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Wow, this thread got real poo poo real quickly. I find it amazing that everything Clarkson does becomes some kind of scandal, but I also find it amazing that people can't understand why he's seen as an abrasive moron. Honestly, that's about two thirds of his Top Gear persona. Sure, when you see him on QI or HIGNFY he's not nearly as obnoxious and brainless as he pretends to be, but Top Gear is his most public face besides maybe his godawful columnist work. He's intentionally an arsehole, and says things to see how far he can push the line. Would the show be any worse without things like those ridiculous jokes about Mexicans, which were frankly a kind of casual racism we don't even have in the UK? I'll admit his comment about the strikes was, in context, really loving funny, but he does sometimes overstep the line for no reason. I think it would be much less of a thing if the BBC didn't keep giving him "final" warnings. He'd just be your regular-grade television arsehole who says dumb things which sometimes aren't that funny. I'm less bothered by his actions than I am by this thread's sudden derails into rants about the Left that are practically detatched from reality, with language right out of The Second Amendment Defender's Handbook. And then, as an intermission, some tits. Are we pro-Murdoch or anti-Murdoch? And when are we going to get round to discussing England's chances in the next world cup? Yes, the Guardian hate Clarkson, that's part of their editorial stance and surprises nobody. Let's not use that as reason to declare that everyone who doesn't appreciate him correctly is an absurd overblown caricature of a Green party voter and wants to rid the entire country of cars, roads and buildings. Yes those people do exist, as does any other kind of idiot who bases their entire identity on what opinions they have and stand for, but that is by no means a "large subset" of the population. Alertrelic posted:Stu can explain. I don't think I'll ever be sick of seeing this. Although for some variety, try this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E87L3yN1aU8 To be honest I'm wondering if Clarkson saw this one, because it was a week or two before they had that really dumb conversation about foreigners driving on our roads and using motorway lanes incorrectly. But, of course, he can take a joke, and run with it too.
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I don't see why I can't hold the position that I really enjoy Top Gear, but despise racism and have zero tolerance for workplace violence.
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Mar 12, 2015 16:36
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Gorilla Salad posted:I don't see why I can't hold the position that I really enjoy Top Gear, but despise racism and have zero tolerance for workplace violence. Yeah, I want to continue to watch the large, shouty Englishman with bad opinions on my television, but on the other hand, punching a guy at work is not cool and deserves some sort of consequences.
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Gorilla Salad posted:I don't see why I can't hold the position that I really enjoy Top Gear, but despise racism and have zero tolerance for workplace violence. This seems sensible, count me in.
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Mar 12, 2015 17:50
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I have zero tolerance for anything other than zero tolerance as I find it intolerable
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Mar 12, 2015 18:33
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sigtrap posted:I have zero tolerance for anything other than zero tolerance as I find it intolerable Is that like everything in moderation including moderation?
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Mar 12, 2015 18:49
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El Jebus posted:Is that like everything in moderation including moderation? No, it just means he has no tolerance for people with tolerance. It's not a contradiction. 
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KillHour posted:No, it just means he has no tolerance for people with tolerance. It's not a contradiction. Ah, I misread it as zero tolerance for zero tolerance.
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Mar 12, 2015 18:56
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Mooseykins posted:
She would write a song about you being a oval office and she would be a boring missionary only in the dark style lay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ii_Q_taNBI Why is the only time I like Russel Brand is when he's being honest to himself about random poo poo "I like Clarkson but he's kind of a throwback"
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Mar 12, 2015 19:01
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sigtrap posted:I have zero tolerance for anything other than zero tolerance as I find it intolerable Reporting this for intolerance.
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El Jebus posted:Is that like everything in moderation including moderation? One of my dreams is to open a bar and call it "Moderation"
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Mar 12, 2015 19:40
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sbaldrick posted:She would write a song about you being a oval office and she would be a boring missionary only in the dark style lay. Yeah, i can live with that though. It beats getting nothing, and it's Taylor Swift, so lame sex or not, it'd likely still be pretty good. Sex is like pizza.
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Mar 12, 2015 20:16
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http://jalopnik.com/bbc-cancels-last-episodes-of-top-gear-season-amid-clark-1691093681
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Mar 12, 2015 20:34
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So punching underlings is frowned upon? What if they are morons that you can't fire because of the union? How do you not dodge a punch from a fat old guy? I need Ray Rice type of video proof.
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Mar 12, 2015 20:41
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EvilMoFo posted:http://jalopnik.com/bbc-cancels-last-episodes-of-top-gear-season-amid-clark-1691093681 I thought it was rather suspect that they would talk so openly about the state of the ongoing negotiations between Ferrari/Porsche/McLaren right on the air. Now we can see they never intended it to go down after all.
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Mar 12, 2015 20:51
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The fracas happened after that was taped. They made a fuss a couple weeks back about it on air about them being sticks in the mud about racing the cars, I don't see why mentioning progress would be an issue.
