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magpie
Apr 28, 2006

Polikarpov posted:

I did that once, on my first trip. All I got back was profanity.

I guess something was wrong. :downs:

Oh god, during my last blackout the chief mate jokingly asked the cadet to call down and ask the engineers when the AC would be back on. Had to hold the guy back from going for the phone.

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DGib
Jan 22, 2010
I used to be an executive fine dining chef. Now I'm the chief cook on ships. People call me chief and I make almost double my salary and only work 6 months a year.

Paying for those overpriced safety courses was the best thing I've ever done.

flashman
Dec 16, 2003

DGib posted:

I used to be an executive fine dining chef. Now I'm the chief cook on ships. People call me chief and I make almost double my salary and only work 6 months a year.

Paying for those overpriced safety courses was the best thing I've ever done.

Whoever you are sailing with are lucky fellows. I have had a string of real winners as cooks.

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
I sailed on a bulky with a British lad who was a Fine Dining Chef for years before making his way to sea. Even with the loving terrible standard of stores that ship got, he still made a real good job of making some great food and did the best with what little he had. The guy on the other swing... fish sticks and pies for breakfast errday yolo

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

flashman posted:

Whoever you are sailing with are lucky fellows. I have had a string of real winners as cooks.

There was a relief cook going around the company who'd show up on whichever boat he was on that month to find out the fryer was out of order and the parts were on order. The parts would always show up a day after he left. Goddamn that guy was terrible.

How can you gently caress up hot dogs, seriously?

Had another guy who'd spend his entire days smoking on the poop deck, or so it seemed. Meal time would come and he'd set down this beautifully presented plate of food that would have been more at home in a $30-a-plate restaurant. If for some reason you didn't like it, he'd pick it up, go back to the galley and come back with something completely different, to the same standard, in like five minutes. Galley was always loving sparkling too, don't know how he did it.

flashman
Dec 16, 2003

I've got a crossbreed of your two, doesn't leave the smoke room and couldn't boil a potato to save his life. Thank god for prepackaged frozen foods because we'd starve to death.

DGib
Jan 22, 2010
Man that sounds like poo poo. The guys always say I'm the best cook they ever had but I always just thought they were being nice because I help on deck and stuff when I dont have to. Here's some maple bacon donut burgers I made a few months ago. I'm pretty proud of them because I made the donuts myself in 5 metre seas. Also, some other fancy bullshit. For a bunch of guys who think they're big tough guys they sure do love fine dining.







Currently laid off now too so if you guys know of anyone looking for a marine cook with all his papers you can feel free to ignore my post and never tell me about it ever.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
:stare: mother of god

DGib
Jan 22, 2010
Also the rule on the ship was "it's not actually a burger unless it's a double"

I hope that all the crew continue to live by that rule in their home lives as well.

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth

DGib posted:

I help on deck and stuff when I dont have to.



Just curious, how does that go down? What do you mean by "help out on deck"? What does that include?

Only asking because that wouldn't go down well where I come from.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
I had a cook help with mooring stations once because we were down to a single deckhand.

Otherwise, yeah, grievances and nonconformities ahoy.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Are you on white boats by any chance?

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth

FrozenVent posted:

I had a cook help with mooring stations once because we were down to a single deckhand.

Otherwise, yeah, grievances and nonconformities ahoy.

One ship I was on the bosun completely lost his poo poo when the steward stepped outside of the storeroom into Burma Road to pick up a box during stores. Also god forbid he should take out his own rubbish :psyduck:

pazrs
Mar 27, 2005

Sludge Tank posted:

Just curious, how does that go down? What do you mean by "help out on deck"? What does that include?

Only asking because that wouldn't go down well where I come from.

We had no steward on the Surenes (Thorco Asia) and an IR would play steward for the day. Matter of time before they let them loose in the kitchen!

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth

pazrs posted:

We had no steward on the Surenes (Thorco Asia) and an IR would play steward for the day. Matter of time before they let them loose in the kitchen!

