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Read more Stop playing video games Don't be a little bitch
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Don't be a little bitch 
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Mar 16, 2015 18:11
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write every day first page is the hardest bros before hos
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Mar 16, 2015 18:19
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dont suck suck less be less sucky
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Mar 16, 2015 18:20
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Mar 16, 2015 18:38
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How do you do it? You write. You finish what you write. You look for publishers who publish "that kind of thing." Burma Shave.
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Mar 16, 2015 18:43
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so you want to write? stop playing video games and just write, write, write
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Mar 16, 2015 19:57
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Some writing advice: Words one after the other. Terrible Haiku.
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Mar 16, 2015 20:00
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I like to use my carriage return at totally rand om places
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Mar 16, 2015 20:07
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rejection slips are for pussies
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Mar 16, 2015 20:20
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So Writing You are difficult And I don't want to do you Yet I must Or else these stories Will drive me nuts - ej thribb, 17
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Mar 16, 2015 20:39
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The first haiku wasn't funny, and each subsequent haiku has been ten times less funny than the one before it
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Mar 16, 2015 20:42
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oh we were doing haikus?
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Mar 16, 2015 20:44
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In my case the DTs were just getting the best of me.
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Mar 16, 2015 20:51
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angel opportunity posted:The first haiku wasn't funny, and each subsequent haiku has been ten times less funny than the one before it man this isnt even a haiku wtf are you even trying
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Mar 16, 2015 20:56
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LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE posted:man this isnt ev
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Mar 16, 2015 21:32
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angel opportunity posted:The first haiku wasn't funny, and each subsequent haiku has been ten times less funny than the one before it lol at name change lol, lolol, lol lol doesn't care about syllable count in last line
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Mar 16, 2015 22:35
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Truth, Justice, The Thuderdome Way
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Mar 17, 2015 05:05
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Hey seb, are you guys making a thread for your bet between Muffin and SH or whatever, or do you not want to jinx it with goon project taint?
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Mar 17, 2015 13:08
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Please don't say goon taint, I find it triggering.
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Mar 17, 2015 14:16
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http://io9.com/2-secrets-to-writing-a-story-that-people-cant-tear-them-1691997576
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Mar 18, 2015 00:19
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angel opportunity posted:http://io9.com/2-secrets-to-writing-a-story-that-people-cant-tear-them-1691997576 That's actually not bad.
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Mar 18, 2015 01:00
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Hey Battuta, or anyone else who actually has stuff published. What is your process for getting something ~DONE~? I have like, three short stories that are kind of done, one I actually submitted but it was rejected. I think that one is good enough to revise heavily and try again, and the other two need heavy revision as well, but I want to submit them. I kind of took a break from writing at all for several months, so these are mostly from last summer. Do you tend to just say, "I'm going to completely finish this story and submit it within (timeframe)," or do you have several things that you are doing first/second drafts of all at once while constantly revising other stories that are further along? I know there is no correct answer to this, but I keep waffling between a bunch of poo poo and sometimes wonder if I would not be better off to just focus on one thing at a time and see it through to completion. For the story I mentioned above, which I submitted to Beneath Ceaseless Skies, I only was able to reach that point by setting very hard deadlines and just doing it even before I thought it was totally ready. I haven't set a deadline like that since, and I haven't "finished" a story since...
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Mar 18, 2015 02:56
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On short fiction I try to move pretty fast, cause even if it sells you're not going to get much out of it except improved skills, a sense of satisfaction, a couple hundred and a blog comment or two — so the real point is to finish, feel good, sell, find something new to work on, repeat. I do one story at a time but I don't have much patience. I write it, let it sit* a day or two (*poking at it constantly), send it out to friends for crits, forget about them if they take more than a week, do a draft, and start submitting. If it's a year old I'd probably give it focus for a couple days, do the pass/full draft, and treat it like a new finished story. I guess the short version is that yeah, I do one thing at a time. The finish line is getting a few eyes on it, reading the story top to bottom, and feeling good about it.
