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Do you really think 'the ____ were lovely on purpose!' should fly this deep into a show's run?
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Mar 18, 2015 16:01
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Is the blank 'posts'?
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Mar 18, 2015 16:10
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Not everything is about you, mon chere.
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Mar 18, 2015 16:11
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Rocksicles posted:Her finger blades all being horizontal bugged me, ineffective design. Yeah, that made my autism and asperger's kick in something fierce.
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Mar 18, 2015 16:31
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Yeah Cal's Amazing Friends were pretty lame but Cal's still awesome so I'm ok with everything that happens regarding him. When I first saw knife-hands in the promo I thought she was one of those super powered people that assimilate tools or some poo poo. That would have been both cooler and more comic-booky.
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Mar 18, 2015 16:41
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Dan Didio posted:Do you really think 'the ____ were lovely on purpose!' should fly this deep into a show's run? If anything, I believe that argument more now than I would have in season 1. The show has proven it is consistently capable of quality. I honestly have trouble imagining they looked at 'poorly grafted scalpels on her fingers' and thought 'yes, this will make for a fine first class villain'. She was part of a group of villains that drove around in a Winnebago. You don't go to the trouble of tracking down a Winnebago unless you are saying something pretty specific about your characters - You just throw them in a panel van like every other show/movie's bad guys. The villains of the show were cut rate and Shield had a bit of trouble handling them. Then the episode ends with a character who seems way more powerful than anything we have seen mocking those villains. And then, even more shockingly, we find out that guy has a boss who is presumably even more powerful. So yeah, I think they were lovely on purpose.
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Mar 18, 2015 16:44
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Slugworth posted:So yeah, I think they were lovely on purpose. This but ironically.
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Mar 18, 2015 16:50
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Slugworth posted:If anything, I believe that argument more now than I would have in season 1. The show has proven it is consistently capable of quality. I honestly have trouble imagining they looked at 'poorly grafted scalpels on her fingers' and thought 'yes, this will make for a fine first class villain'. See, given this show's history of consistent quality with villains, I have no trouble believing they thought that. A lot of what this show does just seems to be rounding out the numbers. I have no trouble believing that they were making a point with the ramshackle nature of the group and the Winnebago and that, but the idea that this patch of lovely villains really needed to be that boring and lovely to make that point doesn't hold up for me when almost all the other villains in the show up to this point have been of a fairly similar flavour and quality bar, maybe, two or three. Or at least, they probably didn't think 'this will make for a fine, first class villain' so much as they thought 'eh, this'll do'. It's a recurring trend for the people that make this show and I'm not sure couching it in 'well, it's deliberate' is in their best interest. I'd rather see an interesting villain than a boring one in this show at this point, personally, whatever the reason. They're lucky they've got talent like Kyle MacLachlan to centre it, in any case. CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:This but ironically. Woah.
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Mar 18, 2015 16:59
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Deakul posted:Yeah, that made my autism and asperger's kick in something fierce. I reckon they're horizontal so she can karate chop people's throats. also I bet sky's mom's pieces will soon be resembled, at the reunion.
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Mar 18, 2015 17:16
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My wife really dug Skye last night. She usually pays no attention when I watch this show, but she super appreciated Skye's powers damaging her internally as a metaphor for the struggle of women. Women aren't allowed to have an outlet or external display of their feelings, power, or rage, so they focus it internally and end up harming themselves emotionally or in this case physically. It was really well done, something I didn't quite pick up on until she spelled it out.
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Mar 18, 2015 17:35
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I didn't really read that as explicitly a woman thing, but whatever works for her.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:03
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greatn posted:My wife really dug Skye last night. She usually pays no attention when I watch this show, but she super appreciated Skye's powers damaging her internally as a metaphor for the struggle of women. Women aren't allowed to have an outlet or external display of their feelings, power, or rage, so they focus it internally and end up harming themselves emotionally or in this case physically. It was really well done, something I didn't quite pick up on until she spelled it out. lolwut
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Mar 18, 2015 18:09
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greatn posted:My wife really dug Skye last night. She usually pays no attention when I watch this show, but she super appreciated Skye's powers damaging her internally as a metaphor for the struggle of women. Women aren't allowed to have an outlet or external display of their feelings, power, or rage, so they focus it internally and end up harming themselves emotionally or in this case physically. It was really well done, something I didn't quite pick up on until she spelled it out. Go on
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Mar 18, 2015 18:11
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Dan Didio posted:Do you really think 'the ____ were lovely on purpose!' should fly this deep into a show's run? They should have made more jokes about how worthless she was. I know I'd laughed my rear end completely off if Coulson asked her if she's ever heard of this new superpower called a gun. Having her put up a decent fight against a bad rear end agent, though, that made it feel as if it wasn't an intentional joke. Which is a shame because as a joke, she'd fit perfectly with the show's humor.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:11
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We do know that ineffective villains who don't do anything like to eat steak.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:20
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If she's gonna have X-acto fingers at least play to the strengths and make her a crazy good plastic surgeon or something.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:37
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Angar the screamer. Wow, that is a hell of a comic book reference. I guess they're really trolling the bottom of the barrel.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:41
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Well the Daredevil series is coming out on Netflix. Having Angar around would plug in well with that.
