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Hypocrisy posted:Seeing that made me sympathize with Crystal a lot more. This part has definitely throws the whole based off a DnD campaign idea out the window. "The golem begins to slaughter gnomes as you fly away." "gently caress em, I keep flying"
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OotS has always been more like the D&D campaign the players and the DM wish would happen. The DM is freakishly good at incorporating random things players did ages ago into the main plot and giving major actions real consequences, and the main characters don't run around doing stupid poo poo to derail the plot all the time. Plus there's actual asymmetry of knowledge rather than "let's all pretend that we don't know the wizard killed that innkeeper because our characters don't know" stuff.
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I'd say it's the opposite. OOTS is precisely the sort of campaign where the DM gets over-invested in the story he's trying to tell and should just write it instead. Which is why it works as a comic.
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Sir Kodiak posted:I'd say it's the opposite. OOTS is precisely the sort of campaign where the DM gets over-invested in the story he's trying to tell and should just write it instead. Which is why it works as a comic. I think it is the sort of campaign where the DM has other issues to deal with and now the players can only meet once every two weeks for thirty minutes.
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Eifert Posting posted:Near epic level characters have a whole mess of HP, huh? Also a flesh golem that has to move to attack can do a maximum of 2d8+5 damage. Even without adamantium weapons, Haley would be able to just fill the golem with arrows. Never pretend that D&D's rules have much to do with this.
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Mystic Mongol posted:Also a flesh golem that has to move to attack can do a maximum of 2d8+5 damage. I'm sure 3.5 has a bunch of ways to juice that up, though?
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Mystic Mongol posted:Also a flesh golem that has to move to attack can do a maximum of 2d8+5 damage. A 17th level or so rogue only has around 60-90 hp, depending on Con bonus. An average of 14 damage a hit (on a basic 9HD golem, this one is A) probably substantially stronger and B) is adding lighting to the attacks) is still a substantial threat. He'd only have to boost Damage Reduction to 10 to make Hailey's arrows scratch damage and to 15 to all but negate them. I'd bet Rich designed the scene with the thought that Crystal is of the same number of HD as Hailey in any case; it's not hard to imagine this as a legitimate encounter
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Crystal's a personal nemesis. She's whatever she needs to be to be challenging but defeatable by Haley.
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New Comic! Fault Lines
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Baron von der Loon posted:New Comic!
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Mar 28, 2015 11:41
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That was fantastic, well worth the wait. (And it was 2.5 strips, which explains the wait.)
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:That was fantastic, well worth the wait. (And it was 2.5 strips, which explains the wait.) yep
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Okay I actually cheered at this, we get to wrap this Bozzok business up quick while Starshine gets her chance to shine.  Great to see those lime green boots in action too, I'd forgotten about 'click heels to activate'.
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Mar 28, 2015 15:24
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How long does the super charge hold?
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Darth TNT posted:How long does the super charge hold? Long enough.
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Kind of weird he wouldn't have a built in control device for a custom made golem. Or maybe that's the next strip.
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Colonel Cool posted:Kind of weird he wouldn't have a built in control device for a custom made golem. Or maybe that's the next strip. For a regular run of the mill golem, sure, but this is a custom still mostly sentient golem. I think any control, she'll shrug off
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Johnny Aztec posted:For a regular run of the mill golem, sure, but this is a custom still mostly sentient golem. A better question: Does bozzok have the foresight to have such a control installed?
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Apparently Flesh Golems (And this is definitely a heavily customized one because they're supposed to be made of corpses ala Voltron) have a 1% chance of going berserk regardless for every round of combat. The creator can re-establish control with a Charisma check. This is as opposed to Clay Golems, which stay berserk forever if they go out of control. There is literally no way RAW to re-establish control. This is for twice the cost of a Flesh Golem. And you can spend even more to make them bigger and stronger, up to 200,000 GP. Why would you do that. Why would anyone pay to make such a thing. Those Cursed Wounds aren't going to feel like such a great idea when you have to pay a cleric to heal you several extra times.
