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olof 24-6 hahaha does Na'Vi even count as a pro team anymore?
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There are legit ways to run a tournament within the time constraints that would be decent alternatives. For example, winner/loser bracket, or a single bracket with byes for the winning teams from the groups, while the losers of the groups eliminate each other in bo3. Wouldn't even add that much time.
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Mar 12, 2015 17:20
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so is cobble a t map now?
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Get your pro racing gamer chair branded to support your favourite teams: http://www.dxracer.net/art81_dxracer-chair-fnatic-edition.html e: lower the sensitivity of the hydraulic lift for best results. also the back rates can be adjusted up to 150°
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Jeza posted:There are legit ways to run a tournament within the time constraints that would be decent alternatives. For example, winner/loser bracket, or a single bracket with byes for the winning teams from the groups, while the losers of the groups eliminate each other in bo3. Wouldn't even add that much time. The point of the group stages is to eliminate teams, not have a giant exhibition pre-tournament
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Mar 12, 2015 17:26
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The reason why ESL/Valve use GSL BO1 group stages is that they want to stream as most of the matches. Something like 2 big round robin groups would be a lot better for the players (7 matches for each team), but then they could stream just a small fraction of the group stages.
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Smol posted:Something like 2 big round robin groups would be a lot better for the players how is making everyone play a bazillion games better for the players exactly? you mean better for the players who aren't consistent? there's really no reason counter-strike needs to be bo3, i get the appeal for finals and stuff like that but news flash, the teams play two halves on the same map. tough cookies if you're "really really good" but still get owned two games in your groupstage
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Mar 12, 2015 17:28
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I seriously want those pins. They should sell those online.
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Mar 12, 2015 17:31
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Ahdinko posted:Get your pro racing gamer chair branded to support your favourite teams: Yeah, but is the swivel rate 128 tick?
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Mar 12, 2015 17:33
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down with slavery posted:how is making everyone play a bazillion games better for the players exactly? you mean better for the players who aren't consistent? It would make sense if there was no variance, but there is drastic variance and luck involved in a CS match. The better team does not always win. The only reason bo3 exists is because of that fact. Like I said earlier, the winner of The International, who went on to convincingly win all their bo3 and bo5 matches, did inexplicably poorly in the bo1 group stage. If the tournament did not have a bunch of last-chance saloon provisions, the best team in the world at the time (p much indisputably) would have been eliminated before they even got to show off their stuff.
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Jeza posted:It would make sense if there was no variance, but there is drastic variance and luck involved in a CS match. The better team does not always win. The only reason bo3 exists is because of that fact. Like I said earlier, the winner of The International, who went on to convincingly win all their bo3 and bo5 matches, did inexplicably poorly in the bo1 group stage. If the tournament did not have a bunch of last-chance saloon provisions, the best team in the world at the time (p much indisputably) would have been eliminated before they even got to show off their stuff. there's no variance worth mentioning in cs:go, hth honestly I'd say the same about dota, they just play lots of games to please the fans, but there's nothing to suggest that losing a 30 round game in counter-strike has anything to do with "random" should they not cut golfers after the first two days? down with slavery fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Mar 12, 2015 |
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down with slavery posted:there's no variance worth mentioning in cs:go, hth Literally the biggest troll statement you've ever made. Pistol round alone is a huge source of variance and surely you'll admit that the winner of pistol round does not come down to whichever team is more skilled, there's a ton of randomness with pistols in this game. The best team does not always win a BO1. The best team doesn't always win a BO3 either, but it's a hell of a lot better a measure. FWIW I think that the group stages are okay as-is, there aren't enough elite-tier teams in CSGO to justify spending more time on it. Most often the teams that deserve to make it through to playoffs do make it, and the teams that don't deserve it don't make it. If all 16 teams were closer in terms of skill it'd be a problem, but I don't think anyone's making an argument that Titan got snubbed. real dilemma fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Mar 12, 2015 |
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real dilemma posted:Literally the biggest troll statement you've ever made. Pistol round alone is a huge source of variance and surely you'll admit that the winner of pistol round does not come down to whichever team is more skilled, there's a ton of randomness with pistols in this game. The best team does not always win a BO1. The best team doesn't always win a BO3 either, but it's a hell of a lot better a measure. haha no I actually completely disagree that pistol round is a "huge source of variance" put it this way, put titan against a random mm team of DMGs, they play 10 pistol rounds, who do you think wins more? how many "random" wins do you think a poo poo team can pull off exactly? and yes, if you're a half decent professional team, you better practice the hell out of pistols, because those rounds are the most important in the game. nothing about the pistols involves "luck", if anything the pistol rounds have LESS randomness than other rounds because everyone's starting on incredibly even footing
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boring troll boring troll BORING TROLL
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Mar 12, 2015 17:57
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I fully expect this thread to recognise vox as the superior team if they win this bo1
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also just a heads up but the point of a tournament isn't to determine which team is the best, it's a weeklong event where professional teams play against each other for a prize. you don't see tiger woods asking for extra rounds when the masters comes along. part of the FUN of the tournament is upsets, and good teams playing lovely and getting knocked out. we're not talking single elimination here, we're talking about a group stage where you play multiple games to decide whether you move on
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down with slavery posted:put it this way, put titan against a random mm team of DMGs, they play 10 pistol rounds, who do you think wins more? how many "random" wins do you think a poo poo team can pull off exactly? Except that's not the question; that's a stupid comparison. The real question is how many pistol rounds will Vox Eminor take off of fnatic? Fnatic is quite obviously the better team, but will they win a number of pistol rounds equal to the skill gap between the two teams? Will they win the same percentage of pistol rounds as they will gun rounds? I don't think so. Most pros don't think so.
