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My team melted away and an enemy battleship was barreling down on my poor carrier. So I tried to ram it, without much success. He was taking his sweet time sinking me so I managed to get my torp bombers up and drop an impressive spread. But unfortunately a shot took out my rudder and I sailed helplessly into my own torpedoes.  Later the game thought that my tier 6 carrier was perfectly suitable to go up against a tier 8 carrier. No other carriers. I had the 1 torp, 1 dive and 1 fight mod and he cruised in with a 2 torp and 2 fight. I noticed right away by looking at his aircraft maneuvering that he knew what he was doing and after crushing my inferior fighters he just beelined for me and dropped two manual torp loads from very close range and sank me. Freaking bullshit. I don't mind losing to a better player but he had such a ridiculous advantage over me I couldn't even pretend I had a chance. A lot of pubbies were crying up the chat about overpowered torpedoes and torpedo bombers today.  Their boating skills were on par with the people in WoT who park their tanks out on in open fields nowhere near any cover and then cry about arty being too strong.
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Poil posted:My team melted away and an enemy battleship was barreling down on my poor carrier. So I tried to ram it, without much success. He was taking his sweet time sinking me so I managed to get my torp bombers up and drop an impressive spread. But unfortunately a shot took out my rudder and I sailed helplessly into my own torpedoes. Carrier two tiers higher specifically kitted out to kill carriers? No loving poo poo he beat you.
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Mar 15, 2015 02:25
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Watching leaked alpha vids made it look like the gunnery was pretty much Battlestations: Midway. Playing the beta, yeah, it is pretty much a 1:1 copy, so if you ever learned how to aim in that, you will be the best shot on your team. Shame they stripped out the pilotable torp and dive and level bombers, and the flooding model, and the destroyable bases, and the submarines but added a grind?
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Mar 15, 2015 02:29
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Somebody on my team decided to cover my platoonmate's destroyer by, well, covering him in torps. Halfway later in the game most of the destroyers collapsed on a St. Louis and I accidentally hit that guy with a spread I fired. I fired right after the St. Louis died and hit a 4 km shot on him with no lead. I'm actually really proud of that salvo.
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Mar 15, 2015 02:37
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My favorite shots are the ones where your aim is off and 3/4 of the salvo misses, but then one or two shots go wide and hit dead on for full damage and crits.
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Mar 15, 2015 02:39
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I'm starting to really dislike Fault Line.
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Mar 15, 2015 02:42
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I wish there were more maps, in general, but oh well.
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Mar 15, 2015 02:44
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What happened to the ice map? I saw it in both weekend events, but haven't seen it yet on closed. Neither in low tiers, or in my ranger.
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Mar 15, 2015 02:55
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The maps feel ridiculously cramped.
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Mar 15, 2015 03:07
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And here my main complaint with Fault Line is that nothing ever loving happens. Of course, the fact that islands block either your shortest course to the action or your line of fire like 90% of the time isn't helping there.
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Mar 15, 2015 03:09
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This is really fun and I can't wait to see it make Navy Field go down like the Lusitania.
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Mar 15, 2015 03:16
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Fart Car '97 posted:Today I got was driving a BB and two DDs let a volley of torpedoes off at me and another BB near me. We both went into evasive turns that caused our hulls to brush together. I had that happen to a teammate and I at the beginning of a match when we turned into each other. We tried going in opposite directions but were held to each other like magnets. I had to come to a full stop in order to magically demagnetize my ship from his. Physics is a cool subject.
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Mar 15, 2015 03:39
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The Cleveland is the best ship:   The game ended with me in the cap circle and maybe 10-15 seconds to winning. One BB on our side was still alive and two carriers. The Cleveland just chews up aircraft. That is one fun ship. What are you guys doing for upgrades? The ROF one was a no-brainer as was the AA boost on this ship, but the other two slots seem like a crap shoot.
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Mar 15, 2015 04:13
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The only upgrades I bother with are the ones that prevent my magazine from exploding 1/5th of the time. The other ones, I don't really care about because I'm a filthy casual. If you're in a ship with guns and you're going to get pounded, you might as well make yourself more durable. Carriers need some work, balance wise. In my first carrier, I felt horribly outclassed when going against higher ships. Mostly because the carriers had much better fighters, and the ships had much better AAA. I bleed planes like crazy in those games.
