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Control Volume posted:Do you have any services beyond just electricity and water set up for that area? I've found that when a separated area doesn't want to grow, plopping down a couple things like an elementary school or fire house raises the worth enough to make a couple buildings appear, and once one is there the rest follow pretty effortlessly. I also lower residential taxes occasionally and I don't know what that does but I like to think it helps!! Oh, I just meant that I have the roads all set up; I don't have the area zoned for anything since there's no demand. I'll check if zoning/adding services creates demand.
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Is there any way to fix railroad congestion? I have two cargo stations hooked up to the outside connection, and if I hook up my passenger station the main railroad track just gets slammed with trains.
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Mar 17, 2015 20:49
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Badger of Basra posted:Is there any way to fix railroad congestion? I have two cargo stations hooked up to the outside connection, and if I hook up my passenger station the main railroad track just gets slammed with trains. Don't hook your intracity trains up to the regional line, simple as that. I have two parallel circuits in my city, one for freight (which connects to the region) and one for passengers, which loops within the city.
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Mar 17, 2015 20:51
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Badger of Basra posted:Is there any way to fix railroad congestion? I have two cargo stations hooked up to the outside connection, and if I hook up my passenger station the main railroad track just gets slammed with trains. Just like when fighting ghosts, never cross the streams. Off-map freight and passenger can share a network, just make sure to only have one or two passenger stations. Your in-city freight system should be totally isolated, sometimes you can share it with the outside world connection but only if your off-map freight traffic is fairly low. Your in-city passenger system should always be 100% isolated from everything else, SPECIALLY your outside connection. Every passenger station you build that is connected off the map will get a spam of off-map trains.
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Mar 17, 2015 20:54
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simosimo posted:Wicked, will check that out. Beating a deadhorse here [i apologise], will the sketch models need a UV map, or are they 'generated' from the textures you apply with the face tool yourself. Bit late but I was tired and fell asleep after having been awake for more than 24 hours to mod this game, but to answer your question: What happens is you generate U/V coordinates by unwrapping the mesh. You can leave it at that, but a lot of times you'll want to move vertices around a bit to either use all the space efficiently, or to arrange the UVs more sensibly. Edges can be welded together, split, etc. but basically for this game every part of the texture needs to be on one "sheet" or file.
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Mar 17, 2015 20:54
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Baronjutter posted:Also just like in real life sometimes government stimulation is needed to get the economy going if it stagnates. Every building you plop needs workers, and R demand is entirely a function of demand for workers. Plop down a freight station? Bam you just generated a bunch of jobs, which stimulates residential demand, which grows enough to generate some I or C demand and suddenly the machine is running again.
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Mar 17, 2015 20:56
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Lester Shy posted:Oh, I just meant that I have the roads all set up; I don't have the area zoned for anything since there's no demand. I'll check if zoning/adding services creates demand. 'Demand' is a little misleading, even if all three bars are empty you can still zone new neighbourhoods and people will gradually move in. Those bars really only tell you if you have a meaningful shortage of one type of zone, i.e. if there are not enough jobs for your current resident population you'll get some industrial/office demand, etc.
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Mar 17, 2015 20:56
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Alakaiser posted:For all of its flaws, I did like SC2013's baseball field: It's a good thing since art and UI is where SC really did work and was attractive. Skylines took those and made a great game with them.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:01
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Is it possible in the asset editor to import a building model for, say an industrial building, and use it as something else (monument, university, etc) My main motivation is I want to have plppable industry buildings that have a lot size bigger than 4x4 since wall to wall factories are ruining my immersion
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Mar 17, 2015 21:04
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Jamsque posted:'Demand' is a little misleading, even if all three bars are empty you can still zone new neighbourhoods and people will gradually move in. Those bars really only tell you if you have a meaningful shortage of one type of zone, i.e. if there are not enough jobs for your current resident population you'll get some industrial/office demand, etc. I like the idea of a new map having dozens of homeless people already there waiting for you to zone R.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:09
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Chard posted:I like the idea of a new map having dozens of homeless people already there waiting for you to zone R. They are the captains of industry that just left the parasitic "society" behind and are ready to build up your galt's gultch.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:10
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Noyemi K posted:Bit late but I was tired and fell asleep after having been awake for more than 24 hours to mod this game, but to answer your question: I getcha. I found a plugin called SketchUV. If I were to texture the model in Sketchup by choosing and paintdropping the textures i want, could SketchUV generate this one sheet UVmap for me? Had enough learning for one night. I ended making a piano! Good fun, now to get poo poo working.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:16
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If there's no demand for either industry or commercial, will people just NOT bother with those jobs? Commercial places keep getting abandoned cause there aren't enough customers, and industry places keep getting abandoned cause there aren't enough workers, but there's plenty of people! If a commercial area isn't close enough to residential, will people not bother driving there?