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Mar 18, 2015 18:46
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Well the Daredevil series is coming out on Netflix. Having Angar around would plug in well with that. Humbug Scoolbus posted:Well the Daredevil series is coming out on Netflix. Having Angar around would plug in well with that. The Only memory I have of angar in the comics is is a very old daredevil comic. He was hooking up with the black widow at the time and Angar was a hippie. Oh and moondragon came around to help. I wonder if she will show up in GotG On another note. Was lady deathstryke lite joeys sister in the awful friends spinnof?
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Mar 18, 2015 19:01
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She's better known for The Sopranos, but yeah that was her.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:06
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PaybackJack posted:Angar the screamer. Wow, that is a hell of a comic book reference. I guess they're really trolling the bottom of the barrel. He seemed pretty legit threatening, the effect with the birds was really cool. Too bad for him Coulson's knees and fists are faster than he can scream.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:14
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Maxwell Lord posted:Captain America: Winter Soldier was all about how SHIELD was infiltrated by fascists. Apparently they're still around. Not according to forums poster Dan Didio,
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Mar 18, 2015 19:19
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greatn posted:He seemed pretty legit threatening, the effect with the birds was really cool. Too bad for him Coulson's knees and fists are faster than he can scream. He technically couldn't scream without taking out all of his allies too at that point. Maybe he's a caring supervillain.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:21
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greatn posted:He seemed pretty legit threatening, the effect with the birds was really cool. Too bad for him Coulson's knees and fists are faster than he can scream. The only thing threatening about Angar in the comics is the fact that he wears a tassled vest with no undershirt. He's at the bottom of the D-List villains. At least Absorbing Man is a legit B-Lister. edit: Oh yeah, he also has a handlebar porn'stache. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Mar 18, 2015 |
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Mar 18, 2015 19:23
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BSam posted:If you guys are going to keep calling Agent Coop Muad'Dad, then please call Olmos Ghost'Dad. Because that is also from something not very good that most of TVIV seems to have seen. You're gonna have to explain to me what this is a reference to since the only thing I know him from is Battlestar Galactica 
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Mar 18, 2015 19:27
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Xtanstic posted:You're gonna have to explain to me what this is a reference to since the only thing I know him from is Battlestar Galactica Adama'Dad
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Mar 18, 2015 19:28
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PaybackJack posted:The only thing threatening about Angar in the comics is the fact that he wears a tassled vest with no undershirt. He's at the bottom of the D-List villains. The best gag from the Deadpool game had to do with a D-Lister, so D-Listers can be amusing. You run into her over and over again being built up as a boss, and then she gets shot in the head with zero fanfare in the middle of an unrelated conversation.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:31
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Xtanstic posted:You're gonna have to explain to me what this is a reference to since the only thing I know him from is Battlestar Galactica It's a reference to season 6 of Dexter, the worst season of a terrible show.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:36
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Xtanstic posted:You're gonna have to explain to me what this is a reference to since the only thing I know him from is Battlestar Galactica Go watch Blade Runner right now.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:40
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Regy Rusty posted:It's a reference to season 6 of Dexter, the worst season of a terrible show. That explains it. I jumped ship during S3. MrJacobs posted:Go watch Blade Runner right now. I've seen it. Oh okay I just googled it. Point remains he's just Admiral Adama in my mind.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:44
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Actually that reading of Skye seems pretty valid, intentional or no. I know, we don't like symbolism round these here parts...
