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HEY VAPER: May 15, 2014; by XyloJW

temple posted:

I didn't really like MBDTF but I can appreciate the craftsmanship. For whatever reason, people love that album and I don't have to insult them to disagree.

White people listening to hiphop doesn't faze me anymore. Having second hand embarrassment over it comes off as being an even bigger douche. This thread is probably the only time I engage white people's opinions about rap and I've learned (over a long period) to take it as a curiosity and in a non-judgmental fashion. My gripe is the assumption that black people don't like the same stuff white people do and vise versa. I know many black people that like Childish Gambino, Chance, Kendrick, etc. TPAB isn't critic bait or the respectability politics version of rap, it is a good album. If a bunch of clueless white people like it too, so what? It is more a testament to the music than shameful pink toes invading rap by making Kendrick a millionaire. I'm more critical of the art than the listeners. Some people's taste, knowledge, or time is limited to trends and marketed media. The average white person is probably equally as exploited as the average rapper by corporate forces to consume (and for artists, to create) lovely music so the company can meet sales projections. It really bothers me when people who I assume are white try to protect the music from other white people because who are they to judge what's authentic or good or appropriate rap? That's a privileged action masquerading as cultural appreciation. If a rapper wants to rap about destroying his community and a bunch of white people pave a money trail to their cities, I can't judge either side of that equation. I don't assume a rapper popular with white people is automatically flawed somehow either. Like Alan said, TPAB is one of those records you can talk about, as opposed to trap album #4080. Maybe trap albums need better critics. /rant

I can't disagree with this post more, it's really shallow and condescending to write off someone as not having valid opinions or good taste in hiphop because they're A Different Race Than You. I'm as white as it gets and I think

quote:

Childish Gambino, Chance, Kendrick, etc

is poo poo as well. To crib a Kool Keith line, would rather listen to Mac Mall C-Bo E40 and other rappers you don't know. (hey, that was relevant at one point!) Someone gave me my first rap tape when I was 5 years old and I've been collecting them ever since. I was into The Jacka 3 years before he had a tape out after he featured on Northern Expozure so don't even talk to me about white people not understanding trap :v:

But enough flexing, I just want to tell you how wrong you are and not all white people have stereotypical white tastes in hiphop. You're right about most of us, but not all of us. To be fair I cringe almost every single time another fellow kinsman talks about rap music, but I don't automatically write their opinions off because they're white. I write their opinions off after I hear how good the new Kendrick album was :smug:

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# ? Jun 12, 2024 00:05

Crumbletron: Jul 21, 2006; IT'S YOUR BOY JESUS, MANE

thathonkey posted:

If youre lucky he'll perform the tupac interview

lol i hope they get the hologram dudes to have him sit on stage

# ? Mar 19, 2015 05:02

^burtle: Jul 17, 2001; God of Boomin'

thathonkey posted:

If youre lucky he'll perform the tupac interview

they love a spirit interview like pac at the coachella

# ? Mar 19, 2015 05:35

temple: Jul 29, 2006; I have actual skeletons in my closet

HEY VAPER posted:

I can't disagree with this post more, it's really shallow and condescending to write off someone as not having valid opinions or good taste in hiphop because they're A Different Race Than You. I'm as white as it gets and I think
is poo poo as well. To crib a Kool Keith line, would rather listen to Mac Mall C-Bo E40 and other rappers you don't know. (hey, that was relevant at one point!) Someone gave me my first rap tape when I was 5 years old and I've been collecting them ever since. I was into The Jacka 3 years before he had a tape out after he featured on Northern Expozure so don't even talk to me about white people not understanding trap

But enough flexing, I just want to tell you how wrong you are and not all white people have stereotypical white tastes in hiphop. You're right about most of us, but not all of us. To be fair I cringe almost every single time another fellow kinsman talks about rap music, but I don't automatically write their opinions off because they're white. I write their opinions off after I hear how good the new Kendrick album was

I think you missed every point I made.

