|
Any deck playing Elspeth can run erase or abzan advantage, no?
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 02:37
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 09:58 |
|
|
Skyl3lazer posted:Any deck playing Elspeth can run erase or abzan advantage, no?
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 02:52
|
|
|
Skyl3lazer posted:Any deck playing Elspeth can run erase or abzan advantage, no? Essentially, its not like it permanently shuts you down. Jeskai Tokens can also run the same. I'm more concerned for my planned "Mono-Red Goblins" deck. I guess I will need destructive revelries. edit; ^I've seen many arguments that maindecking enchantment hate will be reasonable in DTK Standard. There's just so many powerful enchantments fuelling many decks.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 02:52
|
|
|
Rimusutera posted:Essentially, its not like it permanently shuts you down. Jeskai Tokens can also run the same. Outpost Siege, Chained to the Rocks, Courser, etc. There's actually a ton of targets to hit right now, many of which are win cons if you don't do something about them. qbert posted:Has anyone noticed that not only does Virulent Plague hose token strategies, but it's also really good anti-Elspeth tech? Its probably too narrow even as a sideboard card. Drown in Sorrow is probably better because it's a board wipe on anything with 2 toughness, card or token. Tokens in general would have to be really oppressive for that to be a good card to play.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 03:01
|
|
|
Angry Grimace posted:Outpost Siege, Chained to the Rocks, Courser, etc. This is why Dromoka's Command is going to be main decked in every winning G/W list until rotation.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 03:14
|
|
|
qbert posted:Has anyone noticed that not only does Virulent Plague hose token strategies, but it's also really good anti-Elspeth tech? Good. 
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:01
|
|
|
Rimusutera posted:
That could definitely be the case but I'm really hesitant to run such narrow spells main deck unless I've got a really good way to filter them.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:05
|
|
|
qbert posted:Has anyone noticed that not only does Virulent Plague hose token strategies, but it's also really good anti-Elspeth tech? It might even be Vintage playable! It hoses Dredge, Delver, and Oath.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:18
|
|
|
You could technically beat Virulent Plague by +1'ing Elspeth til you're at 8, use the ultimate, protect her for an additional turn, then start churning out 1/1 Soldiers with flying.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:30
|
|
|
MiddleEastBeast posted:You could technically beat Virulent Plague by +1'ing Elspeth til you're at 8, use the ultimate, protect her for an additional turn, then start churning out 1/1 Soldiers with flying. Nobody is going to let you do that.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:37
|
|
|
So I think I'm doing two-headed giant sealed for the first time this weekend. Is there anything to keep in mind besides "cards that say 'each opponent' are better than normal" and that the two-color hoser cards are probably maindeckable? Might Impact Tremors or Mardu Shadowspear actually be playable? Tasigur's Cruelty obviously seems really good.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:40
|
|
|
MiddleEastBeast posted:You could technically beat Virulent Plague by +1'ing Elspeth til you're at 8, use the ultimate, protect her for an additional turn, then start churning out 1/1 Soldiers with flying. Taking away Elspeth's ability to protect itself is basically the same as killing her.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:46
|
|
|
Entropic posted:So I think I'm doing two-headed giant sealed for the first time this weekend. Is there anything to keep in mind besides "cards that say 'each opponent' are better than normal" and that the two-color hoser cards are probably maindeckable? Might Impact Tremors or Mardu Shadowspear actually be playable? Tasigur's Cruelty obviously seems really good. Just play ALL of your removal and ALL of your bombs and ALL of your card advantage. With double the blockers and extra life you don't want to be messing around with 2/1s and dumb poo poo.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:48
|
|
|
Entropic posted:So I think I'm doing two-headed giant sealed for the first time this weekend. Is there anything to keep in mind besides "cards that say 'each opponent' are better than normal" and that the two-color hoser cards are probably maindeckable? Might Impact Tremors or Mardu Shadowspear actually be playable? Tasigur's Cruelty obviously seems really good. Impact Tremors actually sounds oddly good... You're not in the GTA, right?
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:51
|
|
|
Virulent Plague also hoses Twin in Modern. "Oh you want to attack me with a million 0/2 Exarchs? Have fun with that."
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:53
|
|
|
Spiderdrake posted:There is a good guide buried somewhere in TWoo's article archives, but I couldn't find it before I started punching my monitor. 1 damage to a creature or player when a dude hits the board is really good, it's like a mini Purphoros that you can direct as you will. Now imagine that in my Norin the Wary EDH deck. 
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:54
|
|
|
qbert posted:Virulent Plague also hoses Twin in Modern. Illness in the Ranks already exists and only costs B. It kills Pestermite tokens outright and cripples Exarchs.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:55
|
|
|
Spiderdrake posted:There is a good guide buried somewhere in TWoo's article archives, but I couldn't find it before I started punching my monitor. Nope, up north. Fuzzy Mammal posted:Just play ALL of your removal and ALL of your bombs and ALL of your card advantage. With double the blockers and extra life you don't want to be messing around with 2/1s and dumb poo poo. Yeah, I figure you don't want try to be aggro against 12 packs' worth of removal. Just pack your own removal, play all the bombs, and have one player running all the negates you open? Is the usual strategy to just try to cut the worst color and run two 2-color decks? Or does there tend to always been enough good stuff in each color that one player is splashing for a bomb or some removal? I guess put one player on two colors and giving the other all the fixing makes sense.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:56
|
|
|
Alaan posted:Illness in the Ranks already exists and only costs B. It kills Pestermite tokens outright and cripples Exarchs. Yeah, totally forgot about that. Don't see it played enough on streams.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:57
|
|
|
Do we know what packs will be in the prerelease kits, anyway? I'm guessing the sealed, 3 Dragons, a Fate, and a Khans? Does that sound right?
