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I was mostly just happy that the fight didn't go on for too long. If every fight is 2 or 3 updates at most (and probably just a in-panel note for some), the tournament will move quickly.
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I have no time for deus ex machina but I had no problem with this chapter. It wasn't a bullshit twist to get the writer out of a corner, but the introduction of a plot element in a low-stakes situation so it can be redeployed and developed later without being a deus ex machina. This was the first round of the competion, against someone Deku has barely interacted with. Of course he wasn't going to lose. I'm also liking Shinsou. I expect he's not really a bad guy, just resentful of (through no fault of his own) having a quirk that a lot of people will automatically hate and mistrust. And his being a huge tool all fight is tactically vital for him since getting a rise out of his opponent is the only way he can win.
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Mar 9, 2015 23:34
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More importantly, Deku has barely used one for all, and certainly not in a manner that is well noticed. So question, does he somehow win without everyone noticing he has Hercules strength leading to people going "wtf is this guys quirk?".
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Peel posted:I have no time for deus ex machina but I had no problem with this chapter. It wasn't a bullshit twist to get the writer out of a corner, but the introduction of a plot element in a low-stakes situation so it can be redeployed and developed later without being a deus ex machina. This was the first round of the competion, against someone Deku has barely interacted with. Of course he wasn't going to lose. Deku would actually be a good partner for him because Shinsou could order him to do smashes that Deku wants to do but physically would have difficulty pulling off due to pain.
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Peel posted:I have no time for deus ex machina but I had no problem with this chapter. It wasn't a bullshit twist to get the writer out of a corner, but the introduction of a plot element in a low-stakes situation so it can be redeployed and developed later without being a deus ex machina. This was the first round of the competion, against someone Deku has barely interacted with. Of course he wasn't going to lose. Yeah, while they gave us a cliffhanger last chapter this whole thing was basically entirely to introduce this aspect of One For All, plus to develop the world and minor characters a bit and stuff (pointing out that Yueii has problems with things like the entrance exam and sure as heck isn't the perfect place Deku imagined it to be, giving Shinsou some depth, and so on). It'd have been much worse to introduce this sort of thing in the middle of a fight with a real villain or something. Also yeah, Shinsou's a lot more interesting than I thought he'd be. He's up there with Bakugou or even maybe Todoroki in terms of general quirk power (robots are a weak point but against most villains he'd probably just end things without anyone getting hurt even), but due to the nature of it he not only couldn't get into the "good" class (which is clearly favored and doted upon, even if teachers like Aizawa can also be crazy in how they teach them) but probably has to deal with all sorts of crap. And yet he didn't go full rear end in a top hat like Bakugou either; we haven't seen much of him admittedly but I don't think he's been abusing his power on other people or anything. Basically, these past few chapters we've been getting a look at all the special ways a world where everyone has super powers would be hosed up. First Todoroki's family issues, and now this.
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Mar 10, 2015 01:04
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Shinsou's quirk would be awesome for hostage negotiation. As long as he can get the hostage-taker to answer him, the hostage is as good as saved. Or he could work as a liaison with the police and temporarily stop villains so the police can slap on handcuffs and arrest them on the spot. And yeah, I'm really liking how the author is exploring the flaws of a hero-based society. Shinsou's dickish attitude even makes more sense, since it's resentment towards the chosen ones mixed with him laying the grounds to use his power.
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Mar 10, 2015 01:41
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AtomikKrab posted:More importantly, Deku has barely used one for all, and certainly not in a manner that is well noticed. Also because I kinda wanna see him fight Iida and Bakugou again.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:05
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I like how the fight ended quirkless, and was therefore basically two skinny teenagers slapping each other  .
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Mar 10, 2015 07:23
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Except one of those "skinny teenagers" is loving ripped.
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Mar 10, 2015 07:27
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They fixed the lovely typesetting if that was bothering you too, by the way. Also seems like they improved on the translation some and clarified what was going on with the One for All thing, though that might've just been me having poor reading comprehension.
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Mar 10, 2015 07:31
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Nah, they definitely tidied-up the One For All bit. Comes off as less of a deus ex machina now since Deku actually saves himself, One For All just stalls him long enough to realize what he has to do.
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Bad Seafood posted:Nah, they definitely tidied-up the One For All bit. Comes off as less of a deus ex machina now since Deku actually saves himself, One For All just stalls him long enough to realize what he has to do. You mean the translation on batoto? Because that definitely reads like One-For-All saved him.
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Mar 11, 2015 11:02
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RatHat posted:You mean the translation on batoto? Because that definitely reads like One-For-All saved him. I read it that way in the WSJ version too
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Mar 11, 2015 19:36
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Why bother cleaning it if it's just going to look worse?
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Mar 11, 2015 19:41
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Thanks for further validating my Jump subscription.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:47
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And this is why you should support official releases. Something similar happened with a Toriko chapter and I was so confused.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:53
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So, nevermind the one eyed idea (seriously? They cleaned that out?), but it does look like that the author actually has some vague idea of designs in his head anyway.