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Mar 17, 2015 21:22
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simosimo posted:I getcha. I found a plugin called SketchUV. If I were to texture the model in Sketchup by choosing and paintdropping the textures i want, could SketchUV generate this one sheet UVmap for me? Had enough learning for one night. No idea. I've always done UV/texture mapping the normal (less intuitive) way and the texture images pixel-by-pixel. Max iirc has what you're looking for I think, or at least its UV tools are fairly good, but I hated using Max and no longer qualify for a student license anyway since their requirements changed.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:26
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Rather than Residential/Commercial/Industrial demand just think of those three bars as representing homelessness / shoelessness / joblessness. Although I guess shoelessness gets lumped in together with crushing boredom just to make it confusing.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:26
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Demand and unemployment seem to be vaguely decoupled but basically build industrial and commercial based on unemployment and just use the demand to figure out what you need more of between commercial and industry, really.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:27
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Is not-enough-workers abandonment connected to location or type of industry? I have a bunch of industrial zones that basically stay abandoned, but I don't have any problem filling more offices. I'm not sure if it's connected to my new industrial zones being out of the city where farmland is. The only distant industrial zone I had that was successful was for oil but I ran out of oil after a few months.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:31
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Noyemi K posted:No idea. I've always done UV/texture mapping the normal (less intuitive) way and the texture images pixel-by-pixel. Max iirc has what you're looking for I think, or at least its UV tools are fairly good, but I hated using Max and no longer qualify for a student license anyway since their requirements changed. Cheers for your input - gonna hit the books and learn. Quite enjoyed what I know so far.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:33
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Baronjutter posted:Just like when fighting ghosts, never cross the streams. I would dearly, dearly love a central station building that actually acts as a terminus for trains and allows multiple railway lines all to join one station without joining each other. Being able to have the interrail connections come straight into my downtown area for outside freight and tourists, along with allowing in-city deliveries from local freight and commuters on both urban rail and metro, all without allowing a train from one system onto any others would alleviate so much grief in regards to train traffic in this game (though smaller stations which are effectively just platforms and elevated stations would be next on that list for me). Fortuitous Bumble posted:Is not-enough-workers abandonment connected to location or type of industry? I have a bunch of industrial zones that basically stay abandoned, but I don't have any problem filling more offices. I'm not sure if it's connected to my new industrial zones being out of the city where farmland is. The only distant industrial zone I had that was successful was for oil but I ran out of oil after a few months. There's quite a good chance that your education level is high enough, and unemployment is low enough that people who are out of work are not willing to work in industry due to their educations. Low level industry has large numbers of jobs for the uneducated, and you might just not have enough people like that any more. Overeducated people will take those jobs, but only if there's nothing else and unemployment is high. The solution I found was to zone an industrial area just a few buildings at a time, in an area with high service and park coverage. The buildings would quickly upgrade to level 3 and then remain stable because level 3 industry has more high-education jobs. Then I could zone the next few buildings, and repeat. Zoning too many buildings at once just led to the small team of low-education workers spreading too thin and buildings getting abandoned. Reveilled fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Mar 17, 2015 |
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Mar 17, 2015 21:35
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Fortuitous Bumble posted:Is not-enough-workers abandonment connected to location or type of industry? I have a bunch of industrial zones that basically stay abandoned, but I don't have any problem filling more offices. I'm not sure if it's connected to my new industrial zones being out of the city where farmland is. The only distant industrial zone I had that was successful was for oil but I ran out of oil after a few months. Something that trips people up is that employment is NOT agent based, it's entirely statistical. So if a building is missing workers it's not because of distance or transport, it's simply because there physically are not enough people in the city to work all the jobs. Jobs are assigned though by distance first, so it's usually always the zones at the edge of your city that get abandoned first. Worker agents going to their job successfully just gives the business some insignificantly tiny bonus to profitability or something. Basically if you have any R demand it means someone is missing workers. Lack of education can limit employment but contrary to what many of us previously though, over-educated workers slum it if they have to.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:38
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Fortuitous Bumble posted:Is not-enough-workers abandonment connected to location or type of industry? I have a bunch of industrial zones that basically stay abandoned, but I don't have any problem filling more offices. I'm not sure if it's connected to my new industrial zones being out of the city where farmland is. The only distant industrial zone I had that was successful was for oil but I ran out of oil after a few months. Check what kind of education levels are needed for the abandoned industry. My best guess is that your industry is demanding uneducated workers and don't have enough uneducated/low education cims. Edit: IM WRONG DISREGARD EVERYTHING I SAY BallsFalls fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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Mar 17, 2015 21:40
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I've also been tinkering with this. Since baseball fields seem to be wanted. Started with the sandlot.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:49
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Enos Shenk posted:I've also been tinkering with this. Since baseball fields seem to be wanted. Reminds me of the Hey Arnold episode where they convert a vacant lot into a baseball field 
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Mar 17, 2015 21:50
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The real 'problem' with sports field is probably animating little dudes to play on them.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:52
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BallsFalls posted:Check what kind of education levels are needed for the abandoned industry. My best guess is that your industry is demanding uneducated workers and don't have enough uneducated/low education cims. This isn't true. They dont have enough cims, period.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:55
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Is it just me or are all the citizens white?