Don't most smaller offshore boats put the 4x8 IR on peggy/steward duties? I did a swing on a chase boat where that was the case.
I've sailed with a guy who said there's been no cook or steward on ships he's worked on and the boys took turns to cook.

Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Mar 11, 2015

DGib
Jan 22, 2010

Sludge Tank posted:

Just curious, how does that go down? What do you mean by "help out on deck"? What does that include?

Only asking because that wouldn't go down well where I come from.

Oh really? Huh, the guys here like that they're getting any kind of help, all the captians I've worked for like it too.

When I'm not too busy I'll help the guys paint, or scrape off old paint. I help tie up when we dock and help splice new lines and stuff like that. I like doing physical labour so I took an interest in stuff like that pretty quick. I'm pretty mechanically inclined too so I like to go down in the engine room with the engineers and help them out when they need an extra set of hands, etc. I try to just help people when I have down time.

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth

DGib posted:

Oh really? Huh, the guys here like that they're getting any kind of help, all the captians I've worked for like it too.

When I'm not too busy I'll help the guys paint, or scrape off old paint. I help tie up when we dock and help splice new lines and stuff like that. I like doing physical labour so I took an interest in stuff like that pretty quick. I'm pretty mechanically inclined too so I like to go down in the engine room with the engineers and help them out when they need an extra set of hands, etc. I try to just help people when I have down time.

What country are you working in? What kind of ship?

Here in Oz that kind of thing wouldn't go down well at all. The reason being that because of "cost cutting", de-manning has put a lot of people out of work here. So if you find a cook or a steward out on deck or in the engine room it's seen as pretty bad because they've sacked someone because they supposedly don't need him any more, and then let a cook do that guys work. "2 guys for the price of 1".Idk, union stuff.

With the increasing foreign ships operating here on our coast a lot of union guys have been put out of jobs, down to, like I said, deck guys working in the galley and doing stewards duties, or getting stewards out on deck to help with tying up/letting go, which is funny considering how much emphasis is put on proper training for that kind of poo poo.

I'm pretty sure most of the guys here are mates or engineers and not Australian, so probably don't have as much of an issue with this kind of stuff nor probably care. I'm just a pleb so I see hear about this stuff a lot. Like I said before about the bosun having a barney with the steward for stepping outside of his "normal work area" to help with the stores. If extra help is needed on deck or you're finding catering staff outside helping the deck crew, maybe they should have kept that IR job they removed last EBA.

As I said, just union stuff. I don't know what the job market in shipping is like where you are, or even what the working environment is like, but here it's getting pretty cut-throat among the union crowd and that kind of stuff would just cause untold amounts of bullshit.

Anyway, if you're working on a white boat or trawler or something disregard everything I just said.

Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Mar 11, 2015

DGib
Jan 22, 2010

Sludge Tank posted:

What country are you working in? What kind of ship?

Here in Oz that kind of thing wouldn't go down well at all. The reason being that because of "cost cutting", de-manning has put a lot of people out of work here. So if you find a cook or a steward out on deck or in the engine room it's seen as pretty bad because they've sacked someone because they supposedly don't need him any more, and then let a cook do that guys work. "2 guys for the price of 1".Idk, union stuff.

With the increasing foreign ships operating here on our coast a lot of union guys have been put out of jobs, down to, like I said, deck guys working in the galley and doing stewards duties, or getting stewards out on deck to help with tying up/letting go, which is funny considering how much emphasis is put on proper training for that kind of poo poo.

I'm pretty sure most of the guys here are mates or engineers and not Australian, so probably don't have as much of an issue with this kind of stuff nor probably care. I'm just a pleb so I see hear about this stuff a lot. Like I said before about the bosun having a barney with the steward for stepping outside of his "normal work area" to help with the stores. If extra help is needed on deck or you're finding catering staff outside helping the deck crew, maybe they should have kept that IR job they removed last EBA.

