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Another thing that really rubs my rhubarb
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 19:06 |
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Legacy R/U - Mountain Island ~ enters the battlefield tapped if you played it from your hand.
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 19:06 |
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mr. mephistopheles posted:I'm deeply ambivalent to any complaints of 'no fetchlands' or any of that, but thats largely because I don't play this game, but from an outside perspective, I always saw fetchlands as a rather low effort borderline sleazy way to get players to fork over green, I always felt strongly that staple mana lands should have been uncommon and rare reserved for omnicolored lands or utility. I'd much rather that wizards found new and interesting mechanics to drive lands instead of recycling a set of old ones over and over and over as the meta revolves a bit too quickly. But as land mechanics are indeed a very dry design space and theres not much they could do, I can't blame them too much. This is awesome. Let's paraphrase. quote:I don't actually play, so wizards has zero incentive to please me or care about my opinions in any way. That said, they should make interesting new lands other than ones that just produce two different colors, and make them uncommon too.
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 19:51 |
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I really don't get why people complain about unrealism, like do they think time travel itself is realistic
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 20:02 |
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Tactical Magical Realism
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 20:08 |
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forbidden lesbian posted:I really don't get why people complain about unrealism, like do they think time travel itself is realistic Well you see in reality, dragons can't
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 20:12 |
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whydirt posted:Tactical Magical Realism Many years later, as he faced the dragon brood, Planeswalker Sarkhan Vol was to remember that distant afternoon when his father took him to discover firebreathing.
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 20:21 |
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forbidden lesbian posted:I really don't get why people complain about unrealism, like do they think time travel itself is realistic I will say I don't like the time travel trope of "everyone is back but slightly different!" but who cares, this set's lore is mostly sweet and Sarkhan Vol is the gooniest dork. The duress flavor text really points out what a nit-wit he is. I really wish there were more references to how goofy his understanding of the world is.
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 20:35 |
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I am ore upset that Sarkhan is Temur than I am about any other flavor violation. That's just too many colors to represent through his lifetime.
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 20:44 |
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Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:I am ore upset that Sarkhan is Temur than I am about any other flavor violation. That's just too many colors to represent through his lifetime. Next Sarkhan is Mono-White after he is compleated by Elesh Norn
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 21:02 |
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His time travel has turned him into an old style walker and he now has access to all five colors.
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 21:14 |
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Alaan posted:His time travel has turned him into an old style walker and he now has access to all five colors. I always sort of assumed that lore-wise walkers were similar to players* in the sense that they had access to all five colors of mana but just chose what appealed to them or best fit their style. Like, if Sorin found his philosophy shifting and decided he wanted to start forming mana bonds with mountains and burning the poo poo out of everything, there wouldn't really be anything stopping him. *Meaning, of course, the sort of stereotypical casual Vorthos who thinks of himself as "a blue mage" or whatever, rather than the practical reality of a lot of tournament players where you end up playing what you think is best for the Grand Prix or whatever.
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 21:24 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Sure, typed at-will flippylands are reasonable if you're looking for something new to put in Conspiracy 2016 so you can ban the original duals in Legacy and keep the format from being strangled by the reserve list. But they're not a cycle they can just print in standard whenever they want, because the usual criteria for a new land cycle is "can't be strictly better than basics", not "can't be strictly better than alpha duals". Banning the original duals in favor of a functional reprint isn't going to fix the cost of legacy. Modern has shown that as individual card prices drop the high card but the rest of the cards in the deck rise up. Also you'd do better to not ban the cards that the entire legacy playing field has to get new people to play. You'd do better to just make the new lands thereby having even more lands in circulation.
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 21:54 |
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Very excited to see the new limited format. Others have mentioned the interesting change in removal, but I'm also curious to see what sort of affect the proliferation of 2/3s and 2/4s will have on the format (did you know there wasn't a single 2/4 at ANY cost in the entirety of Khans and Fate? I missed giant spider...), even if 2/2s might not be quite as rampant as before.
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JerryLee posted:I always sort of assumed that lore-wise walkers were similar to players* in the sense that they had access to all five colors of mana but just chose what appealed to them or best fit their style. Like, if Sorin found his philosophy shifting and decided he wanted to start forming mana bonds with mountains and burning the poo poo out of everything, there wouldn't really be anything stopping him. Its been established that not only can ones colour alignment change, but it doesn't limit you to solely using that colour of mana; Jace can apparently use White and Black mana despite being shown as mono-blue in all his iterations so far, and the Blue Preator, Vorinclex can do similar. What resources you're willing to use or are aware of using are probably further defined by your personal philosophy/knowledge and how you justify it within that framework, as well as what magic you'll use may also be affected by how well you can understand it, because it aligns with your philosophy. So a Vorthosy Green Mage might stick with green and not use blue because they don't like playing the game in the cunning deceptive manipulative manner that blue requires them.
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 22:10 |
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forbidden lesbian posted:I really don't get why people complain about unrealism, like do they think time travel itself is realistic Grogs hated non-magical healing in 4th edition D&D because of "verisimilitude." That's right, REALISTICALLY only magical healing makes sense because Get the h*ck out of here with your Healing Salve MTG, you're loving up the believability of your magical setting for people.
