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Oh good let's put the matchup of two Abzan decks on camera instead of any of the actually interesting matches going on.
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Mar 8, 2015 21:56
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Lancelot posted:magic has so much diversity Sleeves vs. no sleeves is pretty diverse.
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Mar 8, 2015 21:59
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an_mutt posted:Any goon trip reports from GP Liverpool? I did horrible in the main event, but did well enough in side events that I picked up more bits for my Modern deck - which I proceeded to pilot well enough to win a draft set of Shards block. Anyone else there who did cool poo poo over the GP weekend? Trip Report- First ever Sealed REL event and the time to make the deck goes really fast! Hastily constructed a reasonably okay abzan deck with tasigur and a lot of warriors and a chief of the scales. Looking back, my red was way stronger than I thought and I should have probably gone jund. Went to time 2 games out of the 6 I played, going 3-2-1 and drop for side events, the dream died pretty quickly when I realized I was packing like 3 removal spells in the deck (1 abzan charm, 1 harsh sustenance and 1 deb injury) and the stalemates generally ended when their bomb turned up (My rares in my pool was tasigur, trap essence, monastery siege, temporal trespass, trail of mystery and something else not in my colours) and I didn't have a answer to it. Later on played 2 chaos drafts, both polar opposites to each other, the first one I won with an absolute pile of cards featuring skullclamp (thank you darksteel pack) and proceeded to use the 160 prize points on 16 khans boosters which I will keep for later. £13 for a draft and 16 packs, not bad. The second chaos draft I had to drop after drafting because I suddenly realized my channel fireball bag got stolen in between drafts  went to lost and found and they didn't have it and it pretty much ruined my weekend. No GP promo now :/ Managed to get the CFB tokens off a friend as a gesture of kindness though, which was nice of them.Sunday morning I went to the vendors and finished off my Kangee foil EDH deck and my Maelstrom Wanderer EDH deck and then proceeded to get home before the rush, got home a few hours later. Overall the experience was great but definitely stained by some absolute assholes, both playing against and the ones who stole my stuff.
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Mar 8, 2015 22:05
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Count Bleck posted:Literally what Formidable is as a mechanic, win more as gently caress and ferocious is better. I think it's actually worse than the Naya "mechanic", or the more recent Ferocious. At least those affect your deckbuilding choices in a meaningful way, e.g. Ferocious wants you to get out a single 4-power creature asap, which otherwise wouldn't be something you'd make a priority and which encourages you to give extra weight to creatures with exactly 4 power while deckbuilding. Formidable just says "Yeah, your RG deck should be playing creatures, having more total power is good I guess but it doesn't matter how it's distributed". But my RG decks always want to have lots of creature power on the table; how does Formidable change that at all? JerryLee posted:And yes, a lot of the mechanics lately are seeming Agreed. It also feels like the most  mechanics tend to be ability words (or keywords-that-are-basically-ability words). If I tell you a card has flying, or delve, or bushido 1, then you understand what the card does. But if I tell you that a card has formidable, or tribute, or inspired, then you still don't really know what the card does. It's a lot easier to come up with printable ability words than printable keywords because the looser mechanical connection makes them easier to staple onto whatever cards you want, so when they start scraping the bottom of the barrel to pad a set's mechanic count, ability words are usually what ends up being phoned in.
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Mar 8, 2015 22:06
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Sorin, Ugin and Narset go back to Zendikar, banish the Eldrazi, random block, a few random blocks later, somebody kicks out the Phyrexians from Mirroden. Few more random blocks, Phyrexian Eldrazi come out of no where, calling right here. Is anyone else worried we're going to hit the anime-esque matryoshka doll villains singularity, where there's always someone else bigger?
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Mar 8, 2015 22:10
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JerryLee posted:One of the best things about the new block structure is they can do RtZ and still do two new settings in the same year. For me, the two previous Return blocks (not counting Time Spiral, obviously) had the problem that while it was neat to take a peek back at them, it wasn't "I'm happy to have nothing fresh and new for an entire year" levels of neat. i feel like New Phyrexia was a pretty big shake-up but i am biased because that was the block i started playing so i was not used to the whole third act fucks up the plane that wizards had been doing for a while
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Mar 8, 2015 22:15
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Are either of the two Mono-Red lists the Boss Sligh/Akroan Crusader type or the slightly slower versions with Mardu Scout and Outpost Siege?