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real dilemma posted:Except that's not the question; that's a stupid comparison. The real question is how many pistol rounds will Vox Eminor take off of fnatic? Fnatic is quite obviously the better team, but will they win a number of pistol rounds equal to the skill gap between the two teams? Will they win the same percentage of pistol rounds as they will gun rounds? I don't think so. Most pros don't think so. Well if they take less than 50% they should lose at least 1 pistol round which should put it in fnatics favor (if they are truly the superior "gun" team). If fnatic loses two pistol rounds to Vox Eminor, Vox is the better team that day and shouldn't have to beat them on 2 maps to please a bunch of idiot fans of a professional counterstrike team. down with slavery fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Mar 12, 2015 |
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Coming soon, BO3 Football World Cup
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haha titan. i havent caught any of their games for a while before this but i think maybe they should split up
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Maybe Navi will loose against vox and dropp out aswell  .
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Anybody watching through GOTV able to get the casters' audio? I have it set to On, but I can't hear anything.
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DarkMalfunction posted:I was just wondering: is the 7ms grey-to-grey of my monitor going to adversely affect my CSGO experience? Also bear in mind it's an IPS panel; I got it on the cheap, and am debating trading it in for an actual gaming monitor, if it's worth it. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews.htm This is about the only website that can tell you how non poo poo a monitor is. Most of the info is overkill, you can just read the summary sections.
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Lester Shy posted:Anybody watching through GOTV able to get the casters' audio? I have it set to On, but I can't hear anything. I read on reddit that the casters themselves (or their sound engineers) have been screwing up settings for broadcasting.
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http://www.twitch.tv/esl_pov2 - vox pov/comms
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Mar 12, 2015 18:29
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'diggity' = truck side/speedway on inferno in Australian 
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mcvey posted:'diggity' = truck side/speedway on inferno in Australian you bad calls make me sad mcvey.
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CLG about to run it back from down 13-2 on nuke
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Burgo posted:you bad calls make me sad mcvey. diggity \ 
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real dilemma posted:CLG about to run it back from down 13-2 on nuke There is no variance in nuke scorelines.
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mcvey posted:'diggity' = truck side/speedway on inferno in Australian "deagle" = tec9 btw
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drat you HR
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it's time for CLG to beat NIP. Dreams can come true can't they??
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Mar 12, 2015 18:53
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That is some pure loving heart right there. I love you CLG
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Waltchelg posted:it's time for CLG to beat NIP. Dreams can come true can't they?? It isn't too hard to envision a world in which 2 NA teams make the playoffs of this major... quote this later when neither do
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Lester Shy posted:If you get a drop from one of these streams, how do you know? Do you just get a notification the next time you load up the game? Yes, you get the "1 new item in inventory" next time you boot up csgo, there isn't any notification via twitch afaik. I got one from the last esl one cologne semifinal and I didn't notice until days later when I actually played the game. Ps if you get one from the cobblestone collection like I did SIT ON IT for a good long while before you sell. It was like $20 when it dropped, I eventually sold mine for $60 steambux, but the peak for it got up to like $100. All for a super low chance at a dragon lore (people are dumb). There's even more demand this time around and those packages are startin at around $40.
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The masters is played over 4 rounds, and has prelim rounds!!! The world cup has an extensive qualifying stage!!!!!!!!
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kcer posted:The masters is played over 4 rounds, and has prelim rounds!!! Which world cup?
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Burgo posted:Which world cup? There's more than one?
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Burgo posted:Which world cup? The one everyone gives a poo poo about.
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