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 22:18 |
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Rimusutera posted:Its been established that not only can ones colour alignment change, but it doesn't limit you to solely using that colour of mana; Jace can apparently use White and Black mana despite being shown as mono-blue in all his iterations so far, and the Blue Preator, Vorinclex can do similar. I don't know if you meant either Jin-Gitaxis, Blue Praetor, or Green Praetor, Vorinclex.
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 22:57 |
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Count Bleck posted:I don't know if you meant either Jin-Gitaxis, Blue Praetor, or Green Praetor, Vorinclex. I think he means Vorinclex since green can make mana of any color a lot of the times, but I don't know where that would of come up since I don't remember any stories involving him on the website.
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 23:10 |
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MTGSalvation's wiki (Sorry) has Jin-Gitaxias being apparently able to use White and Black mana. It still doesn't provide any proof, though. Phyrexian Mana is weird.
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 00:31 |
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Yeah I meant Jin-Gitaxis. Also, if MTGSalvation's wiki is where I remember reading that than I'm eternally sorry.
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 00:37 |
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JerryLee posted:*Meaning, of course, the sort of stereotypical casual Vorthos who thinks of himself as "a blue mage" Does this actually exist
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 00:40 |
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TheKingofSprings posted:Does this actually exist The majority of Magic players talk like this.
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 00:48 |
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red wizard needs food badly *eats cheetos and then picks up your cards*
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 00:50 |
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TheKingofSprings posted:Does this actually exist 100%. Just think of anyone you've ever heard bitch about "blue players." Though their psychographic isn't likely anything like pure Vorthos.
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 00:52 |
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Bread Set Jettison posted:red wizard needs food badly *eats cheetos and then picks up your cards* Please don't make fun of people who like to play Red, they're just trying to field a competitive 72 cent deck like the rest of us
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 00:53 |
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LGD posted:100%. Just think of anyone you've ever heard bitch about "blue players." Though their psychographic isn't likely anything like pure Vorthos. Yeah, I don't really think that's a psychographic thing. It's just that casual players tend to think of the colors as archetypes unto themselves. e: Like, competitive players still tend to think of themselves as aggro players or control players. This is just the uninformed version of that. Dr. Stab fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Mar 15, 2015 |
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rabidsquid posted:Please don't make fun of people who like to play Red, they're just trying to field a competitive 72 cent deck like the rest of us I would never, as I love to play red decks
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 01:00 |
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rabidsquid posted:Please don't make fun of people who like to play Red, they're just trying to field a competitive 72 cent deck like the rest of us Red players tend to be the most handsome, and physically active magic players. Source: I play red.
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 01:04 |
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SCG currently streaming TRUE REANIMATOR Standard deck that plays Bearer of the Heavens. Bearer + Rescue from the Underworld or Bearer + Soul of New Phyrexia is a thing that could happen. Yes.
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 01:05 |
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Fiend Computer posted:Red players tend to be the most handsome, and physically active magic players. Is the requirement playing red or playing mono-red? Because I mostly play red, but I'd never play mono-red.
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 01:06 |
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suicidesteve posted:Is the requirement playing red or playing mono-red? Because I mostly play red, but I'd never play mono-red. If you play red in a deck with other colors you're the eternal enemy to the true red players, who live closest to the land and are not confined by capitalism.
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 01:13 |
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So the only double-faced cards in Origins are going to be the Planeswalkers. This means that limited is going to be less impacted than during Innistrad, right?
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 01:24 |
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Minority Deport posted:So the only double-faced cards in Origins are going to be the Planeswalkers. This means that limited is going to be less impacted than during Innistrad, right? Very very very very much less yes. That said, I thought even during Innistrads DFCs were a pretty minor hassle, however you dealth with them.
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 01:27 |
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So I assume that the new printing process means that they can do what they wanted to do in isd, and pack the proxy version of the card in the same pack?
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 01:34 |
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Archfiend of Depravity as anti GW Mastery tech.
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 01:39 |
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Rinkles posted:Archfiend of Depravity as anti GW Mastery tech. Dragon Throne of Tarkir for the mirror.
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 01:41 |
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I cant wait see how they decide to make Jace horribly broken this time. If we're lucky maybe they will just make him actually unusable with some wonky condition to flip with.
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 01:41 |
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Nomadic Scholar posted:I cant wait see how they decide to make Jace horribly broken this time. If you ignore the gigantic bugfuck mistake of JTMS, Jace's portfolio really isn't that offensive. He's still annoying as a character, but we're getting him in this set one way or another, so I don't see any real reason to wish for him to be unusable.
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 01:52 |
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Nomadic Scholar posted:I cant wait see how they decide to make Jace horribly broken this time. It will be hard for them to make another card as busted as Jace, the Living Guildpact but I believe they can break standard and eternal formats yet again.
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 02:13 |
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Nomadic Scholar posted:I cant wait see how they decide to make Jace horribly broken this time. Why would you ever want a card to be bad
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