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Nicotine is indeed an effective nootropic drug and has been proven in numerous studies to improve reaction time, driving performance, overnight memory and attention etc. Tobacco is harder to study since the method of delivery is usually smoking and there are many additives used, with different amount and varieties from brand to brand (and of course the source tobacco leaves and methods of processing also vary).quote:Whether those claims were actually true to any extent or just bunk delivered by opportunistic big tobacco hoping to recruit the recruits is another question. This is actually two questions, and the answer is yes.
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Phanatic posted:That's a myth. this is a good rear end post and confirms by my hunch that the reason people drank so much beer is because drinking nothing but water is for desperate men or wackos Rodrigo Diaz fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Mar 19, 2015 |
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Mar 19, 2015 05:38
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uhh, my subjects don't drink water
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yeah who the gently caress drinks rain
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So much more makes sense when I remember that literally nobody I study except Pappenheim spends any large amount of time sober
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HEY GAL posted:So much more makes sense when I remember that literally nobody I study except Pappenheim spends any large amount of time sober Isn't this because dealing with the Germans has driven the Spaniards to drink?
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xthetenth posted:Isn't this because dealing with the Germans has driven the Spaniards to drink? I fail to see how this is a uniquely Spanish issue.
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Keldoclock posted:Nicotine is indeed an effective nootropic drug and has been proven in numerous studies to improve reaction time, driving performance, overnight memory and attention etc. Tobacco is harder to study since the method of delivery is usually smoking and there are many additives used, with different amount and varieties from brand to brand (and of course the source tobacco leaves and methods of processing also vary). To be a little clearer I agreed that nicotine is a stimulant. As far as I know, however, cigarettes were not prescribed to soldiers to actually improve combat performance by boosting reaction times and the like. Instead its supposed therapeutic purpose of easing stress was pushed by tobacco companies on to active soldiers and decision makers in the US, that's the effect I doubted. Easing stress, anxiety and tension is more the realm of sedative drugs than it is for stimulants. Nicotine in particular, raises one's pulse and blood pressure ontop of increasing arousal levels. While nicotine is considered a stimulant/relaxant (Nesbitt's Paradox) its sedative effects due to endorphin release are both very temporary and require the user to take higher doses. Taking higher doses worsens nicotine's later side effects, irritability, headache, tachycardia, pain and tremor. Nicotine's most sedative application actually cannot be acheived by cigarettes either. It seems more like tobacco companies invented a use for cigarettes on very shaky grounds to sell product since nicotine does as much (more really) to worsen stress as it does to ease it, all things considered. e: this article explains things more clearly than I can. hard counter fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Mar 19, 2015 |
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Mar 19, 2015 06:45
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JaucheCharly posted:I don't have a better pic handy, but there you go. If everyone's fighting with pikes, what does that vertical bar over the forehead / nose protect against? Wouldn't you just get piked in the face?
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FAUXTON posted:I fail to see how this is a uniquely Spanish issue. yeah, that would drive anyone to drink
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It's a set of hungarian cavalry armor. The bar protects your face from slashes. You're looking for this.   Safe for the lancers it seems that full face protection wasn't worth it.
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While researching something else entirely in newspaper archives, this peeked up at the top of the page. The ad dates from June 17, 1862. I'm actually surprised that this wasn't an empty promise; the 21st apparently stayed with Jackson through his death.
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HEY GAL posted:It counts only loosely as a performance enhancing drug, but when my grandfather was in the Navy they told him to smoke to keep the mosquitoes off, so he wouldn't get malaria. Was he serving in Asia? It's possible that someone noticed the mosquito coils that people used there (and still do!) as an insect repellent and thought that cigarettes might have a similar effect.
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hard counter posted:e: this article explains things more clearly than I can. What a shame then, that it is $38 to read  On the bright side, I found some of those WWI ads you mentioned.   
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Tomn posted:Was he serving in Asia? It's possible that someone noticed the mosquito coils that people used there (and still do!) as an insect repellent and thought that cigarettes might have a similar effect.
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heroin was originally synthesised as a combat drug iirc, thence the name
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I remember hearing somewhere that bladed weapons called "messer" just means knife in German, and the reason for this was that the laws of the land stopped certain people from carrying longer blades and the "messer" being technically a long knife was a loophole to get around this? I might be wrong but that's why I'm asking.
