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Graic Gabtar posted:The worst part about this whole thing is that the people in this thread and Australia on the asylum seeker advocacy band wagon are the ones doing the least and/or giving the least fucks about the tens of millions of displaced persons not able to buy their way out of alleged trouble. I hope you continue to sleep well and live a full happy life, knowing that your personal moral stance is dictated by the Murdoch press and Australian Government.
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Gough Suppressant posted:So Joe Hockey farted from his mouth the idea of allowing people to draw from their superannuation to use as a deposit on a first home. Dunno, I know it is a horrible idea to use super as a deposit, but then again who the gently caress wants to keep on living after retirement. Superannuation is wasted on the old 
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Ughh as a human rights advocate I can only shake my head, and hope that sometime soon Graic, you shall be in such a position where you are being physically and psychologically tortured and not one person will raise their voice to uphold you're BASIC HUMAN RIGHT to safety, because you're a parasitic germ. Yours truly, an Australian(ughh) with a loving moral compass calibrated to "I actually give a gently caress, dickhead". Piss off.
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You Am I posted:Dunno, I know it is a horrible idea to use super as a deposit, but then again who the gently caress wants to keep on living after retirement. Superannuation is wasted on the old I plan on using a house deposit merely as a means of funneling money from my super into buying anime games for tithin.
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Mar 7, 2015 02:00
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I agree Graic, the real issue is that Australia and other countries have such limited refugee and asylum programs. Millions more persecuted people should be able to live freely and without fear, so I'm all for getting the man from Tehran a place to stay in Tasmania. But I must disagree with your other point, I believe it is quite immoral and unethical to lock up some of them indefinitely in tropical murder-torture camps to please xenophobic voters.
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Mar 7, 2015 02:01
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Graic Gabtar posted:The worst part about this whole thing is that the people in this thread and Australia on the asylum seeker advocacy band wagon are the ones doing the least and/or giving the least fucks about the tens of millions of displaced persons not able to buy their way out of alleged trouble. I agree, we need to not just take whoever shows up here, but go outside our borders to help people around the world and bring them over much more proactively and in even greater numbers. Wait a minute, this seems to conflict with the idea that we should be blase about the bad treatment our smaller number of current refugees is getting! 
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Mar 7, 2015 02:01
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Gough Suppressant posted:I plan on using a house deposit merely as a means of funneling money from my super into buying anime games for tithin. Tink appears to have beaten you to this. I apparently own every anime game on steam thanks to their efforts.
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Mar 7, 2015 02:02
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tithin posted:Tink appears to have beaten you to this. I apparently own every anime game on steam thanks to their efforts. Even the fetish one you refuse to play?
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Mar 7, 2015 02:05
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Alternatively: Graic Gabtar posted:Shame about some poor oval office ALLEGEDLY hanging by his thumbs in Tehran. What're you so worried about this "alleged" trouble for, mate? It's just easier to accept that if it was really that bad over there, someone important would already be doing something about it, right?
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Mar 7, 2015 02:06
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Gough Suppressant posted:So Joe Hockey farted from his mouth the idea of allowing people to draw from their superannuation to use as a deposit on a first home. A solution that causes additional new problem without addressing the original issue? Yeah that sounds about right for Hockey.
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Mar 7, 2015 02:08
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Ratbag Ciarg is Aussiemandias.
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Mar 7, 2015 02:11
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tithin posted:I hope you continue to sleep well and live a full happy life, knowing that your personal moral stance is dictated by the Murdoch press and Australian Government. Copy/paste winner right here Ladies and Gentlemen. The Murdoch press is mostly laughable. Sorry to tell you though that the "Australian Government" lives beyond the hopefully quick demise of the Abbott circus. Expect successive Governments to have to exact same position on this.
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Mar 7, 2015 02:12
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What is the point you are trying to make anyway? These people do not deserve sympathy because... Other bad things happen elsewhere? They aren't at the very bottom of the pile?
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No you dense idiot Biafauxen, you see the advocacy industry in the country is alledging these things to support themselves! It's corruption! These things aren't really happening, it's the sjw cirlcejerk greenwank in this country draining money form you and me - hard working aussie battlers - to sip lattes and play steel drums! Wake up hseepl1!!!! It makes me happy to see that the views leading this country down the rabbit hole are actually reprehensible 
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katlington posted:A solution that causes additional new problem without addressing the original issue? Yeah that sounds about right for Hockey. Muppet Baby Government.
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katlington posted:A solution that causes additional new problem without addressing the original issue? Yeah that sounds about right for Hockey. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxdda_nNecY
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Graic Gabtar posted:Copy/paste winner right here Ladies and Gentlemen. Oh, you're right on that last part. But that's not precisely a vindication of policy, given that it's being done to appeal to xenophobic fuckwits. The question I'm hinting at oh so subtly, is why you find the torture of a people who desperately require aid to be an acceptable course of action? Hint: it's because you're a caricature of an Australian Conservative, who doesn't actually exist. You are a figment.
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Graic Gabtar posted:The worst part about this whole thing is that the people in this thread and Australia on the asylum seeker advocacy band wagon are the ones doing the least and/or giving the least fucks about the tens of millions of displaced persons not able to buy their way out of alleged trouble. It's really strange, isn't it, how a stance against accepting asylum seekers can be motivated by a deep and abiding care for the people we AREN'T helping, and that translates into policies that support torturing asylum seekers instead of expanding our humanitarian program. Don't act like you give even a hint of a poo poo about the guy hanging by his thumbs in Tehran.
