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forbidden lesbian posted:oh let me amend my previous statement; we really did not need a 6 mana worse gravepact Fortunately you get a worse gravepact attached to a 4/4 flier, so it's not that terrible for an uncommon?
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Angry Grimace posted:"Dragons dragons dragons nobody has more dragons than me!!" -Tarkir  Is this really going to be a cycle? How silly.
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Mar 7, 2015 01:47
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Swift Warkite seems alright. Would be a lot better if it had haste.
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forbidden lesbian posted:oh let me amend my previous statement; we really did not need a 6 mana worse gravepact I guess that's the idea of this cycle in general, although granting Dash to a creature that already has Dash isn't too amazing. Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Mar 7, 2015 |
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forbidden lesbian posted:oh let me amend my previous statement; we really did not need a 6 mana worse gravepact it's a limited card, probably not even the best in the cycle
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Starving Autist posted:Fortunately you get a worse gravepact attached to a 4/4 flier, so it's not that terrible for an uncommon? oh look at me, i uh thought it was rare for some reason 
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I imagine it's meant to be a way to help support Exploit in limited. it reanimates a creature tho! warkite can reanimate alesha even!
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Mar 7, 2015 01:53
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These will go great in my Peasant Multicolor Cube.
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Mar 7, 2015 01:55
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Oh I didn't notice it said graveyard, that is actually pretty cool for limited then.
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Mar 7, 2015 01:56
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Flashy cards are nice and all wotc, but let's see the meat and potato commons of draft plz
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Mar 7, 2015 01:59
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this will go great in my "anything with imperial recruiter" edh deck
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Is this the first time they've implied that MTG dragons that can talk don't just speak whatever the common language is? I mean, there's no reason why there wouldn't be a draconic language, I suppose, but something about this is registering pretty high on my Elvish Expression Meaning "Awkward Flavor Text" meter.
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Mar 7, 2015 02:04
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Rinkles posted:Flashy cards are nice and all wotc, but let's see the meat and potato commons of draft plz Commons are basically never spoiled, you get to wait for the full set spoiler on those.
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Mar 7, 2015 02:06
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They've used draconic tongue in UR stories for the past couple of weeks
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Mar 7, 2015 02:07
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I should have known you'd be the one to go to for Dragon Facts
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Hopping Ghost posted:Is this the first time they've implied that MTG dragons that can talk don't just speak whatever the common language is? I mean, there's no reason why there wouldn't be a draconic language, I suppose, but something about this is registering pretty high on my Elvish Expression Meaning "Awkward Flavor Text" meter. Maybe it's because he talks to other dragons in draconic and he's giving orders to that guy Or it's a reference to how bad the flavor text / flavor of Dead Drop was in KTK
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Angry Grimace posted:"Dragons dragons dragons nobody has more dragons than me!!" -Tarkir
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Hopping Ghost posted:Is this the first time they've implied that MTG dragons that can talk don't just speak whatever the common language is? I mean, there's no reason why there wouldn't be a draconic language, I suppose, but something about this is registering pretty high on my Elvish Expression Meaning "Awkward Flavor Text" meter. No, they've indicated they have "translators" for a while now. Dagathar talked to Dromoka through a human translator, Narset talks to Ojutai through a Aven translator and Silumgar talks to them through Naga and Rakshasa. It doesn't seem like Kolaghan and Atarka are particularly intelligent so they might not be able to.
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Zoness posted:Maybe it's because he talks to other dragons in draconic and he's giving orders to that guy I'm also imagining there are a bunch of dead people around him and they're just standing there smiling awkwardly because they have a feeling that Silumgar didn't just tell his dragon friends to go get them all some sodas but they can't be sure. EDIT: Angry Grimace posted:No, they've indicated they have "translators" for a while now. Dagathar talked to Dromoka through a human translator, Narset talks to Ojutai through a Aven translator and Silumgar talks to them through Naga and Rakshasa. It doesn't seem like Kolaghan and Atarka are particularly intelligent so they might not be able to. Fair enough! It still seems kinda weird to have it just tacked on the end of the flavor text like that, though. Johnny Landmine fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Mar 7, 2015 |
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rabidsquid posted:Commons are basically never spoiled, you get to wait for the full set spoiler on those. A few more examples of the keywords and the enablers/synergy cards would be nice, is all
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kolaghan doesn't have time to talk she's to busy going fast
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Hopping Ghost posted:Fair enough! It still seems kinda weird to have it just tacked on the end of the flavor text like that, though. Yeah, it seems super awkward and unnecessary. Like, are we really supposed to assume that everyone's speaking English and not some fantasy language?