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Baronjutter posted:Something that trips people up is that employment is NOT agent based, it's entirely statistical. So if a building is missing workers it's not because of distance or transport, it's simply because there physically are not enough people in the city to work all the jobs. Jobs are assigned though by distance first, so it's usually always the zones at the edge of your city that get abandoned first. Worker agents going to their job successfully just gives the business some insignificantly tiny bonus to profitability or something. That's kind of what I suspected, since it looked like in some instances the workers in high density residential were all getting pulled into the nearby commercial jobs instead. I guess I should just keep building more residential until unemployment starts rising? Also, this might just be a matter of taste, but I was kind of disappointed by the fact that high density zones only hold like 4-5 times as many people as low density. It was really satisfying finally getting skyscrapers in Simcity 4 and having an inner city that held as many people as a small town. Although I'm not sure if traffic model could handle it without more transportation options
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Mar 17, 2015 21:56
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I see everyone is using nice color mods, it makes it so much more vibrant 
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Mar 17, 2015 21:57
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Enigma89 posted:Is it just me or are all the citizens white? Something something city crime percentage.
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Mar 17, 2015 21:59
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Enigma89 posted:Is it just me or are all the citizens white? Except on the basketball court
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Mar 17, 2015 21:59
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They all look like bugs to me, crawling in and out of their metro holes.
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Mar 17, 2015 22:00
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Baronjutter posted:Also just like in real life sometimes government stimulation is needed to get the economy going if it stagnates. Every building you plop needs workers, and R demand is entirely a function of demand for workers. Plop down a freight station? Bam you just generated a bunch of jobs, which stimulates residential demand, which grows enough to generate some I or C demand and suddenly the machine is running again. Doesn't industry generate income from exports? I thought the entire point was to make shitloads of money from exporting all the wood.
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Mar 17, 2015 22:03
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SynthOrange posted:They all look like bugs to me, crawling in and out of their metro holes. They are bugs SynthOrange, they are.
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simosimo posted:Firing up the Sketchup debate again now that i'm done with work. Hey there Simosimo, this is a result of the FBX file having an improper/no UVW unwrap setup. As Noyemi mentioned, you'll want to find a way to generate UVs. And because of that, you won't be able to use repeating textures like it sounds like you have. You'll have to create maps (that look like this) where each "part" is flattened out and textured individually. Go read up on uvw unwraps, diffuse texturing, and ambient occlusion baking. That should be a ton of material to get you started.
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The ex-Maxis employee who has been making custom assets for CSKY has set up a crowdfunding page. It looks like he's hoping to turn modding into a part-time job while he looks for another job. His work is really good, so it might be worth supporting him: https://www.patreon.com/gula EDIT: For the modders in the thread, that guy has posted a time lapse video on how he made his in-n-out asset: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haio5OWhYD8 CompeAnansi fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Mar 17, 2015 |
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Mar 17, 2015 22:06
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OwlFancier posted:Doesn't industry generate income from exports? I thought the entire point was to make shitloads of money from exporting all the wood. Industry generates income but also tons of traffic. I have no problem with money in the game, by the time you unlock offices you're probably sitting on millions in the bank and might as well be playing in unlimited money mode. Traffic on the other hand... Depends on your goals. If you want tons and tons of money then more industry is good, but eventually the main bottleneck to your success is traffic, not money.
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Well, yeah but turning off the traffic by getting rid of industry isn't very challenging. You get lots of money either way but I dunno, I kinda like trying to build the most efficient city, more income per head and whatnot.
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Mar 17, 2015 22:10
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=409590909 Saw someone ask for my lightless 6 lane intersection, here you go.
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Baronjutter posted:Just like when fighting ghosts, never cross the streams. As someone who's taken Amtrak in the midwest knows it's a horrible idea. *continues waiting another hour for freight train traffic to die down*
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10% of my city's population just moved out.  I've had water and sewage running just fine, police, fire and health service coverage is solid, schools are okay, and then... 10% of the population moved out. It kinda seems tied to when I up some zoning to high-density residential and commercial from low-density, but I have no idea why that would take the city's population down that far.
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