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Mar 8, 2015 22:18
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MySwan posted:Sorin, Ugin and Narset go back to Zendikar, banish the Eldrazi, random block, a few random blocks later, somebody kicks out the Phyrexians from Mirroden. Few more random blocks, Phyrexian Eldrazi come out of no where, calling right here. Not really now they've limited the power of planeswalkers post-Mending. Having characters that are not all-powerful means it's relatively easy to come up with new villains that aren't increasingly more powerful than the ones before.
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Mar 8, 2015 22:19
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bhsman posted:Are either of the two Mono-Red lists the Boss Sligh/Akroan Crusader type or the slightly slower versions with Mardu Scout and Outpost Siege? One of them was on stream earlier and he definitely wasn't playing the version with Crusaders and Auras. It was Firedrinker, Foundry Street, Rabblemasters, Mardu Scout, burn spells, etc. Did not see any Outpost Sieges. Basically your straight-forward Mono-R. Also saw him win through an Anger of the Gods.
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Mar 8, 2015 22:21
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bhsman posted:Are either of the two Mono-Red lists the Boss Sligh/Akroan Crusader type or the slightly slower versions with Mardu Scout and Outpost Siege? Decklists are here: http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpmia15/top-8-decklists-2015-03-08 No Outpost Sieges but Heelcutters and Scouts in both lists.
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Mar 8, 2015 22:23
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qbert posted:One of them was on stream earlier and he definitely wasn't playing the version with Crusaders and Auras. It was Firedrinker, Foundry Street, Rabblemasters, Mardu Scout, burn spells, etc. Did not see any Outpost Sieges. Basically your straight-forward Mono-R. Lancelot posted:Decklists are here: http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpmia15/top-8-decklists-2015-03-08 Heelcutter? I'm intrigued already.
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Mar 8, 2015 22:28
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bhsman posted:Heelcutter? I'm intrigued already. Heelcutter did so much work on stream against a defensive Knuckleblade.
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Mar 8, 2015 22:30
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Having played something very similar to the top list today I think Heelcutter is actually pretty incredible in the current metagame. It's good against midrange because it blanks the big creature they're hoping to ride to victory, and it's good against control because it makes their sorcery speed wraths highly awkward (and does a good job of harassing their Planeswalkers). It only gets better post-board when they bring in their sorcery speed mini-wraths.
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Mar 8, 2015 22:34
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bhsman posted:Heelcutter? I'm intrigued already.
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Mar 8, 2015 22:35
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qbert posted:Heelcutter did so much work on stream against a defensive Knuckleblade. Nice. Irony Be My Shield posted:Having played something very similar to the top list today I think Heelcutter is actually pretty incredible in the current metagame. It's good against midrange because it blanks the big creature they're hoping to ride to victory, and it's good against control because it makes their sorcery speed wraths highly awkward (and does a good job of harassing their Planeswalkers). It only gets better post-board when they bring in their sorcery speed mini-wraths. Yeah, I've been running one in my Boss Sligh variant. He's a bit redundant compared to all the copies of Hammerhand but he's great for all the reasons you mention.
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Mar 8, 2015 22:36
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Lancelot posted:Yeah. There are more Heelcutters in the top 8 (4) than Islands (0). but G/W gains a lot of life, it's the worst Standard of all-time if you play red!!!
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Mar 8, 2015 22:39
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Turns out what we needed all along was a pair of common goblins with the Dash mechanic.
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Mar 8, 2015 22:43
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Niton posted:New(?) spoiler from SCG, weird as hell card: This will go great in my Extinction of the Dinosaurs EDH deck
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Mar 8, 2015 22:48
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rabidsquid posted:but G/W gains a lot of life, it's the worst Standard of all-time if you play red!!! Honestly I may be a little worried about G/W Devotion at this point, though I have yet to play against it. Irony Be My Shield posted:Turns out what we needed all along was a pair of common goblins with the Dash mechanic. Eh, I actually don't like Mardu Scout that much. Something like Lightning Berserker is what I preferred back when Fate Reforged was being previewed, so the fact that they actually printed it is great. Zurgo, too.
