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My friend asks whatever is it that Hilary Clinton is hiding from her emails seems 'suspicious.' What do you fellows think? Grouchio fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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Mar 13, 2015 21:05
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Grouchio posted:My friend asks whatever is it that Hilary Clinton is hiding from her emails seems 'suspicious.' What do you fellows think? Shes hiding the real identity of john galt in those emails. But seriously, can someone explain to me why the email controversy is a thing? I haven't been following it because it seems like the dumbest thing possible.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:05
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nutranurse posted:Shes hiding the real identity of john galt in those emails. Sounds like you've already got a handle on it, honestly.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:07
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nutranurse posted:Shes hiding the real identity of john galt in those emails. Completely agreed. She owned and used her own email server. Okay, so?
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Mar 13, 2015 21:08
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nutranurse posted:Shes hiding the real identity of john galt in those emails. She's hiding the orders she been receiving from the reptilian Illuminati obviously. ComradeCosmobot posted:The latest version of CISPA has left committee in the Senate. Ron Wyden (D-OR) provided the sole vote against, expressing concern that it would legitimize additional surveillance by not offering privacy protections on information shared with the government.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:09
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Radbot posted:I know I'm being a bit histrionic, but this doesn't seem an awful lot different from this: We've discovered Eric Garner was a sexual deviant who was into erotic asphyxiation. Officers tried to stop him, but his sheer sexual prowess overcame them.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:09
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Also this CISPA bill seems quite ominous. I hope the president does not sign this.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:11
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nutranurse posted:Shes hiding the real identity of john galt in those emails. I said it earlier. It's a thing because the GOP underwear got full and started spewing poo poo all over the place. That's how terrified they are of Hillary.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:11
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Grouchio posted:My friend asks whatever is it that Hilary Clinton is hiding from her emails seems 'suspicious.' What do you fellows think? 90% of the stuff that wasn't released is non-governmental correspondence, like planning her daughter's wedding and stuff about the Clinton Foundation. The other 10% is her allies like Sid Blumenthal emailing her to grouse about the Obama administration and would be embarrassing if made public. Apparently the stuff she turned over includes LinkedIn invites she receieved, which will be fun to see 
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Mar 13, 2015 21:12
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^^^^^ It's not accurate to say what percentage of the emails on her server were what, since all we have to go by is what she/her staff says it is. blunt for century posted:Completely agreed. She owned and used her own email server. Okay, so? I think the legitimate concern right now is whether or not she signed a mandatory document declaring she turned over all emailed related to government duties. If she signed it, she absolutely lied. If she didn't, then that's a problem within itself because it was a mandatory document so that means the State Department purposely allowed her to circumvent the rules.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:15
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nutranurse posted:Shes hiding the real identity of john galt in those emails. They have nothing else against her.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:18
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:They have nothing else against her. She's a democrat, woman, and clinton. That's plenty in their book.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:22
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A Winner is Jew posted:She's a democrat, woman, and clinton. That's plenty in their book. also, benghazi!!!!!
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Mar 13, 2015 21:23
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:I think the legitimate concern right now is whether or not she signed a mandatory document declaring she turned over all emailed related to government duties. True! This is potentially as big a problem for her as the SEC Form 4 issue was for Romney.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:23
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Seriously though that CISPA bill is giving me terrible SOPA vibes. Can we be sure that it won't pass through congress or the President?
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Mar 13, 2015 21:25
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nutranurse posted:But seriously, can someone explain to me why the email controversy is a thing? I haven't been following it because it seems like the dumbest thing possible.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:27
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Grouchio posted:My friend asks whatever is it that Hilary Clinton is hiding from her emails seems 'suspicious.' What do you fellows think? The whole reason for running her own email server was essentially to block transparency; she didn't want her emails accessible to FOIA requests. Any email that contained politically sensitive or embarrassing information could be hidden just by classifying it. The current administration does this all the time. It's the status quo. She also has a lot of emails that are not politically sensitive, and not particularly interesting. She couldn't plausibly classify these, so they would be available to FOIA searches if they were on government computers. Her issue is that there's a large number of people who are desperate to find anything they can smear her with. Some of these people are literally insane. If they got access to her emails, they could easily turn something stupid (like Chelsea's wedding planning) into a smoking political turd that they'd then scream about on the news for months.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:28
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Grouchio posted:My friend asks whatever is it that Hilary Clinton is hiding from her emails seems 'suspicious.' What do you fellows think? It is sketchy as gently caress. Unfortunately, it follows a clear precedent set by the Bush administration and followed by the Obama administration. It is a bad thing and one of the many reasons why I'll vote against Hillary in the primary. When it comes to the general? Republicans are the last people I'd trust to clean up a mess like this.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:31
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Either she has a gov email and personal email, and she uses the personal email for things she wants to hide, or just has a personal email, and submits all the gov emails except for the ones she wants to hide. Unless the law says that she's only allowed to send email from a gov account and all those emails must be preserved/submitted, it really doesn't matter.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:37
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Tobermory posted:The whole reason for running her own email server was essentially to block transparency; she didn't want her emails accessible to FOIA requests. I have no idea how the classification system works but I really hope there's something preventing high up people from classifying their drawings of the president with a dunce cap on his head.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:38
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I know a bunch of ultra-right wing fuckhead teabaggers, and not even one of them has mentioned this email "scandal" on facebook or in person
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Mar 13, 2015 21:43
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blunt, every time I see your avatar, I can't stop thinking about Men in Black. It's really distracting.  That guy's line deliver was great, also. "Please..."
