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Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009

plape tickler posted:

Nice. What are you using kb/m or controller? Also are you using default sensitivity? My aim is never that steady. With a controller I feel like I need to keep pressing the aim stick upward constantly. Your reticle moves way less than mine.

I'm playing on PS4 so I'm just using a dualshock 4, I dunno if the console version even lets you change sensitivity or anything to be honest.

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Trick Question
Apr 9, 2007


Scrub-Niggurath posted:

How does his ending change based on what you do?

(More end game spoilers) Near the end of his story, you get a note on his table from his wife, telling him to call her if he thinks they can still work this out. If you then use his phone instead of his typewriter, during the ending sequence he's dining with his family at the table. At least I assume, I've only seen the dining with his family version.

Thoughtless
Feb 1, 2007


Doesn't think, just types.
Overall I feel this game had too much getting killed by enemies you couldn't see, sometimes through windows.

My strategy in a lot of the levels was get as close to unseen open areas as I could, fire a gun, and see what comes out, because if I didn't I'd get shot by something outside my view.

I can't remember the first one doing it this much, and therefore it was better in that one aspect.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Oh god drat it there are boss fights again.

e: Oh look, another shotgun and window puzzle.

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Mar 14, 2015

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
Trying to get an S rank on Take Down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUR7rXFliLU

I got too cocky :(

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

Thoughtless posted:

I can't remember the first one doing it this much, and therefore it was better in that one aspect.

You're the one doing it. Not the game.

More combo videos please. :flashfap:

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

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Jehde posted:

You're the one doing it. Not the game.

The level before this with Richter every enemy surrounding the stairs had a gun, with two or three more guys behind a window also looking right at the stairs. Move forward and die, probably. So instead I just guessed and sprayed the assault rifle down the corridor and waited to see what happened. I apparently killed a fat guy, a dog, four gunners, and some melee dudes. I never figured out what the enemy placement was.

e: I sure do get shot through solid walls a lot in HLM2.

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Mar 14, 2015

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
I know Alex and Ash get all the love but god drat Tony is loving fun. Not being able to pick up weapons really alters your approach.

I guess it's kind of sucky how The Son only gets gimmicks that are identical to the Fans, but I guess his dad and his cronies did them all first so I guess the Fans are ripping him off.

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
I still dislike the game, but watching other people breeze through it is glorious.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

TopHatGenius posted:

Regarding the ending I suppose it provides closure but I feel like it's a hamfisted way of doing so. In the name of ART. It would have been at least neat to play the coup d'état instead of SUDDENLY NUKES. I get the whole reasoning behind it but it still rubs me the wrong way. Also who's the guy in the desert that Biker is soo afraid of?! It would be pretty poo poo for the devs to leave something like that hanging and never resolve it.

Also in the prologue before the first fan's level, has anyone noticed the glowing green manhole crossed out? What's up with that? It only appears then and there.

Biker was probably scared of Richard. Honestly the way I would have liked it to end would have been saying there was a coup and war was imminent and then cutting it off. Really, I'd have liked it if none of the protagonists were shown on screen as dying, letting you wonder about it a little. Like end Withdrawal with Jake being dragged away, Deathwish with Alex and Ash wondering where their friends were, Apocalypse with the Son walking towards the edge of the screen, etc.

Nukes weren't sudden though. Lots of

Ddraig posted:

I know Alex and Ash get all the love but god drat Tony is loving fun. Not being able to pick up weapons really alters your approach.

I guess it's kind of sucky how The Son only gets gimmicks that are identical to the Fans, but I guess his dad and his cronies did them all first so I guess the Fans are ripping him off.




I feel like the techniques had potential. sure Bloodlines makes sense but why not throw in gimmicks from the other HLM1 bosses? Like bullet resistance and throwing molotovs or something. Oh well.




Lasher posted:

I still dislike the game, but watching other people breeze through it is glorious.

Boy, you are talking to none other then the holder of title of fifth BEST TIME for level 1 of HARD MODE. :smuggo:



Erata posted:

Even though the Special Digital Edition said that it didn't include the full soundtrack, it appears to contain every single track listed on the store page's DLC Soundtrack in the game folder. :shrug: The Castanets song isn't in either package though. Still, you should consider giving them some extra money because the soundtrack is something else!

edit: Took a peek at Steam achievement stats and only 54% of all game owners have unlocked all the fans. Yikes. I hope that's not people giving up on the game. 24% "did as the director said", that is to say, successfully completed what amounted to the game's tutorial.


Eh, the director one is kinda hard because it's counter to most people's natures to throw a hammer to knock a guy down, wait for him to get back up then melee him to death.

RBA Starblade posted:

HLM1's point is you shouldn't feel bad about whatever's happening because it's not real. It's basically a companion to Spec Ops with its "Have you killed any Americans today?" and "You are still a good person" loading screens. You (probably) don't like hurting people and you (probably) had fun. It's being completely earnest when it asks those questions.


