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I can say that the majority of what I've heard of TPG ADSL2+ has been utter remorse. Dropouts, lovely customer service and damaged provided hardware. iiNet is the exact opposite and their BoB line of Modems are nothing short of a masterstroke. A very simplified and convenient line of hardware. I will always remember iiNet for running awesome TF2 servers and occasionally giving out 10% off this month's bill coupon codes to team MVPs. I hope they don't get castrated and absorbed.
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cpaf posted:Sorry for upsetting your enjoyment of Auspol by posting "the same poo poo we always hear" you tiresome idiot Sorry you seem to think that repeating tiresome poo poo is funny.
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Mar 13, 2015 00:31
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I"m actually very surprised the telecommunication/ISP market actually had so many players for as long as it did. Markets in Australia usually tend to have duopolies, while the ISP market had a very good range of providers (with their own equipment). It was really just a matter of time before this was going to come about and I saw the trend even when I first started working in the industry. What we're seeing now is just a snowball effect of the bigger players buying out the smaller.
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The myth of Coalition economic management We need to stop passively accepting "truisms" that long ago ceased to be true, and we should start with the myth about the Coalition's superior economic credentials, writes Tim Dunlop.
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As long as you still don't have to wait on hold. Honestly, that system is amazing, and it baffles me that other companies don't do it. I wonder if this will effect iinets recently announced netflix deal of not streams not counting towards quotas?
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Anidav posted:I hope they don't get castrated and absorbed. TPG are already in the process of consolidating under the one brand, it's only a matter of time before they absorb iinet completely.
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Mar 13, 2015 00:35
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Seagull posted:"heh i'm going to own these left wing nerds with this green crack" - the prime minister It's okay he went out Coal Rolling for the rest of the afternoon to make up for it. I slowed down the video and you can see him briefly begin to change back into reptilian form at one point.
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I think iiNet was the only ISP left still pushing for the Governemnt to build the better NBN. The rest have gone off and built their own NBN clones in a bunch of suburbs; including TPG. I worry that this will lead to an Americanised situation where a singular ISP owns a network monopoly per suburb/city/block. Like, we're basically heading towards a AT&T/Verizon/Sprint monopoloy like is happening over in the States. The only advantage is they have Google over there building their own network which is slightly unfucking things.
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Mar 13, 2015 00:43
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So who's left that isn't poo poo now?
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Mar 13, 2015 00:45
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Uh, Club Telco and iPrimus?
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Zenithe posted:As long as you still don't have to wait on hold. Honestly, that system is amazing, and it baffles me that other companies don't do it. I wonder if this will effect iinets recently announced netflix deal of not streams not counting towards quotas? They'd probably offer unlimited quotas like they do on their current range. Anidav posted:I think iiNet was the only ISP left still pushing for the Governemnt to build the better NBN. The rest have gone off and built their own NBN clones in a bunch of suburbs; including TPG. TPG was the only one rolling out their own NBN (I think?). Both Telstra and Optus have sold their HFC networks to NBN.
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Anidav posted:I can say that the majority of what I've heard of TPG ADSL2+ has been utter remorse. Dropouts, lovely customer service and damaged provided hardware. iiNet is the exact opposite and their BoB line of Modems are nothing short of a masterstroke. A very simplified and convenient line of hardware. I've had TPG ADSL2+/Naked DSL (same product really just no PSTN service on the latter) since moving to Brisbane at 5 different locations. Each location I've had at least 13Mbit sync speeds, with the last three places I've had it at I've had around 20Mbit. I've been able to pull down that speed easily in each location with the connection and never had a drop out except in instances of severe weather (and if lightning strikes very close by where the cables run). Customer service, I usually just email them and have no problems. They probably struggle to understand me as much as I do to understand them sometimes, but when I have had to call I've always been able to get what I've needed. Hold times are annoying with any company. Provided hardware: I never ever ever use provided DSL hardware and would never recommend anyone else do so. Usually dropouts and the like are caused by lovely copper cable, which lies in Telstra's domain. Having dealt with Telstra's wholesale faults department, I can say that they are a pain to do anything with and reluctant to fix any fault and will only do so if there's a major issue (i.e cannot get above 1.5Mbit sync speed, constant dropouts). Even then, if there's a major fault in that entire pipe of cable, Telstra will tell you there's a CNI (Customer Network Improvement) ticket on it, and it'll be fixed in X months (usually 6+). This whole thing would have been much improved in a post-FTTP NBN situation, but thanks Turdball and Tones for committing us to good ol' copper, waterproofed with garbage bags.
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I will give TPG this. They haven't poisoned the BGP routes like certain other companies have.
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Birb Katter posted:Sarkeesian at the opera house Sponsored by the Opera House events but that was actually in Melbourne. I missed out because I was a lazy gently caress and didnt book my ticket early 
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starkebn posted:The myth of Coalition economic management Speaking of, what's the protocol for passing a budget when the last one hasn't been passed yet? Does it matter?