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How is the income handled at the BBC anyway? I mean it's a government owned station that brings in millions of moneys every year, is that money privately held or does it belong to the British people? I mean, if I was British, I'd be pretty pissed that my government is likely severing a pretty decent source of income over a fracas.
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Mar 12, 2015 20:58
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The BBC is publicly-funded, not government owned. One of the core reasons the BBC's funding is set up the way it is was specifically to avoid having them become just another government mouthpiece.
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Mar 12, 2015 21:01
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BBC probably read this thread and killed the show just to make it all stop.
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The government doesn't run the BBC. They have no actual say in how it's run beyond determining the size of the license fee.
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Mar 12, 2015 21:05
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But...but...that clip with Clarkson in a bouncing car, saying "what in God's name is happening"...might we never see that?
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Ola posted:But...but...that clip with Clarkson in a bouncing car, saying "what in God's name is happening"...might we never see that? Seriously, what a pain in the rear end the BBC is pulling the whole season. At least take all the bits that haven't aired and put them into a big special or something. edit: Oh god that's too funny, they finally get Porsche, Ferrari, McLaren to agree to a car race and the whole drat TV series implodes.
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Mar 12, 2015 21:08
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CornHolio posted:I mean, if I was British, I'd be pretty pissed that my government is likely severing a pretty decent source of income over a fracas. I'm pretty pissed over the word "fracas". What does it even mean? Is it a real word? I've never heard it before, sounds like some bullshit word made up to blow a minor even out of proportion. Don't know why they couldn't say fight/argument/disagreement/squabble/scuffle/whateverthefuckelseaslongasit'sarealfuckingword.
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Mooseykins posted:I'm pretty pissed over the word "fracas". What does it even mean? Is it a real word? I've never heard it before, sounds like some bullshit word made up to blow a minor even out of proportion.
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mod sassinator posted:Seriously, what a pain in the rear end the BBC is pulling the whole season. At least take all the bits that haven't aired and put them into a big special or something. They've said that they aren't broadcasting any of the scheduled future episodes of the current season, not that the extant footage will never be shown in some form.
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Mooseykins posted:I'm pretty pissed over the word "fracas". What does it even mean? Is it a real word? I've never heard it before, sounds like some bullshit word made up to blow a minor even out of proportion. It's like a ruckus.
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InitialDave posted:It means you had a bit of a barney, possibly to the extend of having a bundle over it. where does take the piss out fall on that spectrum (i'm american)
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mod sassinator posted:Seriously, what a pain in the rear end the BBC is pulling the whole season. At least take all the bits that haven't aired and put them into a big special or something. I was seriously excited about the cheap SUV challenge and watching them roll a Jeep Cherokee.
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So this means that the gentleman that Clarkson almost hit is now out of a job. It's pretty much lose-lose all around, isn't it? WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:I was seriously excited about the cheap SUV challenge and watching them roll a Jeep Cherokee. Aw man 
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InitialDave posted:It means you had a bit of a barney, possibly to the extend of having a bundle over it. Data Graham posted:It's like a ruckus. Why couldn't they use terms like these that common idiots like me will understand? A "fracas" sound like a loving exotic fruit or something. "Jeremy Clarkson suspended from the BBC over a pineapple."
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Mooseykins posted:Why couldn't they use terms like these that common idiots like me will understand? Because the BBC doesn't cater to common idiots, duh.
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:I was seriously excited about the cheap SUV challenge and watching them roll a Jeep Cherokee. Everyone was. Everyone was.
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meatpimp posted:Because the BBC doesn't cater to common idiots, duh. Counterpoint: Eastenders 
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Ola posted:But...but...that clip with Clarkson in a bouncing car, saying "what in God's name is happening"...might we never see that? This is exactly the clip I was most disappointed about
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Is there anywhere at BBC I can write and bitch about this? This is collective punishment and if they don't reconsider, I'll go to the loving UN if I have to.
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They really need to find a way to punish Clarkson without punishing everyone else on the show. I think the allegedly punched-at producer would probably fare the worst in the job pool. "Why did I leave my last job? I got the star of the show to throw the second punch of his life at me and the incident eventually got the entire show canceled...but I assure you that was an isolated incident that will definitely not recur on this new show." Even if I don't blame the victim (which I don't), that doesn't mean future employers won't.
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mod sassinator posted:where does take the piss out fall on that spectrum (i'm american)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXwFC1KTEyY
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Wait, do people in the UK actually think that cars are constantly destroying the environment?
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The other two's contracts are up at the same time as Clarkson's, aren't they? Somewhere in the bowels of BBC Central a room full of accountants is making GBS threads jagged bricks at the thought of all the money they make peddling Top Gear tat going to another company in six months' time.Cojawfee posted:Wait, do people in the UK actually think that cars are constantly destroying the environment? Lots of them, yes. Quite often the Minister for Transport is one of them.
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