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Mar 18, 2015 19:50
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PaybackJack posted:The only thing threatening about Angar in the comics is the fact that he wears a tassled vest with no undershirt. He's at the bottom of the D-List villains. Going to get Songbird next season.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:52
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greatn posted:My wife really dug Skye last night. She usually pays no attention when I watch this show, but she super appreciated Skye's powers damaging her internally as a metaphor for the struggle of women. Women aren't allowed to have an outlet or external display of their feelings, power, or rage, so they focus it internally and end up harming themselves emotionally or in this case physically. It was really well done, something I didn't quite pick up on until she spelled it out. your wife sounds like she'd be fun at parties Xtanstic posted:You're gonna have to explain to me what this is a reference to since the only thing I know him from is Battlestar Galactica I don't know why we're using spoiler tags, but alright: in season 6 of Dexter he played Colin Hanks's mentor/father figure, who kept urging him to commit ever more gruesome murders. The ~WHAT A TWIST~ of the season was that he wasn't actually there he was a ghost the whole time!!!! Except in typical Dexter fashion, they mishandled it so badly that anyone with a pulse and one working synapse had figured that out at least five episodes before the reveal, and the whole thing was just aggravating.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:55
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Soothing Vapors posted:your wife sounds like she'd be fun at parties She's a tenured and published professor of American literary theory, and she IS fun at parties!
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Mar 18, 2015 20:07
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NowonSA posted:Haha, super-secret Shield #2 is a pretty great reveal. It'd be pretty funny if they have way more resources than Coulson. Extra bonus points if Fury is running it, which would be such a Fury move I can't believe I never even thought of it. Hand the reigns to Coulson to be the public face of the new Shield, then go extra super double black ops on the Shield that you're running, so no one can go over your head and launch nukes at cities and what have you. Air is lava! posted:Fury actually went to five different people and told them they would be the new leader of Shield. He gave each of them a toolbox, which wont work until you combine all of them. This way he could assure that the fractions which would form the new Shield work together. At first I thought "We're ALSO SHIELD!!" was a lame reveal, but you guys are right, this is some awesome, 110% typical Nick Fury bullshit. If he did this, I love it. Maxwell Lord posted:Actually that reading of Skye seems pretty valid, intentional or no. Yeah - I never would have gone there with Skye, but I mean, I guess you could paint her as an an oppressed woman trying to make self-actualize if you wanted to (and did some cherrypicking). She's been victimized by the system all her life, her entire relationship with Ward, her new relationship with May as her idol, constantly searching for a father-figure (i.e. a supportive male figure) because her own father isn't present because her mother was also victimized by men. Hell even just the fact that May and Sky are both Chinese. (at least partly) I don't think it's the right angle to take but I can see why someone would go there. (especially after watching Agent Carter and getting in that mindset, and especially if like you said, she doesn't always pay 100% attention and may have missed some things that go against the grain of that reading) XboxPants fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Mar 18, 2015 |
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Mar 18, 2015 20:28
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bobkatt013 posted:Going to get Songbird next season. I would have loved it if this was the route they actually went with the Angar character on this episode. Get rid of him and make her sympathetic. Songbird is a great character and it's been a shame watching her go from a standout in the Thunderbolts, who seemed on track to the main Avengers roster, to being on the sidelines again.
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Mar 18, 2015 20:50
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Fitz was, once again, shield's bro of the week. Looking forward to Skye/Daisy/The Notorious M.S.P. getting to choose between keeping the casts that deaden the powers, Simmons' injection to remove her powers, or Fitz's Totally Awesome Control and Amplifying Wristbands. That or at some point she pops the casts off, sings Let it Go, and disintegrates a building. Also fine. I'm also enjoying Coulson working up to dropping the hammer on Bobbie and Mack. I can't see how that conversation he had with Bobbie happening like that if he didn't at least suspect that something's up. I'm guessing: A) Coulson offered Hunter the job, Hunter accepted it, then disappeared, he knew something was up. B) Coulson and/or Hunter suspected something was up with the two of them, hatched this plan. C) Mack and Hunter's scuffle was caught on camera, Coulson went fishing to see if anyone else was in on it, given recent events. Either way, should be an interesting reveal. The Mua'Dad delivered on his promise of randomly loving poo poo up. It was fun. I enjoyed the little crew he got together. They were clearly the B team. It's interesting to contrast how these people ended up to how things went with the fire guy from the first season. He had been (mostly) left alone by SHIELD until Raina happened to him, where the B team were all pretty well established as not just supers, but assholes.
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Mar 18, 2015 20:55
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greatn posted:She's a tenured and published professor of American literary theory, and she IS fun at parties! Oh... oh, no. No. No, no, no. Constantly analyzing everything is exactly like dissecting a puppy. Sure, you find out what makes it tick, but it don't tick too good afterwards.
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Puppies shouldn't be making ticking sounds in the first place.
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