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tithin posted:Oh, you're right on that last part. But that's not precisely a vindication of policy, given that it's being done to appeal to xenophobic fuckwits. The funniest thing about this is that I sit in this thread agreeing with probably more than 95% of the views people have but as soon as I dare divert one iota from the sheeple script I'm Satan himself.
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Graic Gabtar posted:The funniest thing about this is that I sit in this thread agreeing with probably more than 95% of the views people have but as soon as I dare divert one iota from the sheeple script I'm Satan himself. Because the "one iota" on which you divert is that Australia should happily and openly imprison and torture people who've not committed a crime. It's kind of like "why are you calling me a monster? I agree with everything you say, I just also think black people are subhuman and good only for slave labour!" If your "one iota" was, say, the effectiveness of corporate taxation, it might be different, but you're literally saying you're fine with us operating concentration camps and torturing people.
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Graic Gabtar posted:The funniest thing about this is that I sit in this thread agreeing with probably more than 95% of the views people have but as soon as I dare divert one iota from the sheeple script I'm Satan himself. *ahem* allegedly agreeing.
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Graic Gabtar posted:The funniest thing about this is that I sit in this thread agreeing with probably more than 95% of the views people have but as soon as I dare divert one iota from the sheeple script I'm Satan himself. As someone who's actively been attacked itt because of a deviation from the script, and who is therefore not a sheeple himself by your definition, I'm not saying you're Satan himself, I'm saying your moral compass is hosed. Your hyperbole is neither needed nor wanted. Quantum Mechanic posted:Because the "one iota" on which you divert is that Australia should happily and openly imprison and torture people who've not committed a crime. It's kind of like "why are you calling me a monster? I agree with everything you say, I just also think black people are subhuman and good only for slave labour!" tithin fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Mar 7, 2015 |
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Allegedly deviating from the script.
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tithin posted:As someone who's actively been attacked itt because of a deviation from the script, and who is therefore not a sheeple himself by your definition, I'm not saying your Satan himself, I'm saying your moral compass is hosed. I simply think the nature of the discussion here on asylum seekers can be quite shallow as it simply defaults to the pointless "literally torture" meme every time.
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oh sure well if tortures so bad why do labor and liberal like torture so much??? maybe we're the fuckwits e: lol
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"how do we know parasitic advocates didn't make up reza berati and hamid kehazaei to get more cash???"
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Seagull posted:you know two people have died preventable deaths in the camps right Agree. If people didn't riot one person would likely be alive. If medical processes were more effective (and hopefully are now) one person would likely be alive.
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Mar 7, 2015 02:51
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GAR- BAGE ALL- EGED DICK
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Graic Gabtar posted:I simply think the nature of the discussion here on asylum seekers can be quite shallow as it simply defaults to the pointless "literally torture" meme every time. I understand all of these words individually, but concentrated in this order they make 0 sense.
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tithin posted:I understand all of these words individually, but concentrated in this order they make 0 sense. Maybe we are getting to the nut of the problem. You only understand the memes.
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Who among us can truly say they have never fallen foul of the hivemind? For some, it may be bike helmet policy. For others, concentration camps. Live and let die, I say, esp if those dying are filthy brown-skinned protesters being held on a remote island against their will and all conventions of international law. Let's have a nice time joshing with our friends about the roly-poly world of politics, safe in the knowledge that there is no such thing as society.
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Graic Gabtar posted:Agree. I left a baby in a tiger's cage and the tiger ate it. If only the tiger was better behaved or we had the technology to revive a partially digested baby.
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Graic Gabtar posted:Maybe we are getting to the nut of the problem. You only understand the memes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3pLDrZQTf8
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Graic Gabtar posted:Maybe we are getting to the nut of the problem. You only understand the memes. No, no, that can't be it. Here, how about we make this nice and easy. Please enunciate your opinion in such a way that will disprove these "memes" (or, facts, as they are more commonly known). I promise I will give them due consideration, so long as they are verifiable.
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gently caress you i'm the metal gear guy
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I hope for a theoretical world where in you can be tortured for a few days(read; forever) to understand the toll it takes upon a human, you literal bag of poo poo. I secretly am hoping that you have your current barbaric stance thanks to walking in on your parents mid gang-bang with a group of middle-aged afghani refugees and secretly being ashamed they didn't ask if you wanted to partake/film.. gently caress off, idiot. Have fun finding your bed tonight with that loving moral compass of yours, you god drat slug. *Also you mentioned the classic bullshit line of "I bet half of you refugee advocates don't even do any advocating besides arm-chair advocacy etc".. Such a load of poo poo, thank you for discrediting the work I've previously done in the defence force advocating for humans freedom to live without fear of death, and countless hours volunteering my time working with disadvantaged men/women from all walks of life that are trying to live in this country populated by hate-filled fuckheads like you. You are the problem, you are what is dragging this country down so much further in that big ol' barrel of poo poo. gently caress off.
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open24hours posted:I left a baby in a tiger's cage and the tiger ate it. If only the tiger was better behaved or we had the technology to revive a partially digested baby. Did the tiger really even exist? Maybe the baby did it for attention.
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