Eh, I think of it more as criticizing the need to excuse such things. It's a game, yeah, but saying "it's okay because they're robot alien zombie clones" to make it morally ok is silly.

Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Mar 14, 2015

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

J posted:

Here's a video of somebody comboing the first 3 areas of the power plant level (casualties.) :eek:

I don't get it, how is it that in videos like this one dudes can do poo poo like sidestep someone who's full-autoing at them and not just catch bullets or that gun dudes have poo poo reaction time and if I try to do anything similar I get pasted instantly? Aside from the obvious that I need to get good.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Broken Cog posted:

Evan got one more level. In "Withdrawal", clear out the third floor without being killed, and you will get a special cutscene. During the cutscene interact with the desk you're sitting at, and in the intro to the next level interact with the corpse on the table. This will unlock a hidden level on the level select screen.

You need to hit A, not interact, for some reason.

Shima Honnou posted:

I don't get it, how is it that in videos like this one dudes can do poo poo like sidestep someone who's full-autoing at them and not just catch bullets or that gun dudes have poo poo reaction time and if I try to do anything similar I get pasted instantly? Aside from the obvious that I need to get good.

It's a combination of skill and luck. I've managed to do it almost as well (I broke the chain in area 2) but it took several attempts to get instantly shot.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Erata posted:

Even though the Special Digital Edition said that it didn't include the full soundtrack, it appears to contain every single track listed on the store page's DLC Soundtrack in the game folder. :shrug: The Castanets song isn't in either package though. Still, you should consider giving them some extra money because the soundtrack is something else!

edit: Took a peek at Steam achievement stats and only 54% of all game owners have unlocked all the fans. Yikes. I hope that's not people giving up on the game. 24% "did as the director said", that is to say, successfully completed what amounted to the game's tutorial.

I mean the game just came out.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Lichtenstein posted:

How many stages does the second not-Vietnam mission have? I think I'm in for some bullet counting. :(

It's Hawaii consarn it. :argh:

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

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Anatharon posted:

It's a combination of skill and luck. I've managed to do it almost as well (I broke the chain in area 2) but it took several attempts to get instantly shot.

That's awesome and infuriating. I did the same thing (with the sniper) he did at floor three, but always got shot down before I could hit the turn.

Studio
Jan 15, 2008



Anatharon posted:

Biker was probably scared of Richard. Honestly the way I would have liked it to end would have been saying there was a coup and war was imminent and then cutting it off. Really, I'd have liked it if none of the protagonists were shown on screen as dying, letting you wonder about it a little. Like end Withdrawal with Jake being dragged away, Deathwish with Alex and Ash wondering where their friends were, Apocalypse with the Son walking towards the edge of the screen, etc.

Nukes weren't sudden though. Lots of





I feel like the techniques had potential. sure Bloodlines makes sense but why not throw in gimmicks from the other HLM1 bosses? Like bullet resistance and throwing molotovs or something. Oh well.


Boy, you are talking to none other then the holder of title of fifth BEST TIME for level 1 of HARD MODE. :smuggo:





Eh, the director one is kinda hard because it's counter to most people's natures to throw a hammer to knock a guy down, wait for him to get back up then melee him to death.



Eh, I think of it more as criticizing the need to excuse such things. It's a game, yeah, but saying "it's okay because they're robot alien zombie clones" to make it morally ok is silly.


Sub-30 ain't even hard. It's entirely random. Like 100% random.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

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Haha I found the pot gunner that guy was talking about earlier. I can't even be mad about that.

e: I can be about the black dogs in the black light though. Oh boy.

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Mar 14, 2015

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Trick Question posted:

(More end game spoilers) Near the end of his story, you get a note on his table from his wife, telling him to call her if he thinks they can still work this out. If you then use his phone instead of his typewriter, during the ending sequence he's dining with his family at the table. At least I assume, I've only seen the dining with his family version.

Yeah, it also effects what interview Richter and his mom are watching. With the happy ending they're watching the interview with the pig butcher, with the book one they're watching an interview with Evan about the book.


Studio posted:


Sub-30 ain't even hard. It's entirely random. Like 100% random.

You bumped me down to 6th. :argh:

Alex and Ash don't really need much luck other then hoping Ash's AI cooperates but killing the two fat guys is really hard.

I just got that one for a lark. I had a top 10 time for Into the Pit and Deathwish yesterday but apparently the HLM community is very serious about their speedruns.

Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Mar 14, 2015

Studio
Jan 15, 2008



Anatharon posted:

Yeah, it also effects what interview Richter and his mom are watching. With the happy ending they're watching the interview with the pig butcher, with the book one they're watching an interview with Evan about the book.


