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If I had stayed in I would have made chief at 30*. The real trick though is that civilian life is best life. Join us in the vet thread. *pure speculation, but when civ life takes hold anything was possible
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Pft I would have made chief by 28. I was fully bound for the ACINT pipeline.
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Mar 19, 2015 04:19
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lol @ these scrubs i made chief at meps 
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Mar 19, 2015 05:45
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What's a chief?
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Mar 19, 2015 12:34
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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:Don't transfer EPs not count anymore or something? I have no idea which of my evals count and which don't. Only one other of them says CTN2 on it, which was a P. Then I have one that says CTN3 and SELECTED which I think was an MP. Then I have one for a period that's about 2 months long before the SELECTED eval that's also a P. So I have no idea what my PMA is actually going to be.
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Mar 19, 2015 13:28
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I get a frocked P this week, likely get a xfer EP in December, and next march I will be in C school en route to USS NEXTSHIP. pretty sure im screwed.
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Mar 19, 2015 14:21
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Null Integer posted:What's a chief? A miserable little pile of secrets!
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Mar 19, 2015 15:20
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The only way a transfer eval hurts is if you get something other than an EP. That eval is for continuity purposes only.
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Mar 19, 2015 15:21
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Susa posted:I take my first advancement exam in 2 years and its mathematically impossible to pick up off of an mp, moral of the story never be a corpsman. I've seen people pick up off of an MP, the defining thing would be their questions missed. If you'd like a test guide I have a bunch of stuff saved up that has everything you need for the sections without having to go through pages of useless information, simplifying every DD form, instruction and SF you'd see on the test. The only thing in the study guides that is likely going to be useless is anything having to do with Mental Health that isn't sexual assault related. Focus on Dental, Lab, X-ray, Pharmacy, and general supply/triage stuff for units with MLG or MarDiv and you should be fine. I've seen some corpsmen get all the questions right and not pick up from a P eval, but plenty of dudes here have picked up with MPs. Only time you don't get an MP is if you fail a PRT or you hosed up, and even then you have a chance to pick up if you get enough questions right and don't have a piss poor average.
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Sir Lucius posted:I have no idea which of my evals count and which don't. Only one other of them says CTN2 on it, which was a P. Then I have one that says CTN3 and SELECTED which I think was an MP. Then I have one for a period that's about 2 months long before the SELECTED eval that's also a P. So I have no idea what my PMA is actually going to be. Have you talked to your LPO? It's kind of their job to mentor people that work for them. Of course this is the CTN community where your first has probably been in the Navy for like 4 years and has no loving clue. I don't have the instruction in front of me but it goes by time period. If you only have two evals as an E5, an EP and a P your PMA should be a 3.80 (4.0 from the EP, 3.6 from the P). Speaking of evals, I just got done debriefing the E5 evals, and it was incredibly frustrating. Whenever new people check in with us we tell them multiple times (mostly during their initial CDB) what they need to do to not get a promotable eval. We're an A school so what the CO wants to see should be obvious, get your Master Training Specialist, do off-duty education, and community involvement, in that order with MTS being a way bigger deal than anything else. Then none of these assholes get their MTS and wonder why they're all getting P's and ruining their careers. The majority of them flipped their eval around, said "Yep that's what I thought!" and when I ask them what they mean by that they say "Well I didn't get my MTS so I knew it would be a P." MOTHERFUCKER IF YOU KNEW WHAT YOU NEEDED TO DO WHY DIDN'T YOU DO IT? It's not a hard qual to get, it's way easier than getting a warfare pin. I mean even the guy who knew he was getting out when he first checked in (me) got it because why not? People leave you alone once you have it, just like your warfare pin. The E6's do it too but I don't get to debrief them and tell them they're stupid, that's what my Chief is for. Being an LPO is frustrating as gently caress when you're trying to help people and they won't help themselves. I'm very glad I won't have to do it on a ship.