As I said, just union stuff. I don't know what the job market in shipping is like where you are, or even what the working environment is like, but here it's getting pretty cut-throat among the union crowd and that kind of stuff would just cause untold amounts of bullshit.

Anyway, if you're working on a white boat or trawler or something disregard everything I just said.

I'm from Canada. I just work on tugs and and offshore supply vessels.

Man, that's sounds horrible actually. There's no unionization in any of the companies I've worked for so I guess that could be the main contributing factor to me being able to do as I like. Its strange too because maritime Canada is usually super unionized but not really that much in the marine shipping industry.

afen
Sep 23, 2003

nemo saltat sobrius

afen fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Mar 12, 2015

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

DGib posted:

I'm from Canada. I just work on tugs and and offshore supply vessels.

Man, that's sounds horrible actually. There's no unionization in any of the companies I've worked for so I guess that could be the main contributing factor to me being able to do as I like. Its strange too because maritime Canada is usually super unionized but not really that much in the marine shipping industry.

Except for Lower Lakes Towing and the offshore business in Newfoundland, isn't pretty much everyone unionized? Guild for the licensed, SIU for everyone else (except the old Upper Lakes fleet, that was... CAW?)

DGib
Jan 22, 2010

FrozenVent posted:

Except for Lower Lakes Towing and the offshore business in Newfoundland, isn't pretty much everyone unionized? Guild for the licensed, SIU for everyone else (except the old Upper Lakes fleet, that was... CAW?)

I'm from newfoundland and I only really know of Rigel Shipping thats "proper" unionized. Perhaps I've just never seen it. I've only worked for a few different companies but I never really hear any talk of unions.

flashman
Dec 16, 2003

Maersk and Secunda are both union in the offshore here, Atlantic Towing (Irving subsidiary) is not. Even the coastal tankers going up to Labrador/Arctic run by Woodwards are union here, although weirdly when I was there everyone was SIU including officers.

Polikarpov
Jun 1, 2013

Keep it between the buoys
Welp one of our winches is down so we're pulling some lines in with a forklift. loving ROS ships are so broke-rear end.

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth

Polikarpov posted:

Welp one of our winches is down so we're pulling some lines in with a forklift. loving ROS ships are so broke-rear end.

I was on a cape sized bulky and going into port with pilot on board we had a complete blackout in the channel and the hydraulic lines on deck exploded everywhere. The emergency generator also failed as well as the emergency steering etc. We had absolutely nothing, no lighting, no radar, no nav lights etc etc. Total blackout.

Pilot called out 4 tugs which we had to tie up by hand at lightship with whatever loving ridiculous freeboard that was, and let go as well to drag us back out to sea to drift until all the poo poo was sorted out. Even with all the IR's on deck and the 1/E and 2/M out helping heaving those lines was unbelievably hard and slipping them was almost harder again.

quote:


I'm from Canada. I just work on tugs and and offshore supply vessels.

Man, that's sounds horrible actually. There's no unionization in any of the companies I've worked for so I guess that could be the main contributing factor to me being able to do as I like. Its strange too because maritime Canada is usually super unionized but not really that much in the marine shipping industry.

What's horrible, the unionisation or the employment scenario?
It's kind of a double edged sword that's come from probably equal mix of over-ambitious union negotiating and just sheer profiteering by companies.
I'm an institutionalised unionist so I see the reasoning behind the behaviour I described before, as ridiculous as it probably sounds.

What kind of hours/swings/trips do those tugs you're on do? I don't know anything about tugs but I've never heard of one having a cook on board. Do you guys like go far out to sea or something?

e: sorry for my endless shitposting. I'm coming up to the 4 month mark and getting profusely bored. Another 4 weeks and it's sweet freedom baby.

Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Mar 12, 2015

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

flashman posted:

Maersk and Secunda are both union in the offshore here, Atlantic Towing (Irving subsidiary) is not. Even the coastal tankers going up to Labrador/Arctic run by Woodwards are union here, although weirdly when I was there everyone was SIU including officers.