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Telstra is building a National Wifi Network, Optus is doing the same thing but is only targeting Country Australia, iiNet was going to build a public WiFi Network in Victoria and Canberra, TPG is apparently building their own NBN, OPENNetworks is building their own VDSL Network in Sydney. That's off the top of my head, a lot of it could arguably be in direct competition to the NBN. I think Foxtel is doing something similar as well now that they've recently been approved to become a ISP? EDIT:  Yeah Foxtel will definitely try something similar soon Anidav fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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Anidav posted:Telstra is building a National Wifi Network, Optus is doing the same thing but is only targeting Country Australia, iiNet was going to build a public WiFi Network in Victoria and Canberra, TPG is apparently building their own NBN, OPENNetworks is building their own VDSL Network in Sydney. The power of the Free Market!!!
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Frogmanv2 posted:Sorry you seem to think that repeating tiresome poo poo is funny. Mate, you're posting in Auspol D&D. poo poo doesn't get more tiresome than this. Give it a rest.
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Mar 13, 2015 01:07
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It's going to be a mess, by the time the Coalition or Shorten NBN is finished; all these miniature suburb by suburb monopolies will be complete and Australia will be hosed. Then to make matters worst - Telstra, Optus and TPG will start buying out these micro-network monopolies and you'd have a different ISP to choose from per state. Just imagine it, one half of Brisbane can only choose Optus and the other half can only choose TPG. It's exactly what they want too so they have every reason to rush to compete with the Coalition's fraudband because they want to lock down your house with them FOREVER.
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Anidav posted:It's going to be a mess, by the time the Coalition or Shorten NBN is finished; all these miniature suburb by suburb monopolies will be complete and Australia will be hosed. The problem with the US is that the companies agreed to only offer each of their services in certain areas. TPG are likely to tell Telstra to shove it and put their network in where they can because gently caress limiting yourself to certain areas.
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Update on a matter that's actually important and affects us all: Vanya and I got caught in a surprise rainstorm and now he's damp and cross
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There's a recent ruling that they have to offer their fiber at wholesale prices to other ISPs, and retail and wholesale need to be split. It was a result of TPG building their broadband network.
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Avshalom posted:Update on a matter that's actually important and affects us all: Vanya and I got caught in a surprise rainstorm and now he's damp and cross Tell him the world still weeps for Sharon, I'm sure he'd understand.
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Would there be much of a difference between ADSL2+ and Naked DSL sync speeds at the same property?
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QUACKTASTIC posted:Would there be much of a difference between ADSL2+ and Naked DSL sync speeds at the same property? Shouldn't be.
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Endman posted:Mate, you're posting in Auspol D&D. poo poo doesn't get more tiresome than this. Give it a rest. I normally would but I'm in a bad mood and got called a tiresome, humourless, tedious human with no friends because some chuckle gently caress thinks he is kingshit because he posted the same tired crap I have been hearing for nearly 15 years. At least auspol keeps to humor from this century.
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adamantium|wang posted:Tell him the world still weeps for Sharon, I'm sure he'd understand.
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Frogmanv2 posted:I normally would but I'm in a bad mood and got called a tiresome, humourless, tedious human with no friends because some chuckle gently caress thinks he is kingshit because he posted the same tired crap I have been hearing for nearly 15 years. You do realise that reacting the way you are leads to a self fulfilling prophecy right
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Once completed the NBN, as it stands now will, probably be split up and sold off anyway.
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QUACKTASTIC posted:Would there be much of a difference between ADSL2+ and Naked DSL sync speeds at the same property? None. ADSL and PSTN signal ranges are totally different. Naked DSL is just ADSL+ with no PSTN port hooked up to the cooper loop. One thing I'm surprised that isn't offered by many companies in Australia is ADSL Annex M, which increases the upstream up to 3-4Mbit, depending on your existing connection. It sacrifices downstream, but if you're a small business (say a graphics studio) and you need to upload huge gently caress off files, it's much better to have 2Mbit than just 1.
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Frogmanv2 posted:I normally would but I'm in a bad mood and got called a tiresome, humourless, tedious human with no friends because some chuckle gently caress thinks he is kingshit because he posted the same tired crap I have been hearing for nearly 15 years. What a tiresome, humourless and tedious post.
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Endman posted:What a tiresome, humourless and tedious post. let's keep talking about it for 3 pages and then multiple people can tell Frogman to kill he are self, it will be upholding the best traditions of our community.
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Endman posted:What a tiresome, humourless and tedious post. I'm sure you both have much more in common then.
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The best thing about iinet was that it had excellent routing to asia so you could actually play games with SEA without being routed through the western united states first. TPG are a perfectly ok provider, I use them. They are nice and cheap and I have had very few problems, speeds are reasonable without being great and yes, their gear is lovely so I just grab my own.
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SadisTech posted:let's keep talking about it for 3 pages and then multiple people can tell Frogman to kill he are self, it will be upholding the best traditions of our community. He gets it.
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SadisTech posted:let's keep talking about it for 3 pages and then multiple people can tell Frogman to kill he are self, it will be upholding the best traditions of our community. But if we do that, she will just call us tiresome and unfunny and the cycle will repeat
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CrazyTolradi posted:I'm sure you both have much more in common then. Yeah well your mum is so fat when she walks into town she creates a traffic jam. Then she eats the jam.
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Endman posted:Yeah well your mum is so fat when she walks into town she creates a traffic jam. Yeah, my mother is dead.
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Adding to the list of satisfied TPG customers. Supplied gear is poo poo but other then that no issues. Even gone over my download caps and not been throttled.
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CrazyTolradi posted:Yeah, my mother is dead. So is mine, but jesus she would have been on that jam like a locust plague before she kicked it.
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