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That's the thing, some are acting as if Jeremy was walking around the office terrorizing people during the day. Sounds more like this was an after hours drinking party that
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"Aaahh, put 'er there!" "It was racing!" "You little scamp" "I'll get you next time"
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Mar 19, 2015 05:14
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It's also likely that Clarkson and the producer already made amends. The BBC will carry on their investigation regardless.
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Mar 19, 2015 05:19
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I never thought I'd see the day when there would be scuffles in automotive television. I think I'll stick to NASCAR and reality T.V. from now on.
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holocaust bloopers posted:It's also likely that Clarkson and the producer already made amends. The BBC will carry on their investigation regardless. Even so, Tymon has been the target of death threats, doxxing and general hatred ever since this whole story broke. That doesn't just go away.
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Mar 19, 2015 07:25
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The problem here is that there is no definitive version of events that lets us know exactly how serious this is. From what I have heard, the reason Clarkson himself reported it is because half the staff felt really uncomfortable with events and were about to report it themselves. I really hope that isn't the case and that they can make amends and move on but until we know what actually happened then its pretty difficult to guess what could or should happen with the show. If everyone involved has lawyered up and whatnot, it seems unlikely that they have shook hands and made amends already. One can hope though.
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Mar 19, 2015 10:47
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This talk about the Guardian reminds me of a rather good show that touched on this very subject..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M Still true after all these years
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Mar 19, 2015 11:08
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Seriously, it can't be that hard to find a replacement for him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMuO-8S_0Wg
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Mar 19, 2015 14:43
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Nice to see May and Hammond taking a stand. Now this is no longer about whether BBC wants to keep Clarkson, but whether they want to keep their most popular show at all.
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Mar 19, 2015 18:35
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KozmoNaut posted:Even so, Tymon has been the target of death threats, doxxing and general hatred ever since this whole story broke. That doesn't just go away.
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InitialDave posted:I still utterly fail to comprehend what kind of thought process, if any at all, makes people think that this kind of nonsense is a good idea. If nothing else, how on earth can you think it will help the person/group you have chosen to side with? It's not about helping, it's a pathetic attemt at revenge.
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Mar 19, 2015 18:57
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InitialDave posted:I still utterly fail to comprehend what kind of thought process, if any at all, makes people think that this kind of nonsense is a good idea. If nothing else, how on earth can you think it will help the person/group you have chosen to side with? People are really dumb, reactionary, and don't think about consequences.
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Mar 19, 2015 18:58
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Cat Terrist posted:This talk about the Guardian reminds me of a rather good show that touched on this very subject..... Such a gem this. Hacker is usually a goof, but in this case he insists on his priority and shows where his wisdom is at, knowing the press. Which of course the unelected, arrogant and actually quite powerful civil servant thinks he does, but really does not. What an amazing piece of comedy.
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http://www.theguardian.com/media/mediamonkeyblog/2015/mar/17/benedict-cumberbatchs-pulled-punches-with-jeremy-clarkson We've discovered where Clarkson got his training: quote:While the world awaits to find out what really happened in that late-night “fracas” between Jeremy Clarkson and Top Gear producer Oisin Tymon, Monkey is reminded of Benedict Cumberbatch’s appearance on the BBC2 show when he taught Clarkson … how to punch. Is the Guardian writing about anything else anymore?
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Mar 19, 2015 19:37
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Sir, sir, there was a bombing in-- If the next words out of your mouth aren't "The Top Gear Studios" or "Jeremy Clarkson's House", then I don't want to hear it!
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Mar 19, 2015 19:41
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If you think it's bad now, wait until next week when he a) returns to the BBC with nary a word said or b) walks into the arms of a rival broadcaster who'll let him say whatever he wants because ad revenues trump everything. The Guardian is going to go full Tumblr and its going to be amazing.
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Mar 19, 2015 19:44
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Yeah, if I grab dinner with my boss and he has a few too many drinks it's totally ok for him to punch me in the face.... :eyeroll: If the reverse happened the producer would absolutely have been fired as a result, so I don't understand why people are acting as though this should just be no big deal and the media is making a big deal out of it. Well, it seems clear that the media is making a big deal about it, but I don't feel it's unjustified. I don't see the rationale where it's OK for JC to just punch someone because 'aw shucks he had a few too many beers'. I mean like, OK so he has no responsibility for his actions after that? I love the show, and I'll be sad to see it go, but I sorta feel like this is over the line and maybe it's time for a new cast, ala Doctor Who. Get a new triumvirate in, and strike out in a new direction. You can be irreverent without punching people.
