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I just want to play it with Jeskai Barricade and Triton Tactics.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:War-name's evasion is pretty narrow and often becomes irrelevant quickly, wheras Ire Shaman can stay evasive as long as you can keep your opponent on one creature. That's not too unreasonable with how good red's removal suite looks after DTK. I'd rather just roast and stoke the things I can and continue walking past Carytids, but I see your point. However, stats and mana wise, I see Aspirant as way more efficient.
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Mar 10, 2015 17:57
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Someone's gonna be pissed when they pull Butt Formation and the guys next to them pull giant gently caress-off dragons.
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Mar 10, 2015 18:19
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War-Name probably becomes a lot more viable in the face of token decks, which'll probably become more popular with the reprinting of Dragon Fodder.
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Mar 10, 2015 18:19
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Tree of Redemption calls to me, 13/13 beater for four + activation would be pretty.
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Mar 10, 2015 18:23
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When does cube come back up on MODO?
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Mar 10, 2015 18:40
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Thor-Stryker posted:Tree of Redemption calls to me, 13/13 beater for four + activation would be pretty. Don't forget to exchange its toughness with your life total first 
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Mar 10, 2015 18:41
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Rinkles posted:LR Spoilers This puts any Heroic creature out of Bile Blight and most burn range and then comes back and let's them swing for 5+ next turn. Not bad.
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Mar 10, 2015 18:51
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Planning to go to my first Standard tonight, put together a Sultai Control deck. How's this looking? Lands (25) 4 Opulent Palace 4 Polluted Delta 4 Jungle Hollow 3 Temple of Deceit 1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth 2 Yavimaya Coast 2 Llanowar Wastes 3 Swamp 2 Island Planeswalkers: (7) 2 Kiora 2 Ashiok 1 Ugin 1 Garruk, Apex Predator 1 Lilliana Vess Creatures: (5) 4 Satyr Wayfinders 1 Silumgar (maybe sideboard) Spells: (23) 4 Bile Blight 4 Dig Through Time 2 Thoughtseize 4 Hero's Downfall 3 Sultai Charm 2 Treasure Cruise 2 Disdainful Stroke 2 Crux of Fate Sideboard includes some number of Rakshasa Deathdealer, 2 Tasigur's, Pharika's Cure, drown in sorrow, standard sultai sideboard stuff. Any tips for playing or editing this? Played a decent amount in kitchen table battles against roommates who have some decently competitive decks, but since no one owns a Siege Rhino I imagine that'll be showing up. I'd like to throw another Ugin or Garruk in there too. What to keep and what to mulligan seems especially important for this deck (maybe in general, still a rather new MTG player), so tips there are also appreciated.
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Mar 10, 2015 18:52
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 defender, flying draw a card if you control or reveal a dragon. I dig it
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Mar 10, 2015 18:55
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I really hope they have some interesting rebound spells that aren't "pump a dude then pump again"
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Mar 10, 2015 18:55
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'Butt Party' is a really, really good name but everyone is missing the obvious and also excellent 'rear end Formation'
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Mar 10, 2015 19:00
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TheKingofSprings posted:I really hope they have some interesting rebound spells that aren't "pump a dude then pump again" That's probably the only pump one but I doubt we're getting anything exciting. Probably ones to give flying, unblockable and first strike till EOT.
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Mar 10, 2015 19:06
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mr. mephistopheles posted:This puts any Heroic creature out of Bile Blight and most burn range and then comes back and let's them swing for 5+ next turn. Not bad. That card is very good. It's a cheap effect with rebound and it triggers prowess twice. Terrific with Seeker of the Way or even better, Ojutai's Exemplars.
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Mar 10, 2015 19:13
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:
Wall of odragons seems comparable to wall of omens. Do want.
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Mar 10, 2015 19:16
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I really hope that says revealed from your hand
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Mar 10, 2015 19:21
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Zoness posted:Wall of odragons seems comparable to wall of omens. Do want. it's like wall of omens except much much worse.
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Mar 10, 2015 19:23
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mcmagic posted:it's like wall of omens except much much worse. It's a flying, conditional Wall of Omens. Stop talking out of your rear end, it's (probably) worse, but I wouldn't say it's much worse, in a set all about Dragons.
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Mar 10, 2015 19:25
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The name of the card is Orator of Ojutai (this is the card they referred to earlier when they were talking about things you could bring back with Command). Not a great card, but a pretty easy limited pickup if you have a few dragons around (0/4 flying defender for 2 is a good enough card on its own in limited)
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Mar 10, 2015 19:27
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It combos with Doran's Big Green Butt Party, that's all that matters.
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Mar 10, 2015 19:32
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Yet another flier that can't block Stormbreath Dragon. Yes, good. That said its a perfectly fine card in a set full of dragons.
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Mar 10, 2015 19:34
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I can't wait to talk everyone into Dragons/Fate/Khans draft so that I can force 5 color buttfight.dec
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Mar 10, 2015 19:34
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Have they really gone on record saying there are no cheap dragons in this set?
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Mar 10, 2015 19:36
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I think some of the dragons are definitely $0.50 cards so.
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Mar 10, 2015 19:38
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TheKingofSprings posted:Have they really gone on record saying there are no cheap dragons in this set? Yes, it's against the lore because dragons are formed full-grown from the tempests or w/e.
