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So Spring Training on Monday is FREE for anyone to attend. So if anyone in that area wants to come check out the aero kits and hang out with a goon, c'mon down y'all! Schedule to download/view On-Track sessions will be from 10:00 - 13:00 and 14:00 - 18:00 CENTRAL All on-track stuff will have T&S and probably live streaming, so the wait is almost over! 
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I hope Wirth didn't bone the aero.
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Mar 13, 2015 19:41
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Human Grand Prix posted:I hope Wirth didn't bone the aero. I mean, he did such a good job with the Virgin F1 cars and the new HPD P2.... 
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Mar 13, 2015 19:51
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Cygni posted:I mean, he did such a good job with the Virgin F1 cars and the new HPD P2.... He is also partially responsible for creating one of the worst F1 cars of all time.
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Mar 13, 2015 20:29
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the virgin car showed up in melbourne with a fuel tank too small to finish the race
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Mar 13, 2015 20:35
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Human Grand Prix posted:He is also partially responsible for creating one of the worst F1 cars of all time. when did mclaren sign him?
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Mar 13, 2015 20:42
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He used to post to rec.autos.sport.f1 so he's cool in my book.
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Mar 13, 2015 20:47
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be nice wicka posted:the virgin car showed up in melbourne with a fuel tank too small to finish the race Gustav Brunner also did this but he isn't retarded.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:02
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Mar 13, 2015 21:14
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that is an awful looking race car and it is beautiful
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Mar 13, 2015 21:22
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drat that makes the cars look even more rear heavy.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:33
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Plus Gustav Brunner designed this, which I always liked.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:40
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Dudley posted:Plus Gustav Brunner designed this, which I always liked. All of his cars were good designs with awful/unreliable engines (or inept management, usually both), except perhaps the Ferraris.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:42
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It reminds me for some reason of the 80's road course CART cars for some reason. (the backend that is).
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Mar 13, 2015 21:46
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Dudley posted:Plus Gustav Brunner designed this, which I always liked. i miss the days when a minardi could have this many sponsors
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Mar 13, 2015 21:55
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ok that rear shot looks badass it's very batmobile era modified, when guys with no aero experience made Frankenstein monsters that somehow worked, 'cause they did some math on a bar napkin
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Mar 13, 2015 21:57
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the rear wing assembly is like, early 80s F1 when ground effects were just banned and nobody knew what the gently caress to do. i like it
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Mar 13, 2015 21:58
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FuzzySkinner posted:It reminds me for some reason of the 80's road course CART cars for some reason. It does.
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Mar 13, 2015 22:23
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Alain Post posted:the rear wing assembly is like, early 80s F1 when ground effects were just banned and nobody knew what the gently caress to do. i like it I wonder if the rules allow for more than one rear wing; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toleman_TG183 Because if so oh boy.
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Mar 13, 2015 22:25
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FuzzySkinner posted:It reminds me for some reason of the 80's road course CART cars for some reason.  That's the Sanair oval
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Mar 13, 2015 22:31
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Alain Post posted:the rear wing assembly is like, early 80s F1 when ground effects were just banned and nobody knew what the gently caress to do. i like it "it will be faster if we just add more wings, right?" "....sure"
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Mar 13, 2015 23:24
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be nice wicka posted:"it will be faster if we just add more wings, right?" The Rory Byrne effect.
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Mar 13, 2015 23:30
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I imagine why they ended up with a bunch of little wings is that each piece needs to be removable without completely loving up the aero balance across the car. So if you take off a big piece of downforce at the back, youve gotta be able to take some off the front, too. Good way to do that is just stick little wings all over the car, then you can pick and choose pieces to get the balance you want. Especially since any wickers had to be homologated as removable pieces themselves. I really hope the teams end up running weird, different piece combos. That would be fun.
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Mar 13, 2015 23:33
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Cygni posted:I really hope the teams end up running weird, different piece combos. That would be fun. This is entirely possible, and I hope we get to see this happen. I've been invited to a media walkaround of the Chevy aero kit on Monday morning, so if they let me take pics expect lots of high-res pics 
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Mar 14, 2015 00:00
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FuzzySkinner posted:It reminds me for some reason of the 80's road course CART cars for some reason. That reminds me of this: 
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Mar 14, 2015 00:47
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Pvt. Public posted:That reminds me of this: The best ones are from the vendor right outside the Smithsonian. Yes, all of them. 
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Mar 14, 2015 00:50
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http://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/danger-of-indycar-oval-racing-dissuades-senna-and-speed-from-taking-part/ I think for Speed's POV it would make sense in a lot of ways considering the fact he came close to being in Dan's position in 2011 at Vegas. I also think Mike Conway has every reason to feel the way he does considering the amount of horror crashes he's been through. I am, a tad bit lost as to Senna's attitude among others though. I mean it's called "Indy"Car for a reason. If you would want to race a single race on the schedule, would it not be the Indy 500? Not saying "Go race Texas" or whatever, but would you not want to hit up IMS in May in the same way others want to drive Le Mans in June?