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Mar 13, 2015 21:43
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a shameful boehner posted:blunt, every time I see your avatar, I can't stop thinking about Men in Black. It's really distracting.  I'm glad you get it haha, I get the impression not many people get where that's from. I'll take "Movies I've Seen Thousands of Times", please Alex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPRzh9pyEhI
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Mar 13, 2015 21:49
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Grouchio posted:Seriously though that CISPA bill is giving me terrible SOPA vibes. Can we be sure that it won't pass through congress or the President? Hate to break it to you, but Obama's been pushing for legislation like this for several years now. That said, he did issue a veto threat against CISPA because it didn't adequately protect privacy so who knows?
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Mar 13, 2015 21:52
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Fried Chicken posted:Whatever the gently caress you are doing doesn't matter, drop it and watch this I just want to quote this for the new page, it's that important.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:52
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Hate to break it to you, but Obama's been pushing for legislation like this for several years now. That said, he did issue a veto threat against CISPA because it didn't adequately protect privacy so who knows?
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Mar 13, 2015 21:58
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Grouchio posted:So what wouldn't I be able to do on the internet anymore, hypothetically, if this bill is signed into law? Hide.
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Mar 13, 2015 22:03
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OH COME ON. It's 2015. We shouldn't be concerned about Hillary Clinton's emails! What about her YikYak posts and her Whatsapp and Instagram rolls? Let's focus on what's IMPORTANT.
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Mar 13, 2015 22:09
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Quidam Viator posted:OH COME ON. It's 2015. We shouldn't be concerned about Hillary Clinton's emails! What about her YikYak posts and her Whatsapp and Instagram rolls? Let's focus on what's IMPORTANT. Now I feel old since I had to google Yik Yak.
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Mar 13, 2015 22:15
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Amergin posted:Now I feel old since I had to google Yik Yak. Uh I know what Yik Yak is but why don't you tell the thread in case anyone doesn't know.
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Mar 13, 2015 22:15
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girlslaughingatbushes.tumblr.com 
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Mar 13, 2015 22:16
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zoux posted:Uh I know what Yik Yak is but why don't you tell the thread in case anyone doesn't know. Something about viewing nearby folks' anonymous Yaks. I dunno all my googling did was make me hungry for Nepalese food. EDIT: I'm downloading it now to see if bare breasts are involved. Amergin fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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Mar 13, 2015 22:17
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Is that the one where you can anonymously send out messages to people in your city/metro/campus/whatever area?
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Mar 13, 2015 22:22
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420DD Butts posted:Is that the one where you can anonymously send out messages to people in your city/metro/campus/whatever area? Yeah, there was some minor controversy at my Oklahoma college's campus this year involving a lot of slurs and violent racist language being projected towards local minorities through YikYak.
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Mar 13, 2015 22:26
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Its an anonymous message board only for people in your area
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Mar 13, 2015 22:28
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blunt for century posted:Completely agreed. She owned and used her own email server. Okay, so? Securing an email sever is actually really loving hard. It seems like Clinton's email server was less than "best practices" secure. Even if she wasn't sharing classified information, there was likely still massively valuable information contained in this email server.
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Mar 13, 2015 22:32
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Today in "I know you are, but what am I?"
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Mar 13, 2015 23:25
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Trabisnikof posted:Securing an email sever is actually really loving hard. It seems like Clinton's email server was less than "best practices" secure. Even if she wasn't sharing classified information, there was likely still massively valuable information contained in this email server. Yeah, this is my only issue. There's no way anybody the Clintons can have hired could secure a server better than the US government can. Even if they hired the top experts in the private sector, the NSA may well know vulnerabilities the public is unaware of. I can't bring myself to be shocked that a 50+-year-old politician in the 1990s was stupid when it came to email, but in the age of China hacking everything in sight it needs to be established that she won't do this as president.
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Mar 13, 2015 23:53
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McNerd posted:Yeah, this is my only issue. There's no way anybody the Clintons can have hired could secure a server better than the US government can. Even if they hired the top experts in the private sector, the NSA may well know vulnerabilities the public is unaware of. I can't bring myself to be shocked that a 50+-year-old politician in the 1990s was stupid when it came to email, but in the age of China hacking everything in sight it needs to be established that she won't do this as president. You are aware of how incompetent government IT contractors can be, and often are, right? Through big contractors getting contacts through strongarming and good old fashioned nepotism a significant amount of government IT contracts go to companies that are in no way qualified to handle them, although they are quite happy to throw something together for the minions of dollars the contract is for.
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