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Mar 19, 2015 19:22
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Nah, my lpo is actually cool and does everything you'd expect from a good lpo. I'd say the only issue with lpo's in the ctn community is that they don't stick around for too long because they get sucked up and quickly become chiefs. I thought it might be 3.8, but then I was wondering if the MP eval counted also. And if it did then wouldn't it just still be 3.8? It just seemed like weird math.
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Mar 19, 2015 19:51
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Sir Lucius posted:Nah, my lpo is actually cool and does everything you'd expect from a good lpo. I'd say the only issue with lpo's in the ctn community is that they don't stick around for too long because they get sucked up and quickly become chiefs. If the MP counted it would still be a 3.8 yea.
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So I hate myself and read reddit sometimes. There's a thread on there about some dude going to mast for coming back "late" from being recalled early from his leave because he didn't have money for an emergency flight. I thought they couldn't recall you from no-poo poo leave since it was a right or something.
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Mar 19, 2015 20:16
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so, i'm in the reserves, and i've been waiting for like 4 months doing weekly phone musters to check the status of my orders to be technically gained into the reserves and my intel unit here in SD, and I just got an email from the PS3 at admin with a bunch of attached PDFs i have to sign and email back to him saying that if i don't do these quick I can be adsepped. first off, i'm confused cause I knew all this time i've been sitting waiting for my orders to be processed, being told that i haven't been gained and to call next week over and over, this sort of blind sided me second off, maybe i should just get adsepped??
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Mar 19, 2015 23:35
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Nwabudike Morgan posted:i should just get adsepped Yes.
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Mar 19, 2015 23:39
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got debreifed on my frocked e5 eval today, I fully expected the P as I heard all 6 of us were getting P's shot across the bow. What I didnt loving expect was the 3.0 performance mark average! . 98th percentile on the exam, rates me a 3.0 for job knowledge... 2.5 year in E5      Nwabudike Morgan posted:this sort of blind sided me keelhaul all khakis... Arione fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Mar 19, 2015 |
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Mar 19, 2015 23:42
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i mean like, i guess i could just get adsepped and boogey on out of the navy with my top secret clearance, but that would feel like a pretty BM move. does adsep carry the same negative connotations that OTH or DH does when applying for government/civilian positions? edit: also one of the pdf's he sent me was an already filled out life insurance policy of an airman lol Nwabudike Morgan fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Mar 19, 2015 |
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Mar 19, 2015 23:46
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Arione posted:got debreifed on my frocked e5 eval today, I fully expected the P as I heard all 6 of us were getting P's shot across the bow. What I didnt loving expect was the 3.0 performance mark average! . 98th percentile on the exam, rates me a 3.0 for job knowledge... 2.5 year in E5 I wouldn't worry about a baseline 3.0 frocked P.
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Mar 20, 2015 00:35
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Arione posted:got debreifed on my frocked e5 eval today, I fully expected the P as I heard all 6 of us were getting P's shot across the bow. What I didnt loving expect was the 3.0 performance mark average! . 98th percentile on the exam, rates me a 3.0 for job knowledge... 2.5 year in E5 Do those blocks even matter for anything? I mean I guess they're used as evidence for why you get the rank you get, but they seem kind of arbitrary.
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Mar 20, 2015 00:39
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Nwabudike Morgan posted:i mean like, i guess i could just get adsepped and boogey on out of the navy with my top secret clearance, but that would feel like a pretty BM move. ADSEPs can carry a variety of dismissal types as its just a separation process IIRC. Why don't you contact your LPO or whoever and make sure this ps3 isn't a retard? I don't know anything about the reserves but have you not spoken to anyone in your chain about this? They'd have much more relevant information for you Edit: Jesus you guys seem to get pretty bent out of shape over evals. Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Mar 20, 2015 |
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Mar 20, 2015 00:44
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I will get to this post tomorrow depending on how Purdue does tonight now 
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PneumonicBook posted:If the MP counted it would still be a 3.8 yea. I don't think it does, I've been looking at Navadmins and noticed this: quote:g. Compute Performance Mark Average (PMA) using all evaluations in the So anything that says CTN3 I'm pretty sure I don't have to count. Now I need to study for this exam so I can get paid.