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Mar 15, 2015 04:20
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NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:The only upgrades I bother with are the ones that prevent my magazine from exploding 1/5th of the time. The other ones, I don't really care about because I'm a filthy casual. If you're in a ship with guns and you're going to get pounded, you might as well make yourself more durable. Get a Kongo and the credit cost for the upgrades won't matter any more.  Also the Langley is really bad, in most better carriers you can bait higher tier planes onto friendly AA.
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Mar 15, 2015 04:24
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NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:The only upgrades I bother with are the ones that prevent my magazine from exploding 1/5th of the time. The other ones, I don't really care about because I'm a filthy casual. If you're in a ship with guns and you're going to get pounded, you might as well make yourself more durable. Unlike other ships, better fighters on a better carrier will just annihilate langley fighters. The real problem with the langley is its really bad slowness which means it can't dodge torps.
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Mar 15, 2015 04:24
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Really hoping they add some battleship concept with the 9''/98 as the armament.
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Mar 15, 2015 04:25
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Where are these things like ROF upgrades? The only options I see on my ships are for things like reduced chance of crit to component/reduced repair time.
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AfroSquirrel posted:Where are these things like ROF upgrades? The only options I see on my ships are for things like reduced chance of crit to component/reduced repair time. You unlock additional slots for fancier modernizations on higher-tier ships. Although that first ROF/turret traverse mod actually reduces your rate of fire (the +ROF/-traverse one comes later).
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Mar 15, 2015 04:35
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My initial thoughts on this up to tier IV: Ramming someone "T-bone" style should do less damage to the guy hitting the T than the recipient. Ramming an island, even at 10kt because whoops my BB is going to hit an island, should do way more damage. Secondary weapons should get at least a 50% accuracy buff. Torpedo planes should have to drop from slightly (~200m) further away. Otherwise, awesome game.
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Mar 15, 2015 04:53
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Domination should take more cap points, games end too quick when the team decides to cap out.
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Mar 15, 2015 05:01
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I wish this game had replays, because I just had by far my best battle yet, in my Omaha. Four kills, ~150k credits and about 2,8k XP. The first several minutes were kinda uneventful, the usual long range shootout amidst islands. I wrecked a DD but that's about it. But then the enemy started capping, and I raced to defend. Arrived to find a DD hiding in a smokescreen and a St. Louis just arriving to speed up the cap even more. Started duking it out with the St. Louis, got some solid hits on him. The DD made the mistake of thinking I was distracted and emerged from the smoke, only to eat two of my torpedoes about three seconds before he would've finished the cap. At this point the St. Louis disappeared into the smoke and a Myogi barged in from behind some island. I started hammering him with shells while maneuvering to torp him, but then the St. Louis came back to disrupt that. He promptly ate a full three-torp spread flush in his side, and realising I was nearly dead and couldn't turn quickly enough to torp the Myogi before his secondaries would kill me, I rammed him in the side which killed us both. Then my team mopped up the rest and we won. gently caress, this game rules.  (we need a variant of that smiley with a captain's hat or something)
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randombattles.jpeg:  some fool in a Chester tried to ram my battleship. will_colorado fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Mar 15, 2015 |
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Mar 15, 2015 05:45
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I want my US battleships already. US cruisers are very fun rides and Japanese battleships are all good and well but I want the real deal.
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Mar 15, 2015 05:56
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ToiletDuckie posted:Torpedo planes should have to drop from slightly (~200m) further away. They default to further away. If someone is manually dropping them closer, they're playing intelligently and sound be rewarded. Working as intended.
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Mar 15, 2015 06:01
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Torp bombers also can get freaking shredded if they get too close against real (fuso or bigger for japanese and american when they get added) battleships. And if there's a cruiser hanging out by the BB, the planes are in real trouble.
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Mar 15, 2015 06:11
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These kancolle creeps are going to end up being the new wehraboos.
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Mar 15, 2015 06:34
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wehraboos are on the whole more annoying I think, but the poi is terrible right now. Show ends soon, so hopefully it'll pass.
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Holy gently caress the Omaha is amazing. If this is only the tier 5 I can only imagine that the next tiers are orgasmic.
