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GoutPatrol posted:Azban mirror. Your Rhinos and Rocs now kill theirs. It also makes Caryatid and Coursers effectively 3/3 and 4/4 respectively.
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You'd think Avatar is great for MonoG or GR but those decks want to play a Caryatid or a Voyaging Satyr on T2. I'm not sure...
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Mar 10, 2015 15:56
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JerryLee posted:Yeah that's a Portal level of
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Cernunnos posted:I think he was talking about stuff that doesn't see Eternal play. Otherwise, I think, we can add Brimaz to that list (I'm not sure what his pre-order price was). A fair point. But now that you mention it, has anything (eternal cards INCLUDED) broken the $25 mark at all? The last cards I can think of are from innistrad block. Is that a function of time? Will things from RtR block go up to $30+ in another set or two?
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deftest posted:A fair point. But now that you mention it, has anything (eternal cards INCLUDED) broken the $25 mark at all? The last cards I can think of are from innistrad block. Yes, because the set will no longer be opened and there will be people wanting cards from it that they don't have.
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It's too bad that Butt Party wasn't in Khans it would have been a super cool draft-around-me rare with stuff like Disowned Ancestor, the 0/5 and 0/6 blue morphs, Archer's Parapet, Sage-Eye Harrier, Sagu Archer, Dazzling Ramparts, etc. FRF has basically no walls, or any creatures at all with <3 power and >4 toughness execpt that one crappy black 2/6, and we've seen nothing good to go with it in Dragons so far. Still lots of commons left to spoil though, so fingers crossed.
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Mar 10, 2015 16:04
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That avatar is neat. Doran as an enchantment, also neat. I'm all for making combat math awkward. Those zombie tokens, though. 
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deftest posted:A fair point. But now that you mention it, has anything (eternal cards INCLUDED) broken the $25 mark at all? The last cards I can think of are from innistrad block. Elyv posted:Yes, because the set will no longer be opened and there will be people wanting cards from it that they don't have. It'll take a while though. The only things I can think of that will get there are Shock-Lands and Voice of Resurgence. And Voice will probably hit $30 before (a majority of) the Shocks even hit $20 (Steam vents is currently ~$13 Mid). E: How did I forget Abrupt Decay?  Probably because I don't play those colors. 
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Mar 10, 2015 16:08
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deftest posted:A fair point. But now that you mention it, has anything (eternal cards INCLUDED) broken the $25 mark at all? The last cards I can think of are from innistrad block. Abrupt Decay will end up at $30 in a couple years if there is no reprint. It is THE removal card for G/B/x decks.
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Those zombie tokens look like the offspring of Theros block Returned and that rear end in a top hat Dragonborn guy from the Skyrim DLC.
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Niton posted:I'm at an absolute loss of what to do with it, but I think this is a good card. You throw it in the wall tribal deck that this card is seeded for when it comes out in Return to Zendikar
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Entropic posted:It's too bad that Butt Party wasn't in Khans it would have been a super cool draft-around-me rare with stuff like Disowned Ancestor, the 0/5 and 0/6 blue morphs, Archer's Parapet, Sage-Eye Harrier, Sagu Archer, Dazzling Ramparts, etc. FRF has basically no walls, or any creatures at all with <3 power and >4 toughness execpt that one crappy black 2/6, and we've seen nothing good to go with it in Dragons so far. Still lots of commons left to spoil though, so fingers crossed. I feel like the real loss is that butt party isn't a creature cuz thats what made it really good the first time around. TheKingofSprings posted:You throw it in the wall tribal deck that this card is seeded for when it comes out in Return to Zendikar Pretty sure you mean treefolk tribal in Lorwyn 2.22: You Will (not) Return.
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Now that I think about it, that Doran's Butt Party enchantment makes basically every creature in Abzan beat your opponent's copy in the mirror. And that's without even taking the firebreathing into consideration. Now I want to brew some goofy deck with Sylvan Caryatids, Coursers, Nyx-Fleece Rams, Walls of Frost, Triton Tactics and Sigiled Starfish. The problem is that if you don't draw your enchantment your deck does nothing. e: Jeskai Barricade! Entropic fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Mar 10, 2015 |
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Entropic posted:
Does it not do anything or does it do nothing tho?
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Zoness posted:Does it not do anything or does it do nothing tho? The former, sadly.
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Entropic posted:Now I want to brew some goofy deck with Sylvan Caryatids, Coursers, Nyx-Fleece Rams, Walls of Frost, Triton Tactics and Sigiled Starfish. Just throw some Rhinos in there
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Mar 10, 2015 16:26
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I want a Wall of Blossoms reprint so bad now.
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Mar 10, 2015 16:30
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Entropic posted:I want a Wall of Blossoms reprint so bad now. I'd rather have Wall of Omens  .
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Mar 10, 2015 16:31
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I'd prefer Wall of Shards personally. 8 in the air by turn 3? Yes please.
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Mar 10, 2015 16:32
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How about Wall of Denial or a functional reprint because of shroud?
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Mar 10, 2015 16:34
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YeehawMcKickass posted:How about Wall of Denial or a functional reprint because of shroud? wall of denial owned, that card was easily my favorite before wall of omens was printed
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Mar 10, 2015 16:36
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I'd almost start sketching out a wall deck for modern, except I seemed to forget that Rolling Stones exists.