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:57
|
|
|
Count Bleck posted:1 damage to a creature or player when a dude hits the board is really good, it's like a mini Purphoros that you can direct as you will. If it was creature or player it would be good, but it's only to players. But in 2HG it deals 2 to the other time every time you get a creature instead of 1. Only your creatures trigger it though, not your teammate's.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:58
|
|
|
Count Bleck posted:Do we know what packs will be in the prerelease kits, anyway? No Khans. 4 Dragons, 1 Fate, 1 seeded pack for whichever dragon brood you chose.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:58
|
|
|
efb
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 04:58
|
|
|
Entropic posted:If it was creature or player it would be good, but it's only to players. But in 2HG it deals 2 to the other time every time you get a creature instead of 1. Only your creatures trigger it though, not your teammate's. Dammit. Still good in Norin EDH. Entropic posted:No Khans. 4 Dragons, 1 Fate, 1 seeded pack for whichever dragon brood you chose. DAMMIT
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 05:03
|
|
|
Count Bleck posted:Dammit. Still good in Norin EDH. We're in the alternate timeline now where there's dragons. The draft format is Dragons-Dragons-Fate. Khans of Tarkir is a timeline that no longer exists.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 05:10
|
|
|
Khans->Fate->Dragons would probably be less dysfunctional of a non-intended limited format than most if you wanted to gently caress around with that at some point though.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 05:12
|
|
|
While I understand it was made necessary by the short span between Fate release and Dragon release, I really wish we were just going into pure Dragons. Though the appeal of Shockmaw comboing with Coat with Venom is great.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 05:16
|
|
|
Spiderdrake posted:While I understand it was made necessary by the short span between Fate release and Dragon release, I really wish we were just going into pure Dragons. That sound hilariously nasty. Wow.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 05:18
|
|
|
Alaan posted:Khans->Fate->Dragons would probably be less dysfunctional of a non-intended limited format than most if you wanted to gently caress around with that at some point though. That and triple Dragons both seem like great unofficial formats.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 05:27
|
|
|
Start off drafting FRF then take a pod vote for Khans or Dragons after the first pack
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 05:31
|
|
|
 +1 lili on myself, then unburial rites for the most value possible. G1 had the Reoccuring Nightmare value 
A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Mar 20, 2015 |
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 06:04
|
|
|
No matter what I pick in Khans block prereleases, I always end up going grixis in the end. Mardu in Khans, didn't open good white so filled in the deck with blue, then I did Jeskai for FRF and opened an insane dragon beats deck, no white rares, again.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 06:34
|
|
|
Babylon Astronaut posted:No matter what I pick in Khans block prereleases, I always end up going grixis in the end. Mardu in Khans, didn't open good white so filled in the deck with blue, then I did Jeskai for FRF and opened an insane dragon beats deck, no white rares, again. Grixis control would probably be pretty sweet in DTK if the fixing was there. Red has a bunch of removal, a 3 mana pyroclasm, Dragon lord's servant for cheaper dragons, and a number of high impact, high end rare spells. And tokens to exploit.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 06:44
|
|
|
Ingenious
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 06:57
|
|
|
Fuzzy Mammal posted:Ingenious I like the white bordered duals! It makes them easier to fetch for out of a hundred-odd black-bordered cards.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 07:00
|
|
|
Four Score posted:I like the white bordered duals! It makes them easier to fetch for out of a hundred-odd black-bordered cards. More like fifty-odd, and this is also why you white-border your basics.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 07:02
|
|
|
Oldsrocket_27 posted:It could be worse. The schmuck who runs our LGS now plain forgot to sign up in time, so we just don't get one. I swear to god, if he gets the only shop for over 100 Miles shut down on his pure laziness after myself and a few others worked it for free for a year just to keep the shop running until a new Real Owner could take it, I flat out won't forgive him for it. Same here, our LGS forgot to get our prerelease sanctioned in time too. Four hour drive to the closest prerelease now (well, a bit over three if I headed across the border to closest in nothern Sweden).
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 07:05
|
|
|
Count Bleck posted:Nobody is going to let you do that. qbert posted:Taking away Elspeth's ability to protect itself is basically the same as killing her. I honestly didn't think I needed to append a "  " to the end of my post to convey the obvious and inherent absurdity of playing a planeswalker and having it accomplish literal nothing for 4 consecutive, unprotected, turns, but then again you learn something new every day. Anyway, you guys are right, back to the drawing board.
MiddleEastBeast fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Mar 20, 2015 |
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 07:47
|
|
|
 Not really that evident from the art that this guy has flying.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 10:10
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 09:58 |
|
|
Rinkles posted:
Is he riding a dragon? Or is that just an really elaborate codpiece? I can't even tell what's supposed to be going on in the bottom left of the art there. It looks like he's supposed to be a Naga?
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2015 14:40
|
|