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xthetenth posted:I want my US battleships already. US cruisers are very fun rides and Japanese battleships are all good and well but I want the real deal. I think the US BBs will be murder machines. Most of them have 3-4 triple turrets which allows for a far tighter spread than the Japanese double turrets. Judging from the Cleveland it seems to be that way here, same as it was in Navy Field.
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Adventure Pigeon posted:These kancolle creeps are going to end up being the new wehraboos. I always tell them that the IJN punished possession of anime by hanging - I tell them they called it "disgraceful semen paper". It stops most of them from talking. The rest lose their poo poo.
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The US has enough battleship classes to make two full lines of constructed warships, I count 17 classes reaching as far back as the St. Louis cruiser was built. Add to that the Alaskas, the unbuilt Montana and the 1920 South Dakota and you've got enough for two full trees plus a couple premiums, just missing something to go with the Montana at tier X Same as British destroyers really
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There're plenty of paper designs that were made before the Washington Naval Treaty that could fill in 9/10. Maybe use one of the Tillman designs for a tier 10.
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They need to implement it so that the closer you release your torps from the bombers, the higher the chance that they get completely wiped out. When IJN bombers came up against US Navy BBs, it was basically a death sentence within 100m. They should just make everyone go manual on the bombers and decide when they should release.
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Mar 15, 2015 08:25
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How are crits calculated? Location struck? Ammo type fired? I get them every now and then but it seems to be a crapshoot.
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Going up against the upgraded Saipan in my Independence made me realize quickly just how badly one tier higher fighters trump their lower tier counterparts. If the dude got more fighters on top of that he can just kinda shut you down for the game. Or in my current unupgraded Saipan game vs Two Upgraded Saipans 
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Mar 15, 2015 09:33
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So many Battleship players just seem to want to recreate the Yamato battle tonight 
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I'm a little surprised that the American carrier tree ends at the Essex rather than the Midway, with a gap in the IX spot. In the old blog spot the Essex had the IX spot and the Midway the X spot, is this change temporary until the Midway is modelled and done? That preliminary tech tree had the V: Bogue and no sign of the Saipan though... e: Speaking of the Saipan, the 1946 upgrade that removes a bunch of AA guns to add 5 artillery guns - are those "secondary" (automated) and/or dual-purpose AA guns? Seems kinda weird to remove AA that late to add some dinky artillery on a carrier 
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Pimpmust posted:I'm a little surprised that the American carrier tree ends at the Essex rather than the Midway, with a gap in the IX spot. In the old blog spot the Essex had the IX spot and the Midway the X spot, is this change temporary until the Midway is modelled and done? That preliminary tech tree had the V: Bogue and no sign of the Saipan though... The blatantly obvious missing ship and tier 9 candidate is the Yorktown class, but whether that's what actually happens or not is anyone's guess. Pretty sure those guns are secondaries, I recall forgetting about them and nearly losing a badly damaged cruiser in embarrassing circumstances in the beta weekend  Now that I've reached tier 4 I've found the problem with cruisers - there are battleships everywhere, and you just can't touch them. I remember on the last beta weekend I took my St. Louis out and soloed a really shittily driven Kawachi and Myogo at the same time, albeit badly damaged by the end; holy poo poo does that not work anymore, shells from both of those ships just tear the St Louis apart and you do gently caress all in return. Also in spectator mode I watched a destroyer, tier 3 or 4 I wasn't able to recognise, get the drop on a distracted Kongo coming out of smoke and around an island - it was critted to death from full hp in 3 volleys from the Kongo secondary battery, and only just launched a torpedo spread before exploding. Three of six torpedoes connected for about 1/4 of its hp plus flooding iirc. Edit: I think what I'm saying is there's a serious imbalance towards battleships that needs addressing somehow, at least in the tier 3-6 region. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Mar 15, 2015 |
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I've consistently seen Destroyer aces top even my "good game" Carrier runs in tier 4-6, getting 1700-2200 xp, poo poo be crazy. Granted, those are the higher tier japanese destroyers that can just murder anything with their torpedo spreads... Cruisers have a harder time versus battleships, what with being bigger targets with less torpedoes to launch (generally). You can get good hits on Battleships (see Citadel) but they are really big bags of HPs to take out with guns alone. The natural predator of the Battleship is the carrier though, even if the Destroyer can shank them real good too given half a chance.
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