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Kulkasha posted:It's not a hard game, just remember to keep the same groups of materia equipped to level them up faster. Matra Magic is another good one, that you can get right outside Midgard.
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YIKES Stay Gooned posted:That's not so much of a problem because you get a lot of slots to work with. The bigger problem is that sometimes you have to use certain people who you havent been using, and you have to do a looooot of swapping The game does have a feature to just swap all the materia from one character to another. Granted, if they have a different amount of materia slots or different linking slots you'll still have to do some manual rearranging. But you shouldn't generally have to unequip all the materia from one character and reequip another from scratch very often.
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Mar 14, 2015 19:56
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Schwartzcough posted:The game does have a feature to just swap all the materia from one character to another. Granted, if they have a different amount of materia slots or different linking slots you'll still have to do some manual rearranging. But you shouldn't generally have to unequip all the materia from one character and reequip another from scratch very often.
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Mar 14, 2015 20:00
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It's not intuitive, and I haven't played the game in like 8 years so I can't remember exactly how to get to it. A lot of people never found out it existed. Play around on the Materia screen for a bit and you'll probably find it.
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Mar 14, 2015 20:05
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YIKES Stay Gooned posted:That's not so much of a problem because you get a lot of slots to work with. The bigger problem is that sometimes you have to use certain people who you havent been using, and you have to do a looooot of swapping Did you know you can move someone's entire materia set to another char by selecting their name? You can also switch weapon or armor only by selecting the appropriate row. Schwartzcough posted:It's not intuitive, and I haven't played the game in like 8 years so I can't remember exactly how to get to it. A lot of people never found out it existed. Play around on the Materia screen for a bit and you'll probably find it. ^^^
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Mar 14, 2015 20:19
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It's something like, one of the options under arrange is also exchange, which takes you to the exchange screen. And from the exchange screen while you can move materia one at a time, you can (somewhat less obviously) swap an entire piece of equipment, or even an entire character's loadout, by moving left (?) from the individual materia slots to select the equipment or the character. I'll absolutely admit that the UI for doing it could be made considerably more obvious. I remember discovering exchanging in general relatively early, but it was quite a long time after that before I discovered mass-exchanging by equipment/character.
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Mar 14, 2015 20:20
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Schwartzcough posted:It's not intuitive, and I haven't played the game in like 8 years so I can't remember exactly how to get to it. A lot of people never found out it existed. Play around on the Materia screen for a bit and you'll probably find it. I'm pretty sure it is an option on the PHS screen.
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No, as I and Vil said: Arrange->Exchange->pick name or armor / weapon row under a name. You can also swap weapon and armor materia on the same chat by doing this. It's actually quite flexible. E: I was going to post screens but I seem to have lost my Vita saves  and it will take me a couple hours to have time to unlock the game enough to show it. Ee: apparently the Vita can't take screens of PS1 games  . Maybe I'll run through it on my steam copy later.
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Mar 14, 2015 20:46
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I had a PC save and just took some screens; I'll post them in a second. Redemption! Here's the arrange option:  And the exchange option!  You can cursor over the single materia, the character's name, or choose an entire row like shown:  Let's switch this materia on Big Balla's weapon here with a rude dude's...  ... and done!  That big empty space on the right shows your materia so you can switch out from this screen but hey look this save is maybe an hour into the game? Lastdancer fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Mar 14, 2015 |
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Mar 14, 2015 20:59
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This is all blowing my mind.
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Mar 14, 2015 21:05
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what the gently caress
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ImpAtom posted:I'd say it was more hampered by the limits of the time period. ("I'm feeling sad. Time to throw myself off a cliff to perk up!") When I say that the translation was good for FFVI, I mean more that it actually sounded like somebody who speaks English on a daily basis wrote it. I'm sure that plenty of things were changed, but to be honest when it comes to translation I mostly always prefer a less accurate but more natural sounding one over the reverse.
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Mar 14, 2015 21:37
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Mechathief posted:I'm pretty sure it is an option on the PHS screen. I don't think so? I do know, however, that FF8 had a (really super useful) Junction Exchange option from the party member switch screen.
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Mar 14, 2015 21:43
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Yeah, I probably got it mixed up with that. You guys were definitely right-- it's in the Materia screen.
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My favorite e. Skill was the one outside Costa del sol, big guard? Or something.
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Mar 14, 2015 21:48
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Mechathief posted:I had a PC save and just took some screens; I'll post them in a second. Redemption!  That's clickable?!
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Mar 14, 2015 21:48
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Mechathief posted:You can cursor over the single materia or choose an entire row like shown: You can also select a character's name which will allow you to transfer everything they have at once. I remember using this function constantly over 15 years ago so people finding out about it in 2015 is pretty great. Come on people, it's an RPG, you're supposed to try every menu option you come across. 
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Mar 14, 2015 21:51
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How the gently caress do you people not know this? Do you not push all the buttons on your screen at least once?