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Mar 20, 2015 00:55
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Kawasaki Nun posted:ADSEPs can carry a variety of dismissal types as its just a separation process IIRC. Why don't you contact your LPO or whoever and make sure this ps3 isn't a retard? i basically don't have a chain of command. haven't got my bonus, haven't drilled, wanted to start IDW class but was told I won't be able to until i'm gained and am in a unit. and then i was never gained, every week i called, still wasn't gained, then i got this email.
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Nwabudike Morgan posted:i basically don't have a chain of command. haven't got my bonus, haven't drilled, wanted to start IDW class but was told I won't be able to until i'm gained and am in a unit. It seems you've hit an insurmountable obstacle. Looks like navy Intel might not be for you.
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Mar 20, 2015 01:10
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Kawasaki Nun posted:It seems you've hit an insurmountable obstacle. Looks like navy Intel might not be for you. it's actually more surmountable than it seems. the way i see it i have 2 options: 1. do the paperwork and submit it and see where that takes me 2. don't do the paperwork and get out of the navy and 420 blaze it
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Mar 20, 2015 01:19
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Nwabudike Morgan posted:2. don't do the paperwork and get out of the navy and 420 blaze it Nwabudike Morgan posted:2. don't do the paperwork and get out of the navy and 420 blaze it Nwabudike Morgan posted:2. don't do the paperwork and get out of the navy and 420 blaze it Nwabudike Morgan posted:2. don't do the paperwork and get out of the navy and 420 blaze it Nwabudike Morgan posted:2. don't do the paperwork and get out of the navy and 420 blaze it Nwabudike Morgan posted:2. don't do the paperwork and get out of the navy and 420 blaze it Nwabudike Morgan posted:2. don't do the paperwork and get out of the navy and 420 blaze it Nwabudike Morgan posted:2. don't do the paperwork and get out of the navy and 420 blaze it [/quote] [/quote] [/quote] [/quote] t out of the navy and 420 blaze it [/quote] [/quote] [/quote] [/quote]
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Sir Lucius posted:Do those blocks even matter for anything? I mean I guess they're used as evidence for why you get the rank you get, but they seem kind of arbitrary. They matter at chiefs boards. Those marks are usually moved around depending on where you fall ranking wise. For instance, I had to lower someone's eo block to get them a higher leadership score but maintaing the trait average.
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i would love to take option 2 but idk if it would gently caress up my chances at getting a job places cause of adsep-a-rino 
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Boon posted:That may be, but that PFC gonna get beat if he doesn't. Yep. They generally won't do it around us, but I've heard stories from folks who have caught them doing poo poo like that. Fortunately for the translators, we took care of them and would always bring them candy/soda and poo poo like that. Most of their translators were mid-way through western educations when they got pulled to do their military. When I first got there, one of the kids was having a particularly rough go and I used to remind him that he was going back to finish his last two years at loving HARVARD...and would make more money and more more succcessful than anyone else there. Their officers are *generally* useless and given 0 responsibility until around the O4 level. They treat their O1s thru O3s like SRs more or less. Reminds me of the time a ROK MSG send the translator to "come get me" because he wanted to ask me a comms question while I was the J6/OPSO for that particular shift. I told the translator to go back and tell the MSG that if he wanted to talk to me, he could come talk to *me*. 20min later the flustred translator shows up with Snarky Mc Snark-Snarkerson MSG who got schooled on gear that he supposedly spent his career learning that I'd spent 15 of those 20min on Wikipedia learning about. gently caress that noise. I loved working with the Koreans, but they have a very culturally systemic problem with how their military runs that is deeply rooted in the Confucianist nature of the culture where they seem to think that age trumps everything else, including military rank, education, and experience. So you find guys who are MSGs who literally just hung out the longest and don't know jack gently caress-all about anything who parade around like they're king dick. Not in maaahhh Aaaarmy.
