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Lemming posted:I think self-driving cars are going to put a lot more people out of work than robot fast food, at least in the near future. Self Driving Semi trucks and automated cashiers are going to wipe out 3/4 of middle america on their own.
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More good news from wisconsin(and other places)!quote:This week, Wisconsin kicked off a series of hearings on Governor Scott Walker’s proposed budget, which would slash about $300 million from the University of Wisconsin system over two years, funnel hundreds of millions to build a pro-basketball stadium, and cut deeply from funds for health care, food stamps and public media.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:25
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:More good news from wisconsin(and other places)! Hm, hail satan.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:27
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Spaceman Future! posted:If anything its pretty telling that they have no qualms about blowing a few mil on a lawsuit. If it wasn't still ridiculously more profitable to keep screwing employees and take the PR and Legal hit they wouldnt be dragging their feet. If its worth that much money to them to hold wages down I don't see how anyone could consider their current payment model anything but exploitative and unethical but you will still have people lining up to blow them because they think they're America's next billionaire in waiting once they have their get rich quick idea, any day now. The McDonalds lawsuit isn't really about minimum wage, it's part of a larger legal issue for them (whether franchisees are treated as individual businesses or part of the greater corporate whole.). The wage ordinance isn't going to come close to costing enough to justify a lawsuit; on the other hand, being held responsible for labor violations absolutely would. This is just an alternative avenue for them to fight "joint employer" status in.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:29
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:More good news from wisconsin(and other places)! Scott Walker has the future on his mind. His future. Not yours or your children.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:36
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Kalman posted:The McDonalds lawsuit isn't really about minimum wage, it's part of a larger legal issue for them (whether franchisees are treated as individual businesses or part of the greater corporate whole.). The wage ordinance isn't going to come close to costing enough to justify a lawsuit; on the other hand, being held responsible for labor violations absolutely would. This is just an alternative avenue for them to fight "joint employer" status in. I dont really draw a line between indirect screwing and direct screwing since the net end result is exploitative labor practices that McDonalds is trying to avoid paying more for. The recipient of the increased amount is immaterial to the amount of money mcdonalds is willing to spend to keep the status quo or close to it, which also tells you how much money they think they are making off the current practices which ends up being a pretty sickening amount. CommieGIR posted:Scott Walker has the future on his mind. Walker is taking away money from privileged white liberal students and upgrading locker facilities for minority majority basketball players who have achieved the American dream. YOURE the real racist CommieGIR. Spaceman Future! fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Mar 18, 2015 |
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Mar 18, 2015 18:37
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Fried Chicken posted:There is a solid case that the west is on the precipice of scarcity being a political choice rather than result of circumstances, just like famines are today. But that's a topic for another thread. Traditional papers are in sad shape and shock articles drive traffic? That or the editorial boards of these papers don't actually do any work and just rubber stamp terrible decisions that a hint of political awareness and 2 minutes of googling could prevent. Or they don't think these decisions are terrible at all and we have a much longer way to go toward racial understanding than any of us originally thought.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:50
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Spaceman Future! posted:Walker is taking away money from privileged white liberal students and upgrading locker facilities for minority majority basketball players who have achieved the American dream. YOURE the real racist CommieGIR. So that they can run around and injure themselves for our amusement. It's like if you watch Mandingo and think of it as a social welfare documentary.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:50
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haveblue posted:A computer that can upsell (or have any kind of conversation a human would be completely comfortable with) is right under fusion power and moon bases on the list of things that have been 10 years away for decades. Yeah, no. I work in eCommerce and our upselling techniques are preeeety awesome. The best tactic is to sell you on something cheap, get your credit card, and then upsell you at that point. Believe me when I tell you that I wouldn't have a job unless I was very good at upselling people via a computer. Hell, I've been upsold to a large fry at a loving Carl's Jr. kiosk. They're more complicated than burping your order at a cashier, but everyone under 30 seems to use them. Are y'all living in a different world?
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Mar 18, 2015 18:51
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Spaceman Future! posted:I dont really draw a line between indirect screwing and direct screwing since the net end result is exploitative labor practices that McDonalds is trying to avoid paying more for. The recipient of the increased amount is immaterial to the amount of money mcdonalds is willing to spend to keep the status quo or close to it, which also tells you how much money they think they are making off the current practices which ends up being a pretty sickening amount. The point was more that if there wasn't a segregation between small and large employers in the bill, McDonalds very possibly wouldn't even have challenged it. It's not the wages that they care about (or not as much at any rate - I'm sure they'd rather not pay the higher wages, but not to the point of launching litigation), it's them being categorized as a single entity rather than the franchisees being treated as individual entities.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:54
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Gravel Gravy posted:So that they can run around and injure themselves for our amusement. Youre acting like knowing someone who owns Black Dynamite dvd isnt a clear license to raid and pillage low income communities across the country with adequate race card insurance. Which of course makes you a god drat ivory tower racist and bigot, why do you attack our christian nation?