# ? Mar 19, 2015 06:15

Rageaholic: May 31, 2005; Old Town Road to EGOT

9.3 on Pitchfork :jerkbag:

# ? Mar 19, 2015 06:15

HorseRenoir: Dec 25, 2011; Pillbug

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

9.3 on Pitchfork

The funny thing is that people are angry that it got a lower score than Yeezus

_{_{(as it should)}}

# ? Mar 19, 2015 07:01

Rageaholic: May 31, 2005; Old Town Road to EGOT

HorseRenoir posted:

The funny thing is that people are angry that it got a lower score than Yeezus

_{_{(as it should)}}

Hell, I'd be more inclined to call Yeezus "rap record of the decade" than this thing.

# ? Mar 19, 2015 07:06

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

9.3 on Pitchfork

who didn't see this coming though? Time to get high and actually try listening to this sonic chunk of weird.

# ? Mar 19, 2015 07:10

Tolkien minority: Feb 14, 2012

yeezus is infinitely more listenable than tpab

# ? Mar 19, 2015 07:12

alansmithee: Jan 25, 2007; Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

9.3 on Pitchfork

bro you seem really angry over what other people are rating this album. is it because it's 80 minutes and you don't have a commute that long or something? just drive a little bit further and i'm sure it will come together.

also fwiw i'm fairly sure it getting "only" 9.3 means they're saving at least a 9.5 for Kanye's album, probably a 10.

and since people are mentioning yeesus i've been listening to it alot again and drat that's a good album. like i get down with that poo poo, there's like zero skips on there.

# ? Mar 19, 2015 07:13

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

i honestly didn't know pitchfork had nonwhite editors

# ? Mar 19, 2015 07:15

Rageaholic: May 31, 2005; Old Town Road to EGOT

alansmithee posted:

bro you seem really angry over what other people are rating this album. is it because it's 80 minutes and you don't have a commute that long or something? just drive a little bit further and i'm sure it will come together.

It's because it's 80 minutes and the majority of that runtime isn't very interesting. Plus it has some stupid rear end rhymes (along with some good ones) and laughably bad tracks like that "dick ain't free" track and the one with the Tupac interview.

# ? Mar 19, 2015 07:22

IM DAY DAY IRL: Jul 11, 2003; Everything's fine.

Nothing to see here.

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

It's because it's 80 minutes and the majority of that runtime isn't very interesting. Plus it has some stupid rear end rhymes (along with some good ones) and laughably bad tracks like that "dick ain't free" track and the one with the Tupac interview.

god drat I know you have a bad rep for being hilariously out of touch with how normal people process and evaluate things but honestly expecting that music critics should fall in line with your (typically terrible) opinions takes your cluelessness to another level

# ? Mar 19, 2015 07:26

alansmithee: Jan 25, 2007; Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

It's because it's 80 minutes and the majority of that runtime isn't very interesting. Plus it has some stupid rear end rhymes (along with some good ones) and laughably bad tracks like that "dick ain't free" track and the one with the Tupac interview.

you say it's not interesting, a lot of people disagree. also you're the only person who's said there's "stupid rear end rhymes". and for free is actually really good. and all that still doesn't explain why you seem to want to post reviews seconds after they've went up online and are so angered about those reviews that everyone knew would be good.

"wow these opinions that i slavishly wait for with baited breath are different than mine, i'm loving so loving pissed off arrrgh"

# ? Mar 19, 2015 07:30

Rageaholic: May 31, 2005; Old Town Road to EGOT

IM DAY DAY IRL posted:

god drat I know you have a bad rep for being hilariously out of touch with how normal people process and evaluate things but honestly expecting that music critics should fall in line with your (typically terrible) opinions takes your cluelessness to another level

lol if you think I expected that at all

Nah man, I was expecting them to score it pretty much exactly how they did. I just think it's funny that they're rating it that high.

alansmithee posted:

you say it's not interesting, a lot of people disagree. also you're the only person who's said there's "stupid rear end rhymes". and for free is actually really good. and all that still doesn't explain why you seem to want to post reviews seconds after they've went up online and are so angered about those reviews that everyone knew would be good.

"wow these opinions that i slavishly wait for with baited breath are different than mine, i'm loving so loving pissed off arrrgh"

lmao so I guess you don't use Twitter, huh? Because it's really not that hard to find stuff shortly after it goes up through there. And I'm not angry, I just think they're jumping the gun big time and it amuses me.

