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Dan Didio posted:I don't really understand the complaint. She wasn't all that special and she actually had an arc, unlike Coulson, who was and still is garbage. Rocksicles posted:Your opinion on Coulson is noted, and rejected outright. That's the kind of opinion that goes on your permanent record.
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Given there are people in this thread who consistently fail to understand basic math and literacy, I'm not too worried about my opinions not lining up to closely to the thread's consensus.
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OB_Juan posted:That's the kind of opinion that goes on your permanent record. I like Coulson, it's not a bad thing.
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Dan Didio posted:Her not being a spy and having something unique about her was the premise of the character, and in large parts, the show, though. It certainly didn't make her some faultless Mary Sue, given the very obvious flaws you've just pointed out. It was possible to be not a spy and still not dumb so often about spycraft, though. The Mary Sue-ness was more in the way Coulson treated her. (And her stupid TV hacking that would keep getting mentioned even when it didn't fit the plot that well or got shoehorned in) Although come to think of it, maybe his insistence on her being 'special' was Kree genetic memory recognising an Inhuman on some subconscious level.
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Rock: I meant him. You're fine. Mike: That is a cool theory.
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MikeJF posted:Although come to think of it, maybe his insistence on her being 'special' was Kree genetic memory recognising an Inhuman on some subconscious level. They sort of hinted at this in the episode with May mentioning how he died then when he returned met Daisy on their first mission.
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I never got the core complaint. The people in the agency created to protect civilians being over protective of the civilian on board isn't weird to me.
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MikeJF posted:It was possible to be not a spy and still not dumb so often about spycraft, though. Not for her character and I don't think the two characters the show is primarily about considering each other important for good reason that ties into their shared backstory, and using their skill-sets that make them unique from other characters is some kind of silver bullet. I think you've just got an axe to grind, bud.
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Dan Didio posted:Given there are people in this thread who consistently fail to understand basic math and literacy, I'm not too worried about my opinions not lining up to closely to the thread's consensus. Yeah, but you think S.H.I.E.L.D. is gone, and... it's not? Dan Didio posted:I think you've just got an axe to grind, bud. Man, I just want to know if S.H.I.E.L.D. is gone or not. It... it just doesn't make sense for it to be gone, why would you assert that it is? why did you say that thing
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Is this like a Ben Affleck thing and you're going to try and kill my family? S.H.I.E.L.D. is gone, my creepy friend.
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S.H.I.E.L.D.'s so 2013. It's all about my favorite Inhumans now, like Seeingman and Quillface.
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MikeJF posted:It was possible to be not a spy and still not dumb so often about spycraft, though. Coulson treated her exceptionally well because she was exceptionally skilled in an area (haxxoring) that the rest of the team was pretty much clueless about. She added a lot of value to the team and was a critical player in several missions despite being just a civilian and not having received any SHIELD training. On the other hand, because of this lack of training, she made mistakes, not once but several times, and almost got herself killed, which definitely humanized her and kept her out of Mary Sue territory. So yeah, I don't get your complaints. She has her strengths and her weaknesses, and I think the writers have done an excellent job balancing them.
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Spoilers for next week! Vague and undefined spoilers, but spoilers nonetheless. Also, some amazing art of Muad'dad. Tell you what, I'll just crop out everything but Muad'dad because it's so awesome. 
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Dan Didio posted:S.H.I.E.L.D.'s so 2013. It's all about my favorite Inhumans now, like Seeingman and Quillface. Not-Nightcrawler and Spyke.
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Coulson owns, hope this helps
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I would pay real money for a service that automatically did this after every episode...
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Mar 13, 2015 10:17
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I kinda want this mug.
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Mar 13, 2015 10:19
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Villain poster For next week's episode.
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That is extremely my poo poo.
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Any guesses yet on who Cal's new misfits are?
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Slashrat posted:Any guesses yet on who Cal's new misfits are? The muzzled guy is Angar The Screamer. The woman is Karla Faye Gideon, a minor Daredevil character who is neither a villain nor someone with powers in the comics. Don't know who the others are.
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MikeJF posted:I kinda want this mug. So do I. Any idea if it's real/where I can buy it? Edit: found it on amazon.com for $15. I'm in the UK, so that's a bit useless. It's on amazon.co.uk for £37 inc. shipping. I like it, but not *that* much. tentish klown fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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Slashrat posted:Any guesses yet on who Cal's new misfits are? I hope they go whole-hog on them being people with superpowers that Shield completely abused or mismanaged. Remember this is the group that found a murderer with darkness/light/energy absorbing powers, threw him in a hole, and STRENGTHENED his powers.
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Looks like there's also "The Accountant" and "The Uber Driver."
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Someone's gotta crunch those evil numbers.
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Ensign_Ricky posted:Spoilers for next week! Vague and undefined spoilers, but spoilers nonetheless. Notice the extra bird behind Cal and in front of the SHIELD logo. A reference to Mockingbird?
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Codependent Poster posted:Notice the extra bird behind Cal and in front of the SHIELD logo. A reference to Mockingbird? Something to note, people have speculated Mockingbird & Mack could be working with Hill; in this last episode Coulson made a reference to sending a list of supplies they were out of to Hill, so Coulson and her and working together as well. She could also be working on this side-job with Morse & Mackenzie behind his back and planning on betraying him of course, but I don't think I saw anyone else mention it so I figured I'd bring it up.
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She's working for someone against SHIELD, it won't be anyone like Stark or Hill. It might be something insane like the Skrulls or Thanos though.
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Fun fact: This scene was filmed outside the entrance to the original Adam West Bat-Cave.
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PriorMarcus posted:She's working for someone against SHIELD, it won't be anyone like Stark or Hill. It might be something insane like the Skrulls or Thanos though. Eh, I think they think they're on the side of good, such as it were.
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PriorMarcus posted:She's working for someone against SHIELD, it won't be anyone like Stark or Hill. It might be something insane like the Skrulls or Thanos though. I doubt that as much as she was defending Daisy and other team members in this weeks episode. They also made it seem that at some point Hunter could have joined them.
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Yeah the shadiest bit was she and Mack saying "if we're discovered, we might end up fighting/killing our friends here" which suggests something more sinister than working for Fury or other suggestions from the earlier hints.
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Well, if they're working for Hill/Stark/Ultron, then that's a project designed to completely replace the "broken" SHIELD. So there wouldn't be a need for Team Coulson any longer, which they might not take kindly to.
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Mary Sue is one of those terms that's totally lost it's original meaning. It pretty much means "female character I don't like" now. Even in the original meaning Skye wouldn't be one at all.
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twistedmentat posted:Mary Sue is one of those terms that's totally lost it's original meaning. It pretty much means "female character I don't like" now. Even in the original meaning Skye wouldn't be one at all. Kind of like "trope" at this point.
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The MSJ posted:Villain poster For next week's episode. THE ACCOUNTANT THE ACCOUNTANT'S BEST FRIEND MUAD'DAD MULTICOLORED HAIR WOMAN BANE
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twistedmentat posted:Mary Sue is one of those terms that's totally lost it's original meaning. It pretty much means "female character I don't like" now. Even in the original meaning Skye wouldn't be one at all. Well she literally is one, it's her name.
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greatn posted:Well she literally is one, it's her name. THAT'S NOT HER NAME!!!
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