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Mar 18, 2015 03:22
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angel opportunity posted:Hey Battuta, or anyone else who actually has stuff published. You're kind of answering your own question here. I mean, "done" is a different term for different people. Some stories are never done for certain authors-- Tobias Wolff made changes to stories that he wrote decades ago for his 2005 prize-winning anthology. Whether you want to switch between stories or just focus on one is down to what keeps you consistently at the desk, but at some point you HAVE to send stuff out that's not perfect in your eyes. Perfect, for me, is down to knowing what you need to fix vs. looking for stuff that you think could be fixed. As soon as you've moved out of the former and are firmly in the latter, send it out. If all you get are rejections, then shop it some more or move on. As for one project vs. many, my personal preference is to only switch around when I feel like I'm not making any progress, when I feel like taking a week to work on something different would cause more good than harm. Usually, I want to get something done in as few sessions as I can.
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Mar 18, 2015 04:35
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angel opportunity posted:Hey Battuta, or anyone else who actually has stuff published. Write it, rewrite it, send it, forget it. I don't get people who rewrite the same story five times, it drives me up the loving wall.
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Mar 18, 2015 04:44
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angel opportunity posted:Hey Battuta, or anyone else who actually has stuff published. There's no real right answer but I think it's just knowing when something is done. I realised recently that I've been on the 'Final Draft' of something for a while but it feels like I'm just tinkering endlessly. Personally I things going on in different states, but that's because short stories generally lend themselves to that, and shorts help me take a break from editing the book I was working on. I think that when you get to the tinkering stage then you just need to admit that it's as done as it's going to get. Anything else really just stems from a fear of getting your work rejected. At least that's how it is for me.
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Mar 19, 2015 13:10
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I'm trying to take all the good advice you guys gave and finish a story. 4,000 words in since I got the first answers 
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Mar 19, 2015 13:34
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Finding somewhere you want to submit to can often be encouraging. So, do that, then submit it. Maybe revisit it to brush it up if it didn't get accepted some time, maybe not. You might hate it ravenkult but very rarely is something unsalvageable, though I know what you mean about people being too "precious" (is that right?) about it.
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Mar 19, 2015 16:23
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I'm always going to submit to CW first, haha (I say 'haha' in this thread rather than 'lol') and then I will work my way down from there.
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Mar 19, 2015 16:25
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angel opportunity posted:I'm always going to submit to CW first, haha (I say 'haha' in this thread rather than 'lol') and then I will work my way down from there. The (sorta) nice thing about CW is they'll usually reject you in about 2 days so you don't have to wait a few weeks to submit it elsewhere!
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Mar 19, 2015 17:33
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Yeah, my ultimate goal as a writer is to get something published there, but it's a bonus that they do rejections so fast.
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Mar 19, 2015 17:34
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Yeah I'd like to get something published there too. I guess just try and finish something and make it good. A large amount of writing out there is probably bad, so at least putting something together with competence and care is already a plus.
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Mar 19, 2015 18:17
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angel opportunity posted:Hey seb, are you guys making a thread for your bet between Muffin and SH or whatever, or do you not want to jinx it with goon project taint? Yes, on 1 April. It will be open to anyone, 5k/month words with a toxx.
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Mar 19, 2015 21:12
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For novels only or is short fiction permissible?
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Mar 19, 2015 21:23
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angel opportunity posted:For novels only or is short fiction permissible? Not fussed. I'll have some kind of minimum word limit but if you want to toxx to a longer form bit of writing, that will be a place you can do it.
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Mar 19, 2015 21:38
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okay, i will probably take this angel opportunity to  once the thread is up
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Mar 19, 2015 21:39
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angel opportunity posted:Yeah, my ultimate goal as a writer is to get something published there, but it's a bonus that they do rejections so fast. I like Apex a lot. I'm shortlisted there right now, but I'm not very optimistic.
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Mar 19, 2015 22:28
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ravenkult posted:I like Apex a lot. I'm shortlisted there right now, but I'm not very optimistic. Good luck! I've been looking at a lot of the no payment/royalty/token payment stuff at the moment to try and get something published in an attempt to build some publishing creds. I want to have some chops behind me if I do ever submit to CW or Beneath Ceaseless Skies.
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Bompacho posted:Good luck! It's not really a viable strategy. Try some of the semi pro magazines instead, some of them have good cred. Most of the royalty/no pay markets are poo poo and all editors know this.
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