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100 Years Ago In France, some of the Friendly Feldwebel's comrades do their bit to reinforce the German army's reputation for oafishness. Winston Churchill gets to report yesterday's action at the Dardanelles to the War Council, lucky him. Does it matter if the story about the Ottoman forts running out of ammo is true or not? The Telegraph still doesn't seem to have published a casualty list from Neuve Chapelle, and the various British industrial disputes continue. HEY GAL posted:uhh, my subjects don't drink water https://youtu.be/ujpnXoMeXmY?t=1m13s
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Kanine posted:I remember hearing somewhere that bladed weapons called "messer" just means knife in German, and the reason for this was that the laws of the land stopped certain people from carrying longer blades and the "messer" being technically a long knife was a loophole to get around this? I might be wrong but that's why I'm asking. My understanding is it was not so much the length that made it a knife, but some stuff but having to do with it being single edged and the way the hilt and grip were constructed. So a peasant could legally carry it in places where true swords were reserved for the upper classes.
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V. Illych L. posted:heroin was originally synthesised as a combat drug iirc, thence the name Bwuh? They were trying to synthesize codeine and developed a compound that was stronger than that. Heroisch -> heroin.
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P-Mack posted:My understanding is it was not so much the length that made it a knife, but some stuff but having to do with it being single edged and the way the hilt and grip were constructed. So a peasant could legally carry it in places where true swords were reserved for the upper classes. A sword by their definition has the tang go through the handle and then the handle is riveted on with the pommel. A messer has a hilt constructed like a kitchen knife where the handle is riveted onto the tang. By any other definition a messer is a sword since it was used similarly to any other single edged one handed sword.
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Now I'm thinking of a 40-in long santoku being swung around frantically. "I'LL MAKE RATATOUILLE OUT OF YOU HEATHEN BASTARDS"
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WoodrowSkillson posted:A sword by their definition has the tang go through the handle and then the handle is riveted on with the pommel. A messer has a hilt constructed like a kitchen knife where the handle is riveted onto the tang. By any other definition a messer is a sword since it was used similarly to any other single edged one handed sword. Thanks. I do some messer fencing and they certainly feel pretty swordy. I'm wondering now if there was any clear distinction to be found between messers made for cutting brush around the farm and messers for cutting unlucky soldners around the farm.
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On the topic of tabacco ads and the military, I've always liked these pictures (Atlantikwall near The Hague I believe)  I wonder how effective it was though...
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Mildly silly question: Suppose you were an individual with superhuman strength and/or agility, what sort of medieval weaponry would you use?
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Fangz posted:Mildly silly question: Goddamn 7 foot long Claymore. Thats what.
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Fangz posted:Mildly silly question: A longbow.
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Carry a goddamn cannon.
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Fangz posted:Mildly silly question: How rich are you?
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Fangz posted:Suppose you were an individual with superhuman strength and/or agility, what sort of medieval weaponry would you use? It really depends on what you mean. In a particular sense, you could build an arbalest that would be patently impossible for a normal human to load without a windlass, but that you could load by mere arm strength or with a crow's foot lever. That would be something. Alternatively you could just roll out in impossibly thick plate harness with a halberd or pollaxe, and just wreck everybody from behind that invulnerable armor.
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I still say nobody fucks with someone who hipfires a cannon.
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If its superhuman agility, just a rapier, a buckler, and a spear. If its strength, plate thick enough to stop muskets, a large sword (like The Mountain in Game of Thrones), and a hip cannon with grapeshot. Basically either guy from the Oberyn vs Mountain duel from Game of Thrones. But add a cannon.
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What if the superhuman's prowess only works on TF2?
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FAUXTON posted:I still say nobody fucks with someone who hipfires a cannon. Except for an exploding cannon. 
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The correct answer is to be superhumanly agile, and thus the weapon is "all of them at once".
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Just juggle all the weapons using your superhuman dexterity, and throw them at people with superhuman strength when they get into range of your superhuman vision.
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I would pick super resistance, so I could eat and drink any poo poo and sleep with all women and/or farm animals I can find on the campaign trail without succumbing to plague.
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FAUXTON posted:Carry a goddamn cannon. Blood Meridian was a good book, agreed. Kaal posted:Just juggle all the weapons using your superhuman dexterity, and throw them at people with superhuman strength when they get into range of your superhuman vision. Never have to pay for whores because you're a superhuman lover.
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Nenonen posted:I would pick super resistance, so I could eat and drink any poo poo and sleep with all women and/or farm animals I can find on the campaign trail without succumbing to plague. What about super regeneration so you can do all of the above and also never die on the field of battle.
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Eej posted:What about super regeneration so you can do all of the above and also never die on the field of battle. Of course, getting wounded is still in.
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