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Entropic posted:The problem is that if you don't draw your enchantment your deck does nothing. It doesn't actually do anything, but it does gum up the board until you can start swinging. And you have anticipate to dig for the enchantment. It's going to be a really stupid deck and I'm going to play the poo poo out of it.
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Boxman posted:It doesn't actually do anything, but it does gum up the board until you can start swinging. What I meant is that it does nothing on its own. You're spending a card to make your other cards way better, but by itself it does literally nothing. Like compare it to Doran as topdeck after a complete board wipe. The other thing it has going against it is that it doesn't meaningfully stack in multiples. You want 4 in your deck to make sure you draw it, but two in your opening hand is basically a mulligan other than having a backup in case of enchantment removal. Entropic fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Mar 10, 2015 |
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Mar 10, 2015 16:44
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Considering I just put together Modern Green Stompy and was excited to slam Garruk's Companion in there, I am quite excited to see a Garruk's Companion that gets a +1 counter off of an Experiment One.
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InterrupterJones posted:I'd almost start sketching out a wall deck for modern, except I seemed to forget that Rolling Stones exists. The problem is that most walls have very little power, making attacking with them unprofitable most of the time.
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Mar 10, 2015 16:49
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 Twerk-off  championship! 
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Boco_T posted:Considering I just put together Modern Green Stompy and was excited to slam Garruk's Companion in there, I am quite excited to see a Garruk's Companion that gets a +1 counter off of an Experiment One. This does not interact with X1 the way you hope it does.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:This does not interact with X1 the way you hope it does.
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InterrupterJones posted:I'd almost start sketching out a wall deck for modern, except I seemed to forget that Rolling Stones exists. Rolling Stones needs Doran to be uh "playable", the new Enchant is both in one! Put all 3 in the deck for redundancy, you'll be unbeatable 
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This guy's gonna be mad when he gets his photos developed and realizes his head is out of the frame.
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I like this. Good in early game, useful in late game. I may just abandon my Mardu Warriors tribal thing just for more aggro-y creatures that are good on their own accord.
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Mercury Crusader posted:I like this. Good in early game, useful in late game. I may just abandon my Mardu Warriors tribal thing just for more aggro-y creatures that are good on their own accord. I like this one a lot, but I don't think you want to cast any of them face up-- pikers are just not impressive in this Standard-- and while I am a fan of the extremely cheap Megamorph cost on this I don't think you particularly want to cast it face down either. A 4-mana 3/2 that might sometimes draw you a card is not really what aggressive red decks want to be doing. The green and white ones both provide value because you can manifest them off of Whisperwood Elementals or Mastery of the Unseens and then they provide card advantage for cheap.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:I like this one a lot, but I don't think you want to cast any of them face up-- pikers are just not impressive in this Standard-- and while I am a fan of the extremely cheap Megamorph cost on this I don't think you particularly want to cast it face down either. A 4-mana 3/2 that might sometimes draw you a card is not really what aggressive red decks want to be doing. The green and white ones both provide value because you can manifest them off of Whisperwood Elementals or Mastery of the Unseens and then they provide card advantage for cheap. I'm kind of looking at it from the idea of it walking past one blocker like a Caryatid, or potentially trading with two goblin tokens from an opposing Hordeling Outburst by turn three/four. The 4-mana 3/2 that sometimes draws a card is just kind of there if you get stuck in a later game. Otherwise, yeah, 2/1 for 2 ain't exactly the best aggressive card these days, but I don't remember any pikers that have the Goblin War Drums evasion ability so I'm thinking about weird edge cases. At the very least, it's better than Jeering Instigator. Mercury Crusader fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Mar 10, 2015 |
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Mercury Crusader posted:I'm kind of looking at it from the idea of it walking past one blocker like a Caryatid, or potentially trading with two goblin tokens from an opposing Hordeling Outburst by turn three/four. The 4-mana 3/2 that sometimes draws a card is just kind of there if you get stuck in a later game. Otherwise, yeah, 2/1 for 2 ain't exactly the best aggressive card these days, but I don't remember any pikers that have the Goblin War Drums evasion ability so I'm thinking about weird edge cases. At the very least, it's better than Jeering Instigator. War-Name Aspirant is a 3/2 for two that walks past Caryatid and Goblin Tokens all day e'rry day.
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InterrupterJones posted:I'd almost start sketching out a wall deck for modern, except I seemed to forget that Rolling Stones exists. TIL Rolling Stones will not let my Archers of Qarsi attack.
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Entropic posted:This guy's gonna be mad when he gets his photos developed and realizes his head is out of the frame. Gonna have to go back for retake day.
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Rimusutera posted:War-Name Aspirant is a 3/2 for two that walks past Caryatid and Goblin Tokens all day e'rry day. G/Rcounter synnergy might be a thing? between War name aspirant, scale guard sentinels, Ire Shaman and Den protector, there area lot of efficient-ish creatures at 2-3 mana. Hell, Avatar of the Resolute might even be able to do...something.
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War-name's evasion is pretty narrow and often becomes irrelevant quickly, wheras Ire Shaman can stay evasive as long as you can keep your opponent on one creature. That's not too unreasonable with how good red's removal suite looks after DTK.
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forbidden lesbian posted:Rolling Stones needs Doran to be uh "playable", the new Enchant is both in one! Put all 3 in the deck for redundancy, you'll be unbeatable Oh right, no power transfer. Assault Formation deck it is then! Though that may admittedly be equally as "playable" as a Rolling Stones deck anyway.
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