# ? Mar 19, 2015 07:41

Algund Eenboom: May 4, 2014

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

It's because it's 80 minutes and the majority of that runtime isn't very interesting. Plus it has some stupid rear end rhymes (along with some good ones) and laughably bad tracks like that "dick ain't free" track and the one with the Tupac interview.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3545531&userid=79430

# ? Mar 19, 2015 07:51

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

wow I'm listening to this and it's already really amazing :okpos:

guess Pitchfork was...? can't say it

wow album of the year 4real :350:

YO! NMD RAPS THREAD AIN'T FREE

wow King Kunta is funky :anime:

Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Mar 19, 2015

# ? Mar 19, 2015 07:52

HEY VAPER: May 15, 2014; by XyloJW

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

9.3 on Pitchfork

# ? Mar 19, 2015 08:03

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

I can't believe some people actually disliked this album :palmon:

Joe Gillian posted:

My thoughts on TPAB:

the jazz interludes are-_awesome.

Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Mar 19, 2015

# ? Mar 19, 2015 08:07

void_serfer: Jan 13, 2012

My thoughts on TPAB:

Loving you is complicaaaa-_ated.

# ? Mar 19, 2015 08:10

Khagan: Aug 8, 2012; Words cannot describe just how terrible Vietnamese are.

Only a matter of time before TPAB gets called Kendrick's Kid A :smithicide:

# ? Mar 19, 2015 09:13

SOME PIG: Aug 12, 2004; Hittin' Switches,
Twistin' wigs with
Phat Radical Mathematical type Scriptures

Where have I heard the guitar sample on "Complexion" before? I know it's from one of my favorite songs of all time, but I can't place it and it's driving me crazy.

Edit: I figured it out just after I posted. It's from a live version of Lady by D'Angelo. NEO-SOUL /Fantano

Khagan posted:

Only a matter of time before TPAB gets called Kendrick's Kid A

You just did it, Sgt. Barnes

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# ? Mar 19, 2015 10:05

Viginti: Feb 1, 2015

If this is his Kid A then what was Good Kid? Surely as the follow up this should be Kid B.

EDIT: NYT describes the album, multiple times, as "Kendrick Lamar's Capacious new record". That's one way of putting it.

# ? Mar 19, 2015 10:26

Quantum of Phallus: Dec 27, 2010

Crapacious more like :cool:

# ? Mar 19, 2015 10:52

Besson: Apr 20, 2006; To the sun's savage brightness he exposed the dark and secret surface of his retinas, so that by burning the memory of vengeance might be preserved, and never perish.

Non-Kendrick question because I will haven't checked it out yet: what was the last mixtape that was super great from first to last track?

I can only think of Rich Gang - Tha Tour as only recent tape that was cohesive whole. Otherwise all the other tapes I've checked out have two or three great tracks and the rest of the tape is merely "pretty cool".

# ? Mar 19, 2015 11:02

Khagan: Aug 8, 2012; Words cannot describe just how terrible Vietnamese are.

Viginti posted:

If this is his Kid A then what was Good Kid? Surely as the follow up this should be Kid B.

I meant Kid A in the sense that it polarized the fan base when it first came out due to the shift in style but show up in top 10 lists years later much like the Radiohead album.

I'd guess GKMC is a Pablo Honey or O.K. Computer.

# ? Mar 19, 2015 12:39

thathonkey: Jul 17, 2012

Besson posted:

Non-Kendrick question because I will haven't checked it out yet: what was the last mixtape that was super great from first to last track?

I can only think of Rich Gang - Tha Tour as only recent tape that was cohesive whole. Otherwise all the other tapes I've checked out have two or three great tracks and the rest of the tape is merely "pretty cool".

There hasnt been a tape like that in a while. BFK is the last one i remember that was super great start to finish.

That being said, 2015 has had some strong tapes so far i think. Sorry 4 The Wait is pretty good especially relative to weezy's recent output. The Maxo Kream tape has a really strong first half. If you like Juicy J he had a tape a few weeks ago too blue dream and lean 2

# ? Mar 19, 2015 12:52

Viginti: Feb 1, 2015

Khagan posted:

I meant Kid A in the sense that it polarized the fan base when it first came out due to the shift in style but show up in top 10 lists years later much like the Radiohead album.

I'd guess GKMC is a Pablo Honey or O.K. Computer.