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Zogundar posted:Apparently Flesh Golems (And this is definitely a heavily customized one because they're supposed to be made of corpses ala Voltron) have a 1% chance of going berserk regardless for every round of combat. The creator can re-establish control with a Charisma check. A round is six seconds right? So on average these things can go through ten minutes of combat before freaking out and just trying to kill everything. I know what I wouldn't want in my army.
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Haley demonstrating why Charisma isn't a dump stat.
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So taking bets on how Crystal actually gets killed? Re-deaded? If it was something like put down by Haley by request it would be an interesting counterpoint to the other undead abomination 'helping' the party. ...and if the phrase 'put down' was actually used I'm fulling expecting more jokes in the vein of 'dismiss Celia'...though, eh, I guess that might not fit well with what could be a more serious scene.
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Zoe posted:So taking bets on how Crystal actually gets killed? Re-deaded? I'm not really sure if it's going to work like that, though. I don't think True Resurrection, the ultimate "death does not matter" spell, actually exists in the setting. Getting Roy's body back was something the party had to do rather than something that would make their lives easier, and when Nale got disintegrated everyone treated that as "Nale cannot come back ever". Even in this strip, Haley talks about only needing Raise Dead, not Resurrection, True Resurrection is never mentioned. I think once your body is gone you're poo poo out of luck in Ootsverse, so if Crystal Golem gets fried and they can't pick out enough pieces that are actually Crystal from the pieces that are golem, she's gone for good.
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It exists, it came up once before that probably the only cleric high enough to know True Resurrection is Redcloak.
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Taciturn Tactician posted:I'm not really sure if it's going to work like that, though. I don't think True Resurrection, the ultimate "death does not matter" spell, actually exists in the setting. Getting Roy's body back was something the party had to do rather than something that would make their lives easier, and when Nale got disintegrated everyone treated that as "Nale cannot come back ever". Even in this strip, Haley talks about only needing Raise Dead, not Resurrection, True Resurrection is never mentioned. I think once your body is gone you're poo poo out of luck in Ootsverse, so if Crystal Golem gets fried and they can't pick out enough pieces that are actually Crystal from the pieces that are golem, she's gone for good. Oh no, I didn't mean resurrecting her, no way that's going to happen. Just speculation over the Crystal golem going to be destroyed fighting Bozzok or ask Haley to kill her or be accidentally killed by the party who doesn't realize what sides she's on or what? It's just interesting because here's an undead abomination that wants to go back to being dead as opposed to the others we've been dealing with in the strip.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:That was fantastic, well worth the wait. (And it was 2.5 strips, which explains the wait.) Yeah. March: 3 strips February: 3 strips January: 2 strips December: 3 Keep going: 2, 3, 2, 2, 3 2014 total: 35 strips Strips in book 5: 273, or 8 years at the 2014 rate. http://oots.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Order_of_the_Stick_Comics
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Put Crystal in a Bag of Holding, and toss her at Xyklon like Roy's Bag of Tricks.
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e X posted:Huh, was the last arc really that long? It's comfortably the longest book.
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The difference in days between the first and last strips in book 5 comes to just under 4.5 years. So the rate of strips has decreased significantly since 2009. It's now about half as frequent.
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Zogundar posted:Apparently Flesh Golems (And this is definitely a heavily customized one because they're supposed to be made of corpses ala Voltron) have a 1% chance of going berserk regardless for every round of combat. The creator can re-establish control with a Charisma check. Is there even a myth or something that makes that make sense?
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Anatharon posted:Is there even a myth or something that makes that make sense? The Golem of Prague. Not all versions of the story have the golem going crazy, but there are some that do, and that's where this is taken from.
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D&D ability to take classic mythology, codify it and produce utter bullshit is nothing short of amazing.
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e X posted:D&D ability to take classic mythology, codify it and produce utter bullshit is nothing short of amazing.
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Are pitchforks the best pick against a flesh golem then?
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Windmills and fire are preferred.
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