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Arione posted:got debreifed on my frocked e5 eval today, I fully expected the P as I heard all 6 of us were getting P's shot across the bow. What I didnt loving expect was the 3.0 performance mark average! . 98th percentile on the exam, rates me a 3.0 for job knowledge... 2.5 year in E5 What are you freaking out about? It's a frocked E5 eval after only 2.5 years in. Yes, it is going to look like "bottom of the barrel" that's literally how the system works, even if you're the biggest cock on the block. You 6 are literally the most junior E5s at the command, of course you're going to get bare minimum Ps. The name of the game isn't about getting straight perfect marks across the board, it's about upward-trending. You will undoubtedly continue to trend upward in your new rank, but it would do you a disservice to be frocked and rate an MP/EP and then have to demonstrate progress from that point. Trust me, a P/3.0 on a frocked eval is a GOOD position to be in.
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I love how people always come in here and are like shoot should I get out or re-enlist? And after 20 posts saying out they're always like Ehhhh think I'm gonna do another 4. You know, save money Gets a dependa with baggage that has 3 of his kids, becomes chief and makes juniors miserable because he is. Wellll don't wanna go home to my bitchy wife just gonna stay at work and if I'm here you're here
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Kawasaki Nun posted:
Mostly because it's a retarded system that is based on this dumbfuckery: buttplug posted:What are you freaking out about? It's a frocked E5 eval after only 2.5 years in. Yes, it is going to look like "bottom of the barrel" that's literally how the system works, even if you're the biggest cock on the block. You 6 are literally the most junior E5s at the command, of course you're going to get bare minimum Ps.
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buttplug posted:What are you freaking out about? It's a frocked E5 eval after only 2.5 years in. Yes, it is going to look like "bottom of the barrel" that's literally how the system works, even if you're the biggest cock on the block. You 6 are literally the most junior E5s at the command, of course you're going to get bare minimum Ps. Whoa whoa whoa. That's enough of your "logic," Mr. ButtPlug. You leave that poo poo at the door when you come here.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Mostly because it's a retarded system that is based on this dumbfuckery: How is that dumb? For boards they want to see upwards career trajectory, it makes no sense to give you an mp or ep immediately. The system is set up that way because that's the way they want it to run. If they changed what they looked for and no longer gave a poo poo about upward trends than yea sure, it's dumb.
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PneumonicBook posted:How is that dumb? For boards they want to see upwards career trajectory, it makes no sense to give you an mp or ep immediately. The system is set up that way because that's the way they want it to run. If they changed what they looked for and no longer gave a poo poo about upward trends than yea sure, it's dumb. "Looking for upward trends" as the most important part of a performance evaluation is completely asinine in a way that only career military can come up with.
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Stultus Maximus posted:"Looking for upward trends" as the most important part of a performance evaluation is completely asinine in a way that only career military can come up with. Yes clearly looking for people to get set at a specific bar and see if they can consistently exceed that is asinine. Not sure if the career military was a dig at me, but I'm on my way out and think although it is a system with flaws, it mostly works. All you have to do is be a little bit better than your peers, and honestly most people I've met in the navy are not the highest achievers, so that shouldn't be a hard bar to step over. E: We can birch about the system being broken or whatever but it lays out a specific set of rules, if you follow them you'll succeed. The Navy is easy.
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Seqenenra posted:You don't even have to be an MA, just volunteer to help with the urinalysis program and you'll see all the dick you can stand. 
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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:I love how people always come in here and are like shoot should I get out or re-enlist? And after 20 posts saying out they're always like Ehhhh think I'm gonna do another 4. You know, save money hey man cut me a lil slack, we used to play UO together so you already know im a dirty sperg we ride together we die together
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Mar 20, 2015 06:15
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Nah it was more of a blanket statement. Just seems to be common in the Navy thread
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