Yeah Woodward is SIU across the board. SIU does officers and land based as well as unlicensed seamen... poo poo when CMOU imploded they were all over the engineers (who ended up going guild in the end)

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

make's u think

Stuck at meba Calhoon for the week. At least there's a bar in the dormitory.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Joining on thursday as 3/e on a seismic support vessel. Bit of a change from my last job :)

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

Sludge Tank posted:

What country are you working in? What kind of ship?

Here in Oz that kind of thing wouldn't go down well at all. The reason being that because of "cost cutting", de-manning has put a lot of people out of work here. So if you find a cook or a steward out on deck or in the engine room it's seen as pretty bad because they've sacked someone because they supposedly don't need him any more, and then let a cook do that guys work. "2 guys for the price of 1".Idk, union stuff.

With the increasing foreign ships operating here on our coast a lot of union guys have been put out of jobs, down to, like I said, deck guys working in the galley and doing stewards duties, or getting stewards out on deck to help with tying up/letting go, which is funny considering how much emphasis is put on proper training for that kind of poo poo.

I'm pretty sure most of the guys here are mates or engineers and not Australian, so probably don't have as much of an issue with this kind of stuff nor probably care. I'm just a pleb so I see hear about this stuff a lot. Like I said before about the bosun having a barney with the steward for stepping outside of his "normal work area" to help with the stores. If extra help is needed on deck or you're finding catering staff outside helping the deck crew, maybe they should have kept that IR job they removed last EBA.

As I said, just union stuff. I don't know what the job market in shipping is like where you are, or even what the working environment is like, but here it's getting pretty cut-throat among the union crowd and that kind of stuff would just cause untold amounts of bullshit.

Anyway, if you're working on a white boat or trawler or something disregard everything I just said.

Welcome to USA shipping.

Talking to the foreign crew, the chief engineer makes 1/3 of what I'm making as a 2nd. He also told our 3rd engineer that he could re-use the frozen barrel/plunger from the DG fuel pump he was overhauling by sticking a shim in it somehow. I guess if you get a bonus for spending money you make questionable decisions.

The company just pushed the reflag back again for two weeks. They are just going to have the foreign crew stay on. They are going to get a 28 fay turnover. Luckily, they get 9.25/day/man for food so our food budget went up. We only get 9.

Trench_Rat
Sep 19, 2006
Doing my duty for king and coutry since 86

Two Finger posted:

Joining on thursday as 3/e on a seismic support vessel. Bit of a change from my last job :)

one of those dedicated weird miniature OSV support vessels or a full size OSV?


edit: remember to trade porn when you are doing a side by side re-fueling operation

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





she's 61m, this is my first time on these kind of boats so no idea if that's a full size or not

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
Any Aussies here know what the deal is with barbells (gym) on ships on Oz coast?
I can't find anything on google and the old man isn't sure either, a few of the guys on here want to get a barbell and a squat rack. They have freeweight dumbbells here. Last ship I was on had a smiths machine that had the cables removed so it was a freeweight squat rack and had no issues in calm weather.

Are they outright not allowed? I can see safety reasons being a concern.

e: sorry I'm asking about Olympic barbells, not little dumbbells

Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Mar 17, 2015

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
They're allowed in Canada, for what it's worth,

pazrs
Mar 27, 2005

Sludge Tank posted:

Any Aussies here know what the deal is with barbells (gym) on ships on Oz coast?
I can't find anything on google and the old man isn't sure either, a few of the guys on here want to get a barbell and a squat rack. They have freeweight dumbbells here. Last ship I was on had a smiths machine that had the cables removed so it was a freeweight squat rack and had no issues in calm weather.

Are they outright not allowed? I can see safety reasons being a concern.

e: sorry I'm asking about Olympic barbells, not little dumbbells


Had em on every aussie bluewater ship I've been on. Barbells that is, we did deads on deck. Never had a rack. Including BP Tankers who made us blunt the tips of steak knives and changed the ships bowls because they were too large and apparently encouraged over eating.