I think you took my lame pun far too literally, but that's fine. I wonder if Thom will bring Kendrick in for the next supergroup he creates that no-one will care about. There's already a connection through FlyLo.

Viginti fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Mar 19, 2015

# ? Mar 19, 2015 13:13

thathonkey: Jul 17, 2012

GKMC is a pablo honey? :allears:

# ? Mar 19, 2015 13:48

Skeezy: Jul 3, 2007

Someone just explained the Lucy poo poo Kendrick does on the album to me.

I'm not really paying attention to the album at work but smh.

# ? Mar 19, 2015 14:32

Yuzenn: Mar 31, 2011; Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

The Spirit told me to use discernment and a Smith n Wesson at my discretion

Practice heavy self reflection, avoid self deception
If you lost, get re-direction

Besson posted:

Non-Kendrick question because I will haven't checked it out yet: what was the last mixtape that was super great from first to last track?

I can only think of Rich Gang - Tha Tour as only recent tape that was cohesive whole. Otherwise all the other tapes I've checked out have two or three great tracks and the rest of the tape is merely "pretty cool".

Cyhi Da Prynce Hystori has 0 skips, and each of the Fabolous Soul Tapes are pretty close to perfect. Wrath of Caine - Pusha T is also wall to wall bangers.

Its hard to gauge mixtapes that way though because if they are mixtapes from only one artist then it's spiritually just a free EP. The traditional mixtape I'm used to has a ton of different artists and the DJ or whoever puts it out usually has some corny artist or track they just had to add to the tape usually to its detriment.

# ? Mar 19, 2015 14:39

Henchman of Santa: Aug 21, 2010

Khagan posted:

Only a matter of time before TPAB gets called Kendrick's Kid A

It already has been.

# ? Mar 19, 2015 14:54

Robert Analog: Feb 16, 2008; shyah

Pitchfork reviews have more namedrops than a Game album that's some lazy rear end journalism.

# ? Mar 19, 2015 15:04

A Handed Missus: Aug 6, 2012

New Durag Dyansty, this time over Moleskin Conclusion that Just Blaze released a few weeks ago.

http://2dopeboyz.com/2015/03/19/durag-dynasty-neighborhood-dope-dealers/

# ? Mar 19, 2015 15:09

thathonkey: Jul 17, 2012

If kid a had like 20 minutes of thom yorke delivering spoken word poetry and remixing a jhn lennon interview id be inclined to agree

# ? Mar 19, 2015 15:55

alansmithee: Jan 25, 2007; Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Yuzenn posted:

Cyhi Da Prynce Hystori has 0 skips, and each of the Fabolous Soul Tapes are pretty close to perfect. Wrath of Caine - Pusha T is also wall to wall bangers.

Its hard to gauge mixtapes that way though because if they are mixtapes from only one artist then it's spiritually just a free EP. The traditional mixtape I'm used to has a ton of different artists and the DJ or whoever puts it out usually has some corny artist or track they just had to add to the tape usually to its detriment.

Tbh I don't even distinguish them anymore since in most cases "mixtape" just means free album (as you said). I mean now most even have mostly original production so it's not like early on when dudes would use mixtapes to jump on other beats.

Robert Analog posted:

Pitchfork reviews have more namedrops than a Game album that's some lazy rear end journalism.

Game's scrapped pitchfork review of TPaB

# ? Mar 19, 2015 16:04

Robert Analog: Feb 16, 2008; shyah

alansmithee posted:

Game's scrapped pitchfork review of TPaB

# ? Mar 19, 2015 16:09

bows1: May 16, 2004; Chill, whale, chill

Besson posted:

Non-Kendrick question because I will haven't checked it out yet: what was the last mixtape that was super great from first to last track?

I can only think of Rich Gang - Tha Tour as only recent tape that was cohesive whole. Otherwise all the other tapes I've checked out have two or three great tracks and the rest of the tape is merely "pretty cool".

Swoup Serengeti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxlpA_I1ERM

# ? Mar 19, 2015 16:32

Robert Analog: Feb 16, 2008; shyah

100's IVRY didn't have a bad song on it and is some chill summer music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1OZjpGolY0

# ? Mar 19, 2015 16:44

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# ? Jun 12, 2024 00:05

bows1: May 16, 2004; Chill, whale, chill

Yeah, wish he didn't quit making music.

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