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Mar 11, 2015 20:28
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I'm just curious as to see if they ALL have All Might's glorious hair and/or smile.
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Mar 11, 2015 20:39
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Astro Nut posted:So, nevermind the one eyed idea (seriously? They cleaned that out?), but it does look like that the author actually has some vague idea of designs in his head anyway. Yeah, the one-eyed one confused me, and additionally I was confused at first because it looked like Black Mist was making another appearance, which seemed way too soon.
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I do like how they foreshadowed that deku is the 9th wielder of one for All, and how they incorporated All-might into the shadow faces.
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RatHat posted:You mean the translation on batoto? Because that definitely reads like One-For-All saved him. The way I read it, felt like One For All just brought him to a halt; Deku snapped himself out of it by breaking his own fingers. The original came across like One For All assumed direct control and took care of everything. Still kind of a saving throw, but a more marginal one.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I'm just curious as to see if they ALL have All Might's glorious hair and/or smile. I found another cleaner version. 
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Spoilers for chapter 34: Endeavor is apparently a Pokemon player who hunts for perfect IVs because he had multiple kids before he lucked out with Todoroki. Also the author shows his range with some really, really, REALLY awesome looking art that's pretty different from the rest of the manga so far. He has some great range!
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Hopeford posted:Spoilers for chapter 34:
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Algid posted:Wouldn't it be breeding for perfect IVs? I mean, I imagine 6IV's the goal here, Todoroki is probably some kind of mixed attacker.
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Mar 14, 2015 01:24
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Chapter is out. very  regarding Shinsou,very  regarding Todoroki.
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Mar 15, 2015 17:59
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The one thing that stands out is Endeavor mentioning Todoroki's brothers. That means Todoroki wasn't the first child. Only the first successful one. Jesus loving Christ Endeavor. I'm happy for Shinsou.
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Mar 15, 2015 18:16
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So far I think this tournament arc has been really boring. Deku gets caught in a Quirk that he was given a ton of warning about, then Deus Ex Machina's his way out of it to win. Son of Ice and Fire just OHKO a guy in 1 chapter without any issues. The characters talked so much about a Deku/Ice and Fire fight that I thought we were being prepared for an upset. So barring a villain interruption (which would be a lift straight from Naruto) then so far everything has happened as expected. That being said its still early on, so lets hope the B-Listers can redeem this arc (which they will cos their awesome)
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Mar 15, 2015 19:11
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DeadBonesBrook posted:So far I think this tournament arc has been really boring. Dude it's been two chapters. I can't think of a single tournament arc in any manga I've ever seen that's been super interesting in just two chapters. (bar One Piece and the exploits of Lucy)
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Mar 15, 2015 19:26
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Dude it's been two chapters. I can't think of a single tournament arc in any manga I've ever seen that's been super interesting in just two chapters. (bar One Piece and the exploits of Lucy) You accidentally misspelled the name there. The exploits of Moocy.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Dude it's been two chapters. I can't think of a single tournament arc in any manga I've ever seen that's been super interesting in just two chapters. (bar One Piece and the exploits of Lucy) I actually have thought this tourney arc has been quite interesting. Also that mind controllers determination to use his powers for heroics 
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Mar 15, 2015 19:50
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Reminds me my old tabletop character, Doctor von Evilstein. He got told so many times he would end up as an evil mad scientist that he decided to "SHOW THEM' SHOW THEM ALL!" and become the greatest hero ever.
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Mar 15, 2015 20:12
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The author is good at being self-aware with these things (as well as how much of an rear end-pull the last chapter could seem, given Deku's reaction to the explanation). But yeah, thinking on it, there'd probably be certain biases towards particular powers due to popular culture, wouldn't there? Not just in certain powers being thought of more in their capacity for evil or whatever, but say, how more straightforward abilities - that is, the kind of thing more associated with the most iconic heroes, so super strength, speed, flight, etc - would be seized upon whilst someone might look at 'makes sticky balls' and just laugh it off.
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Mar 15, 2015 20:38
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Dude it's been two chapters. I can't think of a single tournament arc in any manga I've ever seen that's been super interesting in just two chapters. (bar One Piece and the exploits of Lucy) I dunno, Yu Yu Hakusho, and Flame of Recca were good quickly
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Dexo posted:I dunno, Yu Yu Hakusho, and Flame of Recca were good quickly Haven't heard of Flame of Recca before, might check that out. I have seen Yu Yu Hakusho though and the tournament arc in that is easily the worst part of the whole series.
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Mar 15, 2015 20:48
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SatansBestBuddy posted:I have seen Yu Yu Hakusho though and the tournament arc in that is easily the worst part of the whole series. Which tournament arc do you mean?
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Mraagvpeine posted:Which tournament arc do you mean? It's like the entire 2nd season.
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Dr_Amazing posted:It's like the entire 2nd season. The joke is that there are multiple tournaments in Yu Yu Hakusho.
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