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Mar 10, 2015 19:38
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TheKingofSprings posted:Have they really gone on record saying there are no cheap dragons in this set? I think they've said there isn't a common cycle at least. Maybe there'll be a welp reprint? Edit: oh yeah forgot about the tempest thing for a second.
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Mar 10, 2015 19:38
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Entropic posted:Now that I think about it, that Doran's Butt Party enchantment makes basically every creature in Abzan beat your opponent's copy in the mirror. And that's without even taking the firebreathing into consideration. Um excuse me the proper term is clearly firefarting. 
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Mar 10, 2015 19:39
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TheKingofSprings posted:Have they really gone on record saying there are no cheap dragons in this set? quote:"We wanted to play up Dragon tribal not only in Constructed but also in Limited. The trick was how to make all of the Dragons awesome and yet have Dragons get passed around the table to a player or two who wants to play a bunch of Dragons and be rewarded for doing so. And then who's really going to want to play so many cards in a range of five to seven mana? Outside of Thunderbreak Regent, it doesn't seem so.
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Serperoth posted:It's a flying, conditional Wall of Omens. Stop talking out of your rear end, it's (probably) worse, but I wouldn't say it's much worse, in a set all about Dragons. The 1/3 guy from Fate that gains you 3 life is MUCH better than this. The decks that want this card don't run dragons. It's not constructed playable at all.
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Mar 10, 2015 19:43
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Non-spoiler question: Does Hero's Downfall see any play outside of Standard? I want a playset for a cheap mono-black control deck I'm building for Modern, but I don't know if they're more likely to go up or go down after Theros rotates.
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Mar 10, 2015 19:43
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They could probably get away with a shrunken-down Archwing Dragon (3/3 or so?) at uncommon since it had proto-Dash.
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mcmagic posted:The 1/3 guy from Fate that gains you 3 life is MUCH better than this. The decks that want this card don't run dragons. It's not constructed playable at all. I don't recall that being a condition of anyone's argument. Don't pass on a 2 mana 0/4 flier with tribal upside in a set named after said tribe. C-Euro posted:Non-spoiler question: Does Hero's Downfall see any play outside of Standard? I want a playset for a cheap mono-black control deck I'm building for Modern, but I don't know if they're more likely to go up or go down after Theros rotates. Personal wild speculation: I think they'll just reprint Hero's Downfall a lot as generic black removal. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Mar 10, 2015 |
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Serperoth posted:It's a flying, conditional Wall of Omens. Stop talking out of your rear end, it's (probably) worse, but I wouldn't say it's much worse, in a set all about Dragons. In the set all about Dragons that has what appears to be one constructed playable dragon, and in a format that will see that number bumped up to an incredible 3 constructed playable dragons, I would say it's much, much worse. E: I should probably clarify that I give zero fucks about limited in all forms so
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Mar 10, 2015 19:45
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Yo these spoilers suck let's talk about what we really want: Dual-face basics in Battle for Zendikar. also wall of omens
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C-Euro posted:Non-spoiler question: Does Hero's Downfall see any play outside of Standard? I want a playset for a cheap mono-black control deck I'm building for Modern, but I don't know if they're more likely to go up or go down after Theros rotates. I don't think so, no. Not a whole lot of planeswalkers get played in Modern, the only ones I can think of are like, Karn, maybe Koth? Ugin sees some play in the not RG Tron variants? Edit:,Oh right, Lilly Veils, how could I forget the bane of hands everywhere Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Mar 10, 2015 |
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C-Euro posted:Non-spoiler question: Does Hero's Downfall see any play outside of Standard? I want a playset for a cheap mono-black control deck I'm building for Modern, but I don't know if they're more likely to go up or go down after Theros rotates. Depends how good Narset ends up being in modern.
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C-Euro posted:Non-spoiler question: Does Hero's Downfall see any play outside of Standard? I want a playset for a cheap mono-black control deck I'm building for Modern, but I don't know if they're more likely to go up or go down after Theros rotates. It's a format where Abrupt Decay is the king of removal and only a handful of Walkers even see play (mostly Liliana's, which also dies to Abrupt Decay  ) so no, not really.It's the same with Dreadbore, both are good cards but Abrupt Decay is just better in general.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Have they really gone on record saying there are no cheap dragons in this set? I think they've confirmed that there's no dragons at common (boo), 3 two-color cycles of dragons at uncommon, rare, and mythic and two mono-color cycles at uncommon and rare, which makes 25 dragons all told, with probably a few more thrown in at rare. None of them cost less than 6 mana at uncommon, and the only rare that's less than 5 is the one red one. C-Euro posted:Non-spoiler question: Does Hero's Downfall see any play outside of Standard? I want a playset for a cheap mono-black control deck I'm building for Modern, but I don't know if they're more likely to go up or go down after Theros rotates.
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TheKingofSprings posted:In the set all about Dragons that has what appears to be one constructed playable dragon, and in a format that will see that number bumped up to an incredible 3 constructed playable dragons, I would say it's much, much worse. Ah, that explains what's wrong with you. Limited is the best type of magic in existence.
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Zoness posted:Yo these spoilers suck let's talk about what we really want: If they do Full-art Basics for the set do you think they'll re-use the old art or get new ones? I want them to re-use the old ones cause I love the Véronique Meignaud ones but I don't think they will.  Maybe they'll call her up again?
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