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Mar 8, 2015 22:48
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It's not good in Heroic/Pump spells deck, but it does work in the Creatures/Burn lists like the ones in that top 8. You can drop it normally and have it deal a good amount of damage by killing each blocker as they play it, or have it as a reusable burn spell against decks that are hanging back and trying to cast a wrath for value.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:It's not good in Heroic/Pump spells deck, but it does work in the Creatures/Burn lists like the ones in that top 8. You can drop it normally and have it deal a good amount of damage by killing each blocker as they play it, or have it as a reusable burn spell against decks that are hanging back and trying to cast a wrath for value. No, I get all that, but I still don't like the card. Would have preferred a 1RR cost/RR Dash for a 3/2 instead.  That 1 toughness means Mystics and a single Raise the Alarm/Mardu Charm token really devalue him.EDIT: Oh, awesome, both red decks are out of the top 4 and we didn't see a single one on camera. 
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Mar 8, 2015 22:57
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Oh gosh, two G/W devotion decks in the top 4. If we have a 2-hour long mirror match in the finals I'm sure Cedric will go insane.
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Mar 8, 2015 23:00
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I really love dash as mechanic. It is really good for red because it gives the creatures to evade wraths and sorcery speed removal, while also allowing them to remain aggressive. My list looks a lot like his though. Seeing how much work rabble master put in makes me want to pock up a pair.
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Mar 8, 2015 23:00
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Lancelot posted:Oh gosh, two G/W devotion decks in the top 4. If we have a 2-hour long mirror match in the finals I'm sure Cedric will go insane. I want them to follow through on their threat to just not cover the finals if it's a G/W mirror
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Mar 8, 2015 23:02
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bhsman posted:No, I get all that, but I still don't like the card. Would have preferred a 1RR cost/RR Dash for a 3/2 instead.
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Mar 8, 2015 23:04
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Trip report from gp Liverpool, ended 3-3 then dropped. I had 5 citadel sieges cast against me i should know I was playing onefighting through that card is nigh impossible  . I even got to experience having siege tapping my torrent elemental down for 6 turns whilst I drew 7 lands in a row during round 6 Did badly in the three chaos drafts I did and the evening sealed, but pulled some nice cards over the weekend and for my first gp I had a good time!
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The Abzan player just made a huge misplay not casting Banishing Light on Polukranos and he knows it. Edit: And then the G/W player doesn't play Whisperwood? What is this game. Edit 2: G/W Devotion mirror in the finals. Welp. qbert fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Mar 8, 2015 |
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Mar 8, 2015 23:32
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Lancelot posted:Oh gosh, two G/W devotion decks in the top 4. If we have a 2-hour long mirror match in the finals I'm sure Cedric will go insane. Prepare for insanity.
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Mar 8, 2015 23:43
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Entropic posted:Prepare for insanity.
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Mar 8, 2015 23:44
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Entropic posted:Prepare for insanity. This'll be the Magic equivalent of the heat death of the universe, and hopefully the latter slows down so we can see the end of this match first. EDIT: Cedric's ready 
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Mar 8, 2015 23:44
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qbert posted:The Abzan player just made a huge misplay not casting Banishing Light on Polukranos and he knows it. It's not a Legacy Miracles mirror, but it'll do in a pinch.
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Mar 8, 2015 23:44
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I look forward to finding out who the big winner is on Tuesday.
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Mar 8, 2015 23:45
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What archetype beats midrange again? I guess it's midrange because it isn't aggro.
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Mar 8, 2015 23:48
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At least one of the devotion players has Temur Sabertooth maindeck. Hopefully he draws it before turn 40.
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Mar 8, 2015 23:48
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Congratulations Wizards, the most midrangey deck of all time is the best deck in Standard.
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Mar 8, 2015 23:50
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bhsman posted:Congratulations Wizards, the most midrangey deck of all time is the best deck in Standard. But this time thanks to the mana it isn't Jund and Naya for a little bit!
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Mar 8, 2015 23:52
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rabidsquid posted:But this time thanks to the mana it isn't Jund and Naya for a little bit! I think I'd prefer the interaction a little more, but that's me.
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Mar 8, 2015 23:54
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Jesus Christ at least run Nylea or something.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Jesus Christ at least run Nylea or something. Doesn't support the "grind opponent into literal dust under weight of Manifest tokens" gameplan.
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