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Mar 14, 2015 21:54
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I figured out how to swap the materia when the one guy said it was possible but i have a habit of spending a lot of time in menus trying every button and direction to make sure I don't miss anything it's a learned behavior but gently caress if I can remember which game made me have to do it, I think it was FFTA since I didn't have the manual to that game.
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Mar 14, 2015 21:57
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:How the gently caress do you people not know this? Do you not push all the buttons on your screen at least once? People have quit FFT because they thought the game was just Ramza and Delita vs. 6 different enemies, instead of hitting L1 or R1 at the formation screen.
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Mar 14, 2015 21:59
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How Rude posted:People have quit FFT because they thought the game was just Ramza and Delita vs. 6 different enemies, instead of hitting L1 or R1 at the formation screen. I refuse to believe that there are people this stupid.
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Mar 14, 2015 22:00
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I did that, but it was with Tactics Advance.
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Mar 14, 2015 22:01
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Andrast posted:I refuse to believe that there are people this stupid. 10 year old children can have trouble understanding these kinds of things. Even then, the game doesn't really make it obvious what the gently caress is going on in the formation screen, I could see someone hitting start and getting confused.
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Mar 14, 2015 22:01
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Andrast posted:I refuse to believe that there are people this stupid. I did this the first time I played because there's 0 indication whatsoever that you can do anything else on that screen.
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Mar 14, 2015 22:03
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There is a difference between making the mistake once/twice at the beginning and literally quitting the game over it.
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Mar 14, 2015 22:05
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:How the gently caress do you people not know this? Do you not push all the buttons on your screen at least once? If it had something around it to indicate it was a dropdown menu I'd feel like an idiot, but as it is I'm just happy to finally know.
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Mar 14, 2015 22:06
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I did the same the first time I played and got poor Ramza slaughtered.
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Mar 14, 2015 22:06
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When I was 6 i had to get my dad to help me figure out how to get out of the house you start in in Pokemon Red
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Mar 14, 2015 22:09
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When I first played FF VIII I found it really difficult and barely managed to complete it
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Mar 14, 2015 22:16
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Nihilarian posted:Those aren't buttons, they're words. I looked at "Arrange" and went, "oh, hey, I can arrange my Materia here. Thanks text!" Almost every button in Final Fantasy VII's menu is a word, and you already know "Check" which is positioned the exact same way opens up a separate menu for checking your magic and such. I barely understood any English back when I first played VII so materia changing your stats for example did go over my small head, but even then I at least knew how menus worked. So no, you should all continue feeling like idiots.
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A Steampunk Gent posted:When I first played FF VIII I found it really difficult and barely managed to complete it Same, if you try and play it like other FF games/ RPG's like I did (actually levelling up, using magic and summons to do most of your damage) it really makes life difficult.
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Mar 14, 2015 22:31
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the game never shows you you can do that in the tutorial when you first get the cellphones so i think people can be forgiven for not catching it
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Mar 14, 2015 22:36
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Endorph posted:the game never shows you you can do that in the tutorial when you first get the cellphones so i think people can be forgiven for not catching it No, but it shows you in the materia tutorial, which happens so early that trading three materias between three characters seems almost pointless 
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Supposedly the FF15 demo becomes available for code input (for physical orders) and download (for everybody with digital, and those with successfully entered codes) a minute after midnight leading into Tuesday, Eastern time. And that miscommunications at SCEA PSN is the reason there won't be a digital pre-download of the whole Type-0 affair (35 gigs?). It took forever to get Tokyo freaking Jungle the day it launched, how bad is this going to be. Same day as Hardline launches.
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The amount of 'You can CLICK Arrange?' is almost like 'That's the sky?' in the Phoenix Wright LP. Wasn't IX the only game from VII-on not to have not have any forced tutorials? Until XIII came along and let you skip every tutorial if you wanted to.
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Mar 14, 2015 23:20
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ApplesandOranges posted:XIII came along and let you skip every tutorial if you wanted to. the whole game is a tutorial
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Mechathief posted:I had a PC save and just took some screens; I'll post them in a second. Redemption! Nice, thanks for doing that so I didn't have to  forbidden lesbian posted:When I was 6 i had to get my dad to help me figure out how to get out of the house you start in in Pokemon Red My 5 year old is just getting into games now and I have a much better appreciation for how things that I think are intuitive are really not and are just trained behaviours from 30 years of playing video games.
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Andrast posted:I refuse to believe that there are people this stupid. I have a friend who quit Mass Effect 2 because he couldn't figure out how to open the first door you come across at the beginning of the game.
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Mar 15, 2015 00:20
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None of the materia arranging shortcuts were in the original Japanese version of FFVII. They were added to the US release, like the Emerald and Ruby Weapons, and brought back to Japan in the International version. It took me forever to discover them too. The cool thing about VII is that you can just pick your favourite characters to bring with you, since the only differences are slight stat changes and their limit breaks.
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That loving Sned posted:None of the materia arranging shortcuts were in the original Japanese version of FFVII. They were added to the US release, like the Emerald and Ruby Weapons, and brought back to Japan in the International version. Well, unless your favorite character is Aerith of course! she dies
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