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Mar 18, 2015 18:56
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Traditional papers are in sad shape and shock articles drive traffic?
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In which the Fresh Prince calls C-SPAN's Washington Journal program (on the Republican line).
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Mar 18, 2015 18:57
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Radbot posted:Yeah, no. I work in eCommerce and our upselling techniques are preeeety awesome. The best tactic is to sell you on something cheap, get your credit card, and then upsell you at that point. Believe me when I tell you that I wouldn't have a job unless I was very good at upselling people via a computer. There don't seem to be any Carl's Jr.s on the east coast, so yes, I am living in a different world. I know upselling can be done as part of an electronic purchase process but he's talking about having the computer replace a cashier and carry out spoken English conversations, which is a whole other ball game.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:57
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Spaceman Future! posted:Self Driving Semi trucks and automated cashiers are going to wipe out 3/4 of middle america on their own. It'll be great when we reach peak logistical efficiency and driverless semis are delivering freight to employee-free fully automated stores and fulfillment centers that nobody can afford to buy from.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:58
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Joementum posted:In which the Fresh Prince calls C-SPAN's Washington Journal program (on the Republican line). I was kind of sad when they cut him off.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:59
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Kalman posted:The point was more that if there wasn't a segregation between small and large employers in the bill, McDonalds very possibly wouldn't even have challenged it. It's not the wages that they care about (or not as much at any rate - I'm sure they'd rather not pay the higher wages, but not to the point of launching litigation), it's them being categorized as a single entity rather than the franchisees being treated as individual entities. Just for background on this for people unaware basically what happened was employees went after McDonald's corporate for the horrible labor conditions, McDonald's Corporate said "Hey, not our problem, we can't micromanage ever single franchise" and the people going after McDonald's corporate said the gently caress you can't, you micromanage ever single aspect of every single franchise down to the soap in the restrooms, you can't play both sides and McDonald's realized they had kind of dug themselves a hole and desperately started trying to find a way out of it.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:00
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haveblue posted:There don't seem to be any Carl's Jr.s on the east coast, so yes, I am living in a different world. Yeah, training people to push buttons on screens and spend small amounts of money with little prompting would take generations of technology to perfect. Now if you will excuse me candy crush has a new level pack. Or I would, if the game talked to me in clear spoken English because somehow that matters when pushing multilingual buttons. Rhesus Pieces posted:It'll be great when we reach peak logistical efficiency and driverless semis are delivering freight to employee-free fully automated stores and fulfillment centers that nobody can afford to buy from. It will be safe at least, I'm pretty sure you can burn down an amazon facility without injuring a single human. Spaceman Future! fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Mar 18, 2015 |
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Mar 18, 2015 19:01
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Rhesus Pieces posted:It'll be great when we reach peak logistical efficiency and driverless semis are delivering freight to employee-free fully automated stores and fulfillment centers that nobody can afford to buy from. We're heading there through tragedy of the commons. See the plutonomy memos for details.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:03
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Slaan posted:I could see it working via touchscreen. Make ordering look like a really cool app with a lot of movement and bright colors. The movements and color attract your attention to things on the right side of the screen which summarize your order, but also have a large box with 'hourly deals' or 'the benefits of upsizing.' You're close, but here's the real secret: achievements! Add an apple pie? Achievement Unlocked: Hot Apple Buy! Upgrade your meal? Little badge you can display on your McProfile (do it ten times for a silver badge) I'll take my millions now, thanks.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:03
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Radbot posted:Hell, I've been upsold to a large fry at a loving Carl's Jr. kiosk. EXTRA BIGASS FRIES gently caress You And Diebold posted:More good news from wisconsin(and other places)! I really hope Rauner is somehow not as bad for Illinois as Walker has been for Wisconsin. Eat poo poo, Scott Walker.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:04
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Zero_Grade posted:You're close, but here's the real secret: achievements! Add an apple pie? Achievement Unlocked: Hot Apple Buy! Upgrade your meal? Little badge you can display on your McProfile (do it ten times for a silver badge)
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Mar 18, 2015 19:05
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Radbot posted:Yeah, no. I work in eCommerce and our upselling techniques are preeeety awesome. The best tactic is to sell you on something cheap, get your credit card, and then upsell you at that point. Believe me when I tell you that I wouldn't have a job unless I was very good at upselling people via a computer. I assume this is some in house stuff your company has developed? Because the COTS stuff I've worked with sucks poo poo, and I haven't seen anything presented that looks much better. Not really the place for it (PM maybe?) but I'd be interested in talking shop about your system, compare your online conversions vs face to face conversions. The fact that we can't get the ecomm to catch up with the store and the shrinking mall traffic really hurt us this year.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:06
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Mo_Steel posted:I think wishing death on someone is wrong, so I hope O'Keefe falls down a flight of steps, enters a coma, and when he comes out of it realizes what a tremendous loving rear end in a top hat he is and spends the rest of his life working to help feed poor families worldwide. I don't think wishing death is wrong. I hope O'Keefe dies an extremely graphic, painful, and slow death. I hope it's caught on film and is something entirely of his own doing like getting electrocuted while trying to bug another senator's office.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:09
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I'm sorry, but did Joe really post that the president of Ben Carson's exploratory committee talked about fisting? Did I miss the context there? Was it somehow innocuous?