You bumped me down to 6th. :argh:

I almost got a 27. Last dude didn't aggro which cost me about 2 seconds. That said, hardmode speedrunning seems like a random nightmare and stupid. I'll take my 13 on normal level 1.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Studio posted:

I almost got a 27. Last dude didn't aggro which cost me about 2 seconds. That said, hardmode speedrunning seems like a random nightmare and stupid. I'll take my 13 on normal level 1.

There's a couple of levels I could get consistently. Into the Pit and Death Wish. Well, not Corey's floor. The first bit having that inverse L of glass is stupid.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

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Blood Money's pretty cool! I love how it essentially breaks the first floor into thirds.

bef
Mar 2, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Whats the refund policy for Steam? One and you're done?

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.

King Vidiot posted:

Jake's sweet Goon Tang style.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010
Ignore the right image but the left one was never used ingame. Interesting.

http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/EXx0n6ovOarONrkV8NDVjU8515NTPJ6DSJGheeFog2Y.jpg


My guess is it's an old version of The Abyss' art.

More ending words:


I feel like it sort of contradicts it's own point. "Enjoy the good times while they last, and when the end comes, accept it without regret." But by ending everything on screen with such finality it's more like "Here's the end. You don't like it. You'll eventually accept it."

I mean maybe that's the point but I feel it weakens it and the game isn't so great it can afford to weaken itself further. :v:

Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Mar 14, 2015

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Visiting family tonight, gonna try and beat casualties on my vita

Lol ok

memy
Oct 15, 2011

by exmarx
First Blood is surprisingly easy to full combo

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.
I really hope the game let's you import custom VHS covers for your custom levels.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdDL5D1hi9o

I like how that one guy never budges at all despite all his friends being horribly blown away. Also thought I was done for when the second to last guy's bullet clipped me.

Bummed shadowplay didn't save the first floor :( Also god drat the weapon pickup poo poo is annoying as gently caress. I can't count the amount of times I've died because I attempted some John Woo poo poo and in the split second when I need to pick up a gun to shoot the guy coming at me it picks up a bat or an empty one and I get hammered.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Annnnnnd beat the part i was stuck on the first try. With touchscreen lookscroll.

(Granted i used the snipes this time)

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


Skunkrocker posted:

I really hope the game let's you import custom VHS covers for your custom levels.



It should, consarn it. Also, I'm guessing there's gonna be a Goon pack for all the level makers here.

Zero!
Apr 13, 2011

You're gonna have to try a little harder than THAT.

Ddraig posted:

Trying to get an S rank on Take Down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUR7rXFliLU

I got too cocky :(

That's pretty much exactly the same way I got my first 20x combo, although I chickened out on going for a full combo and banked it instead (didn't know you still got the achievement if you died). You can speed it up a bit though if you rush and punch the dog at 0:04/0:34. I'm not sure whether it's due to the dog being in a turning animation, the angle of attack next to a wall or what, but 90% of the time it let me skip the slam animation for an instant melee kill, making it a lot quicker and less risky to take down.

Yaws
Oct 23, 2013

I haven't played this yet but all these negative reviews and comments in this thread are disheartening. I was so stoked for this.

I hope the level editor alleviates the criticism this is getting since the main complaint is level design.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
So I was a pussy and looked up the ending.

In the first mission of act 5,
After beard gets nuked, when you control Richter, go upstairs before answering the phone. Talk to his mom laying in bed. She says she was dreaming of Richter, sitting with his father, staring out to sea, but felt like something bad was about to happen. :stare:

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

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I'm at what I'm guessing is the end of the game, the double-swan. How do I win? I figured out to stay far back so the one head doesn't bullet hell me to death and to whack the chainsaw head when it comes in, but there's no feedback for anything. Am I actually hurting it? Four swings didn't do anything.

e: Never mind, like everything else it's buggy as gently caress. I got something to happen after typing this.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
Hit both.


Wilhelm_Scream.wav posted:

So I was a pussy and looked up the ending.

In the first mission of act 5,
After beard gets nuked, when you control Richter, go upstairs before answering the phone. Talk to his mom laying in bed. She says she was dreaming of Richter, sitting with his father, staring out to sea, but felt like something bad was about to happen. :stare:


Holy poo poo.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

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No I got it, the problem was it was bugged and neither could be harmed. I killed one this last attempt.

quote:

Holy poo poo.

I saw that but don't know what the implication is supposed to be, unless Beard's his dad?

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice

RBA Starblade posted:

I saw that but don't know what the implication is supposed to be, unless Beard's his dad?

I thought Evan was there, never mind

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Richter:
Doesn't Richard appear next to him right when the bomb hits

Refused
Sep 6, 2005
the game ends with Richter sitting with Richard, staring out to sea, then something bad happens

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Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.

Wilhelm_Scream.wav posted:

Richter:
Doesn't Richard appear next to him right when the bomb hits


:stonk:

Nooooooooooooooooo...

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