Oh and it was also suggested at one point to load test the ships bell, in case it's shackle failed and it stuck someone.

Trench_Rat
Sep 19, 2006
Doing my duty for king and coutry since 86

Two Finger posted:

she's 61m, this is my first time on these kind of boats so no idea if that's a full size or not



here is an example of a purpose built seismic support vessel usually 40-50 meter LOA


Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
^^ I was on a seismic ship a few years ago that was an old 83 build rig tender converted to seismic. It was run by Seabird. Terrible ship. 3rd world accommodation. Get on the noggy ones if you can. The accommodation on those things is like a spa resort

pazrs posted:

Had em on every aussie bluewater ship I've been on. Barbells that is, we did deads on deck. Never had a rack. Including BP Tankers who made us blunt the tips of steak knives and changed the ships bowls because they were too large and apparently encouraged over eating.

Oh and it was also suggested at one point to load test the ships bell, in case it's shackle failed and it stuck someone.

Yeah I said if all else fails we could just knock up a rack in the ER workshop and hide it out on the back deck. I really need to get back into training.

They said they had trouble getting the dumbbells because safety and the company opted for the ones with the hexagonal/flat sided shaped ends to stop them rolling in weather. I'm hoping we can get something similar in plates.



Also LOL @ the bowl thing. :psyduck:

Trench_Rat
Sep 19, 2006
Doing my duty for king and coutry since 86

Sludge Tank posted:

^^ I was on a seismic ship a few years ago that was an old 83 build rig tender converted to seismic. It was run by Seabird. Terrible ship. 3rd world accommodation







PGS Titan has an inndoor sports court



Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
This isn't a gripe specific to the marine industry or even APM itself, but online job application sites suck. I filled out each profile page, submitted my resume, got a confirmation of application, bit I swear half the pages reset themselves. My status is "In Process". Does that mean, APM is in the process of reviewing my application? I'm in process of applying? Who knows

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth

Trench_Rat posted:

PGS Titan has an inndoor sports court





OMS asked me to join one of the Ramform ships a couple of years ago. Having done seismic work before I wasn't super excited but said ok. They told me the job wasn't for a couple of months. GO rang me not soon after and offered me a job that came up sooner, needing the money I took it and turned down the OMS job.

Jumped on the GO boat, Nautika Pride, tiny, nothing on it. falling apart. chief engineer cracked the sads and walked off when we went into dampier halfway through our swing. 5 weeks of mind melting loving boredom on the chase boat following around the Ramform ship I was originally asked to join by OMS. Old man laughed when I told him I was originally supposed to be on the Ramform and brought up some pics on the internet of the accommodation to show me what I was missing out on :emo:

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hogmartin
Mar 27, 2007
Is there still any call for a dedicated radio operator, like a guy who knows electronics, propagation, and morse code? Or in the age of digital satellite communications is that something that's been rolled into a collateral job for someone else like a navigator/quartermaster? I've talked to a few old hams who were radio operators on ships and rigs decades ago who said that GROL and radar are pretty manageable if you can get an Extra class amateur license. Is that still a viable or desired specialty, or is the idea of a dedicated radio/comms operator a hilarious steampunk anachronism?

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Polikarpov
Jun 1, 2013

Keep it between the buoys

hogmartin posted:

Is there still any call for a dedicated radio operator, like a guy who knows electronics, propagation, and morse code? Or in the age of digital satellite communications is that something that's been rolled into a collateral job for someone else like a navigator/quartermaster? I've talked to a few old hams who were radio operators on ships and rigs decades ago who said that GROL and radar are pretty manageable if you can get an Extra class amateur license. Is that still a viable or desired specialty, or is the idea of a dedicated radio/comms operator a hilarious steampunk anachronism?

The only ships I know of that still carry Radio Officers are Military Sealift Command and government charters, and that's for managing/maintaining their encrypted commo systems and internal LAN.

Pretty much every mate has a GMDSS Operator cert for day to day operation of the suite.

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