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Mar 18, 2015 19:09
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JT Jag posted:Delete this post before marketing executives see it, you monster Its ok, they wont implement badges.. they will impliment TF2 style hats that are visible via AR. If you dont get that mcdouble people will know you're not a dapper gently caress because you wont be seen not leaving your house in your McD Electro Top Hat.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:10
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I'm sorry, but did Joe really post that the president of Ben Carson's exploratory committee talked about fisting? Did I miss the context there? Was it somehow innocuous? Imagine a completely serious Herman Cain all the way down to the most unpaid intern. You got all the context necessary. Spaceman Future! posted:Its ok, they wont implement badges.. they will impliment TF2 style hats that are visible via AR. If you dont get that mcdouble people will know you're not a dapper gently caress because you wont be seen not leaving your house in your McD Electro Top Hat. Your child's meal can also come with a 3D Printed McDonald's Fun Toy (complete with embedded location chip) for an additional $0.99.
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I'm sorry, but did Joe really post that the president of Ben Carson's exploratory committee talked about fisting? Did I miss the context there? Was it somehow innocuous? It was from his Twitter archive, back when he was a nobody right-wing shithead instead of a right-wing shithead in charge of a prospective presidential candidate's campaign.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:13
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Evil Fluffy posted:I don't think wishing death is wrong. I hope O'Keefe dies an extremely graphic, painful, and slow death. I hope it's caught on film and is something entirely of his own doing like getting electrocuted while trying to bug another senator's office. I vote for just dropping O'Keefe and Chuck C. Johnson on an island in the middle of nowhere with no implements to kill themselves or each other.
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I'm sorry, but did Joe really post that the president of Ben Carson's exploratory committee talked about fisting? Did I miss the context there? Was it somehow innocuous? Yes he did, and yes someone in the campaign (I'm not sure his exact title) did. He had a semi-anonymous account where he would spit the usual freep vitriol you see so often this day. He was smart enough to know you don't say that stuff under your own readily identifiable name, but dumb enough to think he was so smart no one would ever figure out it was him despite his being blatant about it. Anyways one of his posts was about McConnell fisting Obama. Yep. Primary is gonna be magical.
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Federal Reserve ends pledge to be 'patient' in normalizing monetary policy, opening door to rate hike gently caress. Well, here's hoping the economy is strong enough to keep chugging strongly and they aren't caving early because they are terrified of worker pay increasing.
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Zero_Grade posted:You're close, but here's the real secret: achievements! Add an apple pie? Achievement Unlocked: Hot Apple Buy! Upgrade your meal? Little badge you can display on your McProfile (do it ten times for a silver badge) If I end up starting a massive business, I'm seriously going to include achievements and online profiles. That is a brilliant idea.
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Here's a quick and concise read from Kevin Drum that Democrats for whatever reason are still too timid to run with:quote:Ed Kilgore: (Drum was diagnosed with multiple myeloma in October) Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I'm sorry, but did Joe really post that the president of Ben Carson's exploratory committee talked about fisting? Did I miss the context there? Was it somehow innocuous? A lot of supposed political professionals nowadays seem to have a problem recognizing that the entire world isn't a part of their insular ideological bubble and are shocked when not everybody gives them a sly wink or knowing chuckle when their verbal ooze pours out. E: didn't know that quote was from before he started working for Carson. Rhesus Pieces fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Mar 18, 2015 |
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chitoryu12 posted:If I end up starting a massive business, I'm seriously going to include achievements and online profiles. That is a brilliant idea. You say this like there aren't already massive businesses that include achievements and online profiles. 
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Fried Chicken posted:Federal Reserve ends pledge to be 'patient' in normalizing monetary policy, opening door to rate hike Suddenly, locking in my mortgage at 4.375% doesn't seem like all that bad of a deal.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:33
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Spaceman Future! posted:You say this like there aren't already massive businesses that include achievements and online profiles. Didn't Mt. Dew and Doritos dew something to this effect recently?
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Mar 18, 2015 19:34
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Gravel Gravy posted:Didn't Mt. Dew and Doritos dew something to this effect recently? Achievement Unlocked: Consume 100 bushels of corn worth of corn syrup and tortilla chips. Skin unlocked: diabetic-mangled feet.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:36
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Gravel Gravy posted:Didn't Mt. Dew and Doritos dew something to this effect recently? I think Netflix, Crunchyroll, and maybe Hulu all do this too.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:41
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Gamification has been a thing for a good long while now (decades if you count loyalty cards).
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Evil Fluffy posted:I think Netflix, Crunchyroll, and maybe Hulu all do this too. Hell, my new apartment building that I just moved into has badges that you can earn on the online rent payment portal.
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