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Mar 14, 2015 01:41
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FuzzySkinner posted:http://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/danger-of-indycar-oval-racing-dissuades-senna-and-speed-from-taking-part/ What you're saying here is that one person's willingness to risk their life is understandable, and another person's unwillingness to risk their life in the same exact way is somehow not reasonable. The man doesn't feel the risk is worth the reward.That's ok. Very few do. That's what makes the race great. He shouldn't have to explain himself.
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Mar 14, 2015 01:53
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Grayly Squirrel posted:What you're saying here is that one person's willingness to risk their life is understandable, and another person's unwillingness to risk their life in the same exact way is somehow not reasonable. Right. I didn't want to sound like a "GRR! INDY!" type of guy in this honestly. (which I know I just did, and for that I apologize for sounding like a docuhe) Is oval racing that much more dangerous than road course racing? I mean I understand with IR-05's it indeed was, but I was kind of wondering this.
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Mar 14, 2015 02:17
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His point is Senna et al. didn't try it. Conway and Speed have both tried Indy oval racing and come out scarred.
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Mar 14, 2015 02:17
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Senna's decision to not take part in what he considers a dangerous form of motorsport makes sense when you remember that his father was arguably one the greatest and most famous racers in history who died in a terrible crash at a high speed left hand turn. It's not perplexing in the slightest, regardless of him trying it personally. e- and yes Fuzzy, oval racing is more dangerous than road racing. Road racing can feature top speeds for a few seconds per lap, oval racing features top speeds being hit consistently for hours at a time. If you crash in a road race, the chances of it happening at the highest speed portion of a track is comparitively low, but on an oval it's likely that the crash happens above 200mph the majority of the time. Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Mar 14, 2015 |
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Mar 14, 2015 02:26
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*uncle But yeah, I don't blame the road racing crowd for not wanting to do ovals. Bräck, Zanardi, Conway. All European drivers from road course backgrounds that had horrendous accidents. There's definitely a slight omen.
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Mar 14, 2015 02:35
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VikingSkull posted:Senna's decision to not take part in what he considers a dangerous form of motorsport makes sense when you remember that his father was arguably one the greatest and most famous racers in history who died in a terrible crash at a high speed left hand turn. Yeah that's kind of what I was wondering. In any event is there anything Indy can truly do at this point re: ensuring that ovals don't feel like death traps or are they always going to feel that way? Kind of stuck in a weird predicament right now.
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Mar 14, 2015 02:40
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For the reasons already mentioned, you can't do "safe"open wheel oval racing. You are doing top speed all of them time with your sole means of conveyance and control exposed to the air. People will die. It happens. If you want safer open wheel racing? We already have that series. You want safer oval racing? Already have that too. Want to see a close race with drivers who are willing (either because of sheer balls or total desperation) to risk their lives to get paid to race? That's IndyCar's niche now. Get rid of that, and you have no one left watching.
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Mar 14, 2015 03:01
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The way to do "safe" open wheel racing is to not race them in packs, and have SAFER barriers. Anything more drastic than that (other than, say, trying to make catch fences safer or whatever) and you end up risking the appeal of oval racing in the first place.
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Mar 14, 2015 03:20
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George Zimmer posted:*uncle well hell, I knew that, too me ain't smart much FuzzySkinner posted:Yeah that's kind of what I was wondering. closed cockpits, or at least forward extensions to the roll hoop like sprinters have, fully enclosed wheel pods, and taller concrete walls so the cars that get airborne hit a flat surface, for starters e- though much slower, sprinters are still probably the most deadly form of racing. the drivers, fans and sanctioning bodies seem ok with this and have for decades this is not a fatal crash so don't worry lol e2 - hey cool, this was in the related vids, sprint car vs indycar racing with Alex Lloyd Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Mar 14, 2015 |
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Mar 14, 2015 03:31
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How to make oval racing safer: Install 90° banking, so that there is no risk of a high-speed impact into the outside wall.
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Mar 14, 2015 04:30
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WindyMan posted:How to make oval racing safer: the wall of death is incredibly safe, hence the name fans hold out a dollar and your favorite driver will grab it!
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Mar 14, 2015 04:35
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Alain Post posted:The way to do "safe" open wheel racing is to not race them in packs, and have SAFER barriers. Yeah, but once IndyCar found a 1.5 mile package where they got rid of pack racing and put it more in the drivers' hands fans complained and complained and complained.
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Mar 14, 2015 12:18
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Replace walls and fences with giant piles of cardboard boxes
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