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Mar 19, 2015 22:18
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tijag posted:Yeah, if I grab dinner with my boss and he has a few too many drinks it's totally ok for him to punch me in the face.... It's still seeming about as clear as mud what actually happened, though, and if he did smack him, why is this an internal BBC matter rather than involving the Police? For me, it's not so much "it's ok to hit people" as it is "I'm very suspicious of what kind of game is being played here". If the reality is a tired, hungry Clarkson getting to the point of just threatening to hit the guy, then I'm in the "meh" camp. I've pissed off people at work to that stage more than a couple of times, and the one time it's got physical, well, I deserved it. tijag posted:maybe it's time for a new cast, ala Doctor Who. Jealous Cow posted:JC = Jesus Christ?
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Mar 19, 2015 22:43
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The other guy should have just knocked him out. Why can't you have a good old honest fight anymore? Smh.
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Bape Culture posted:The other guy should have just knocked him out. Why can't you have a good old honest fight anymore? Smh. You're damned right. Sometimes talking only goes so far.
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tijag posted:Yeah, if I grab dinner with my boss and he has a few too many drinks it's totally ok for him to punch me in the face.... Who said it was okay? I think the point being made is that there is a huge gap between a violent boss at some company meeting throwing the table over because he didn't get his mocha latte and a bunch of blokes after work piss drunk. In the latter it's usually acceptable that the other guy hits him back or everybody steps in to break it up and they walk it off and apologize the next day. Is it right it happened? No. Is it worth someone getting fired for? Well I would say there's plenty of blue collar and military types that would disagree. But I think what it really boils down to is that none of us were there and don't know what the hell happened except a one second account of an event. Did oisin call JC's mother a whore? Or was he simply walking by as JC was on a drunken rampage murdering any passerby he saw? We have no idea.
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Cakefool posted:Top Gear returns! Mid season death match special! Next episode, the new presenters are chosen via a series of challenges! Basically Battle Royale, but without the subtitles.
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Mar 19, 2015 23:07
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tijag posted:Yeah, if I grab dinner with my boss and he has a few too many drinks it's totally ok for him to punch me in the face.... I don't like to condemn someone on the very limited facts available so far, so I can wait for the internal inquiry to finish and an official statement is released (assuming it ever is). The other problem is that even though it sounds like Jeremy did something (whatever it was) that deserves disciplinary action, it isn't that easy to just fire him. While most people can be replaced, Top Gear is just an airplane hanger with some cars in it without the hosts. If they fire Jeremy outright, they'd might as well fire everyone else that works on the show, including the allegedly punched producer.
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Mar 19, 2015 23:12
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If some harsh words and a badly-thrown punch at a post-work piss-up was grounds for termination half of Britain would be unemployed.
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Mar 19, 2015 23:16
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I thought it was knife crime island.
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tijag posted:I thought it was knife crime island.
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Mar 19, 2015 23:29
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British cop shows are hilarious because they always end up finding like, a steak knife, and carefully hold it up by very end of the handle with 2 fingers like it's covered in blood, and talk about it like it's a 2 foot long machete.
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Mar 19, 2015 23:33
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Mooseykins posted:Basically Battle Royale, but without the subtitles. Probably gonna still need subtitles for us American English speakers.
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Mar 19, 2015 23:35
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Powershift posted:British cop shows are hilarious because they always end up finding like, a steak knife, and carefully hold it up by very end of the handle with 2 fingers like it's covered in blood, and talk about it like it's a 2 foot long machete. Apparently Hot Fuzz is pretty much a documentary.
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:If some harsh words and a badly-thrown punch at a post-work piss-up was grounds for termination half of Britain would be unemployed. I thought half of britain was unemployed
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Koirhor posted:I thought half of britain was unemployed
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I remember reading auspol and someone said that we really need a paper like the guardian. Ha.
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As much as I enjoy Top gear, I can't see it coming back to what it was pre-pissing match. Wonder where they'd go next if BBC shut them down completely?
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All the presenters have plenty of other gigs to keep themselves occupied with. If the show folds I do hope May makes another drinking show with Oz Clarke.
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:I remember reading auspol and someone said that we really need a paper like the guardian. Ummmm.... yes we most certainly do. The papers we have are owned by Murdoch and believe me, The Guardian at it's worst is still kms ahead of the utter swill aka News Corp.
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I just watched the first episode of the French Top Gear. It wasn't that bad, I'll give it a chance.
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Cat Terrist posted:Ummmm.... yes we most certainly do. The papers we have are owned by Murdoch and believe me, The Guardian at it's worst is still kms ahead of the utter swill aka News Corp. You don't replace poo poo with poop.
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