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Even with the summit attempts a few months away, it's important to reinforce that teams should be leaving now if they want to get properly acclimatized. Everest base camp is 18,000 feet which rivals some of the tallest mountains in North America, and even at elevations as low as 9,000 feet you can die from HAPE/HACE. A recent appeal decision reinforces that if you are going to everest to sightsee, you better be an adult about it and prepare thoroughly, it's no fault on anyone if you perish:quote:PHOENIX — An appellate court ruling says Arizona's university system had no responsibility for a student's death from altitude sickness at a Mount Everest base camp during a student-organized excursion while studying in China. From the first story: quote:The group flew into Lhasa, at around 12,000 feet, on Oct. 18. Within a few days, they had driven to base camp at 18,000 feet. Most members of the group suffered some altitude sickness, Elizabeth said. Morgan's became so severe that the group decided to drive him to a lower elevation. No helicopter transport was available.
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I'll take 14. Let's go 14! (not really  )
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Mar 12, 2015 22:48
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I picked a high number because I know I'll be wrong, and I'd rather be wrong in a happy way (less people died) than in a sad way (more people died).
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Mar 12, 2015 22:52
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Lucky number 13 will die on the mountain this year or season whatever
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Mar 12, 2015 23:18
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caltrain vs everest for the year. My money's at caltrain, the death toll is already 8. http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_27675076/person-hit-killed-by-caltrain-palo-alto
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Mar 12, 2015 23:18
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Boy, 41 really does seem too high - unless the French decide to stage a reality TV contest on Everest this year.
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Mar 12, 2015 23:25
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5.
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Mar 12, 2015 23:28
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2 at most http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/03/11/powdered_alcohol_palcohol_approved_for_sale.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_fb_top I wonder how being trashed off powdered alcohol would be up on everest
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Mar 12, 2015 23:55
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redreader posted:caltrain vs everest for the year. My money's at caltrain, the death toll is already 8. 
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Mar 13, 2015 00:18
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people seemed particularly clumsy in 2006. also this thing is apparently the new golden gate. Why does everyone in California want to kill themselves?
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Mar 13, 2015 00:24
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Besides living in California I mean.
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Mar 13, 2015 00:26
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I won't pick a number, but I predict that this will be the year that someone delirious with mountain sickness suplexes their sherpa off the Lhotse Face.
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Mar 13, 2015 00:40
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Man Whore posted:people seemed particularly clumsy in 2006. That infographic is inaccurate, e.g. the person in the vehicle who died a couple of weeks ago didn't commit suicide. They hosed up and there was a traffic jam. Also another guy was hit in a tunnel in SF, and that was a homeless person, I think that was an accident too. There's a high school in palo alto which has famously suicidal students. The kids are all pushed super hard by each other and their parents. When they don't come first in class, they off themselves. It's called Gunn High. The last suicide wasn't a Gunn student, it was another student from another high-pressure high school. http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201501290900
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Mar 13, 2015 00:44
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In for 10.
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Mar 13, 2015 00:51
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6 (66)  shall fall to the ineptitude of their own hypoxic actions
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Mar 13, 2015 01:12
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Also Caltrain has tons of level crossings, all up and down the peninsula, and it's a commute train so there's tons of trains running during commute hours, which is exactly when the highest density of people are crossing the tracks ahead of a train.
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Mar 13, 2015 01:38
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redreader posted:That infographic is inaccurate, e.g. the person in the vehicle who died a couple of weeks ago didn't commit suicide. They hosed up and there was a traffic jam. Also another guy was hit in a tunnel in SF, and that was a homeless person, I think that was an accident too. Shallow Alto is a horrible horrible city
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Mar 13, 2015 01:44
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26. One fallen noob for every year I've lived on this planet without once deciding to climb Everest.
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Mar 13, 2015 02:09
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I'm guessing 7 at base camp or higher.
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Mar 13, 2015 02:26
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Alan Smithee posted:There's an observatory? What do they observe? Found pictures of it.  
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Mar 13, 2015 04:40
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I want to say 19, because the people who didn't get to go last year are stacked on top of the people going this year, so it's gonna cause nothing but slowdown and eventual death by lack of resources for the final push.
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Mar 13, 2015 04:54
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I'm guessing 17. Only 5 people died in avalanches in Canada this year, which is lower than normal. But they were told to stay the gently caress away because we had a warm winter and conditions were really, really bad. There were days it would rain on fresh snow, creating a really slippery snow crust, which would then get a meter of powder on top, then rain and freeze again. I guess people actually listened for once. I was expecting a really ugly season.
