract customers and only the big battery farm booze factories were available, which saw no need to invest in nonalcoholic entertainment because they already had a monopoly on the customer base

This is from a while back now but I just wanted to clarify - the ridiculously overpriced liquor license thing was changed 10 years ago (I'm pretty sure it was 2005 when it changed). Prior to that you had a limited number of licenses in the state, and they were exorbitantly expensive, meaning that the only way you could get one was to take it off somewhere else, and open a giant beer barn to do as much volume trade as possible.

Since the laws changed, a liquor license to serve alcohol with food available is I think about $200 or something, so there's been an absolute explosion in the number of small bars in Sydney. Sure, a lot of them are still owned by Merivale or Keystone, but a lot of them aren't. I believe the CBD ones are also exempt from the lock-out laws, but most weren't really effected since they tended to close at midnight anyway.

The lockouts have reduced assaults in the CBD/Cross area, at the cost of massively gutting late-night businesses (particularly in the Cross, a lot of the clubs and late-night bars have shut down). Amazingly, there's been a huge spike in both trade and assaults at the Star casino, which coincidentally is just outside the lockout area :monocle:

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Nationalise the pub!

Sulla Faex
May 14, 2010

No man ever did me so much good, or enemy so much harm, but I repaid him with ENDLESS SHITPOSTING
2005 that changed? Jesus. Almost getting to that time where I have to lop off a limb and count the rings

i got banned
Sep 24, 2010

lol abbottwon
Life never gets easier, we just imagine up obstacles for people throughout history even though living conditions improve. God forbid we all just live and do what we want with the use of technology.

gently caress this dumb planet.

I'm feeling particularly nihilistic today.

i got banned fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Mar 6, 2015

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


i got banned posted:

God forbid we all just live and do what we want

Libertarian spotted.

i got banned
Sep 24, 2010

lol abbottwon
Hardly, personal freedom is important but not at the detriment of the society you live in.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


i got banned posted:

Hardly, personal freedom is important but not at the detriment of the society you live in.

I know, I'm just shitposting.

You're absolutely right though. Class distinctions exist almost totally due to the fact we invent magical rules to stratify society.

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

Sulla-Marius 88 posted:

2005 that changed? Jesus. Almost getting to that time where I have to lop off a limb and count the rings

Actually it might've been 2007 now that I think about it. 2005 was when they banned smoking indoors at pubs/clubs.

Either way, the bar scene in Sydney now is a million times better than it was a decade ago. Even around where I live in Cammeray and Crows Nest there's small bars where you can go and have a feed and a couple of drinks, without a bunch of lager louts or poker machines propping up the business.

i got banned
Sep 24, 2010

lol abbottwon
Some people do really well some people end up being raped and tortured. The system works.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Capitalism means I can have something you don't and there's a whole library of books to justify why this has to be.

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Les Affaires
Nov 15, 2004

Endman posted:

I know, I'm just shitposting.

You're absolutely right though. Class distinctions exist almost totally due to the fact we invent magical rules to stratify society.

What? No they don't.

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