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It's the classic clash between 'the audience needs to understand what's going on' and 'the characters need to have a language barrier for some reason / shouldn't speak English'. It's better to present everything in English because of the former, even if it makes the latter seem strange. MST3K mantra, everyone.
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Starving Autist posted:Yeah, it seems super awkward and unnecessary. Like, are we really supposed to assume that everyone's speaking English and not some fantasy language? So, draconic is a common fantasy language that dragons speak and/or is used for magical texts. From someone who has played Dungeons and Dragons it doesn't sound weird. Also fantasy English is usually called "Common".
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I'm not super excited for limited with these spoilers. Khans was fun at first but most of the time it devolves into a mexican standoff, and fate just added a bunch of giant bombs that are pretty boring. This set seems to be adding more of the same, except now there's enough flying bombs for everyone so it's back to players staring at each other and no one swinging.
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i think the official line is to assume everything has been translated into English for our convenience and that the planewsalkers just all know how to cast Rosetta Stone LV5
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Mar 7, 2015 02:28
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Ruthless Deathfang could be interesting but I think Swift Warkite won for most interesting use of clan bullshit today.
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I kinda like Savage Ventmaw with Temur Ascendancy out; free dragon and a cantrip? It's puuuuuure value! 
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:lol the "insert card is going in my edh deck" is the best thing about this thread Also Swift Warkite looks like a fun whip target in Jund reanimator
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From what we know, will there be another set of lands printed in Dragons? If so, is there any chance it could be the shardlands?
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Do you mean the shard trilands? There's no reason for them to be in there. It would be much less sensical than enemy fetches, even.
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JerryLee posted:Do you mean the shard trilands? I just want to try building 3 color decks that aren't wedges without dealing with terrible mana.
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JerryLee posted:Do you mean the shard trilands? Yeah, those land names are a bit too tied to the Alara shards, I think. It would make too little flavor sense. As for the uncommon Kolaghan dragon, I'm going to look forward to reanimating Alesha with it, then using Alesha's ability to reanimate something else  (in magical Christmas land)
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Starving Autist posted:Yeah, those land names are a bit too tied to the Alara shards, I think. It would make too little flavor sense. How are Arcane Sanctum and Crumbling Necropolis tied to Alara shards?
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Some Numbers posted:How are Arcane Sanctum and Crumbling Necropolis tied to Alara shards? Well, where the hell is there a sanctum on Tarkir, let alone an arcane one? Does Tarkir even have any seas to put a citadel next to? What I meant is that they don't really make sense on Tarkir.
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They only include fixing cycles below rare if it's needed for limited. For DTK, we're getting mana rocks that turn into dragons, I assume Keyrune style. There's no reason they'd have shard-based fixing in this set when there's nothing driving it flavor or mechanics wise.
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Starving Autist posted:Yeah, those land names are a bit too tied to the Alara shards, I think. It would make too little flavor sense. I meant more that there's zero reason for shard-colored lands to be in there in general, even with generic or Tarkir-specific names. If it were just a matter of fitting the names somewhere into Tarkir, that'd be less of an issue, but the lands would still make no sense. Arcane Sanctum would probably be an Ojutai monastery and why is it making black mana? I'm sure you can find both jungle shrines and crumbling necropoli in Silumgar territory but where is this red, white, and/or green mana coming from?
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JerryLee posted:I meant more that there's zero reason for shard-colored lands to be in there in general, even with generic or Tarkir-specific names. If it were just a matter of fitting the names somewhere into Tarkir, that'd be less of an issue, but the lands would still make no sense. Arcane Sanctum would probably be an Ojutai monastery and why is it making black mana? I'm sure you can find both jungle shrines and crumbling necropoli in Silumgar territory but where is this red, white, and/or green mana coming from? I agree, there are several reasons why it wouldn't make sense, I was just focusing on the names because I know WotC is very sensitive about that.
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Starving Autist posted:I agree, there are several reasons why it wouldn't make sense, I was just focusing on the names because I know WotC is very sensitive about that. Yeah, they are, but they're also quite down with reusing the names when it does make sense. Like with the allied fetches, actually. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they named the Alara trilands generically (rather than "Esper Sanctum" or whatever) so that they can potentially reuse them in a different setting someday.
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