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Mar 13, 2015 04:57
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Man Whore posted:Besides living in Mainly that. I'll go with 5. Caltrain wins.
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Mar 13, 2015 05:42
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down n out posted:Even with the summit attempts a few months away, it's important to reinforce that teams should be leaving now if they want to get properly acclimatized. Everest base camp is 18,000 feet which rivals some of the tallest mountains in North America, and even at elevations as low as 9,000 feet you can die from HAPE/HACE. A recent appeal decision reinforces that if you are going to everest to sightsee, you better be an adult about it and prepare thoroughly, it's no fault on anyone if you perish: Of course the stupid fucker was from Carefree. Only a rich bitch would be that loving dumb.
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Mar 13, 2015 13:24
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I'm gonna plump for 9, with six of them on the Tibetan side because Nepal can't get it's act together and sort out permits and/or people are super scared of the icefall this year so the Southern side is almost deserted
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Mar 13, 2015 15:25
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2 sherpas and 7 climbers.
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Mar 13, 2015 15:38
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1D6 sherpa and 1D20 climbers. Mountain rolls for initiative.
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Mar 13, 2015 15:45
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More like 2d6 climbers. e: Goddammit now I want to play a pen-and-paper RPG about climbing Everest.
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Mar 13, 2015 15:47
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Catpain Slack posted:More like 2d6 climbers. Wouldn't you be constantly having to roll every 10 seconds against altitude sickness ?
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Mar 13, 2015 15:56
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Bro Nerd Alpha posted:Wouldn't you be constantly having to roll every 10 seconds against altitude sickness ? You roll against a stat that determines your resistance to altitude, but it's completely unrelated to any of your other stats and also it's not on your character sheet but on a secret list that only the GM knows. That's how altitude tends to work, you literally have no idea of how you'll react until you get there, and it seems to be mostly unrelated to weight, sex or fitness level. Sherpa players get +5 to this stat.
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Mar 13, 2015 16:11
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Definitely basing an antagonistic deity off of K2 next game I run.
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Mar 13, 2015 16:17
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Goddamn, Everest is such a poo poo-show. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-31587654
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Mar 13, 2015 16:43
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I'm in for 8. The mountain might be sated after last year, but it's hard to resist eating a few tasty, tasty amateur climbers.
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Mar 13, 2015 17:29
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I'll skew high and say 16, because the mountain is gonna be packed due to last year.
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Mar 13, 2015 18:04
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:I'll skew high and say 16, because the mountain is gonna be packed due to last year. maybe maybe not, last I heard the Nepalese government isn't being forthcoming on whether they'll let people have a second go using the same permits, which has probably left a lot of expeditions in limbo, and we're getting to the point where they need to be leaving in the next couple weeks if they're gonna get to the top before the monsoon
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Mar 13, 2015 18:17
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Can we get a kill count in the OP?
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Fatkraken posted:maybe maybe not, last I heard the Nepalese government isn't being forthcoming on whether they'll let people have a second go using the same permits, which has probably left a lot of expeditions in limbo, and we're getting to the point where they need to be leaving in the next couple weeks if they're gonna get to the top before the monsoon That's true, on the other hand, they've lowered the individual permit to just $11,000. It used to be a group of seven could get a permit for $70k, but now it's all just individual permits, so the cost has either risen slightly, or fallen dramatically. It sounds like if you prefer to go alone or in a smaller group, your costs have dropped a lot. There's also a new route being pushed, to avoid the area of the avalanche that killed all those Sherpas last year. New route might = more deaths, due to unfamiliarity? Or maybe the Sherpas will be more cautious this year? I'm guessing on a lower number of climbers total compared to 2013, but a higher fatality rate, due to nasty weather, Sherpas being less willing to rescue struggling climbers, a new route, and some climbing companies that lost tons of money last year trying to get back in the black financially by cutting corners.
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Mar 13, 2015 23:34
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I'm in for 17. I think that after a year of basically no summits people are too eager to get to the top and kill themselves in dumb ways.
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Mar 14, 2015 03:45
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I think a baker's dozen sounds right for the corpse count this year
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Does this body count include Sherpas or are we acting like most of the bucket listers who attempt it and not thinking of them as human.
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