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I currently have a 250GB Samsung 830 SSD in my computer and I'm thinking about upgrading to a 500GB SSD so I can have more space for games. My question is there software out there I could use to move my OS and games to a new SSD or would I have to re-install Windows 7 and my games from scratch?
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spasticColon posted:I currently have a 250GB Samsung 830 SSD in my computer and I'm thinking about upgrading to a 500GB SSD so I can have more space for games. My question is there software out there I could use to move my OS and games to a new SSD or would I have to re-install Windows 7 and my games from scratch? http://clonezilla.org/ Basically, this is going to let you boot up from a live Clonezilla CD. That Clonezilla OS is going to then let you copy your old HDD to the SSD block-by-block.
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# ? Mar 13, 2015 03:46 |
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Potato Salad posted:http://clonezilla.org/ Thanks for the quick reply but I would be moving from an old SSD (Samsung 830 250GB) not an old HDD so that won't be an issue will it?
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# ? Mar 13, 2015 04:02 |
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spasticColon posted:Thanks for the quick reply but I would be moving from an old SSD (Samsung 830 250GB) not an old HDD so that won't be an issue will it? No, it won't be an issue. Seagate's migration tool, Macrium Reflect Free, Clonezilla, etc are all capable of imaging a drive to another drive. There's probably a couple of dozen of other imaging tools that can also do it, but the ones I mentioned seem to come up in the thread a lot.
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# ? Mar 13, 2015 04:07 |
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The last two drives (HyperX and 840 Pro) in the mega SSD endurance experiment finally died @ 2.1 and 2.5PB of writes http://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead
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# ? Mar 13, 2015 13:50 |
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Kinda concerned that a reboot bricked all the drives there - no read only access.
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# ? Mar 13, 2015 14:37 |
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wipeout posted:Kinda concerned that a reboot bricked all the drives there - no read only access. Agreed. What is the point of a self brick? Surely you'd want any opportunity to retrieve data from a drive no matter how small the chance may be?
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# ? Mar 13, 2015 15:43 |
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I am thinking of replacing my 256gb Crucial M4 with something bigger, like 1tb. Which would be preferred, the Mushkin Reactor or the Samsung 850 EVO?
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# ? Mar 13, 2015 19:26 |
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wipeout posted:Kinda concerned that a reboot bricked all the drives there - no read only access. It concerns me, but I also look at it, and these drives were pushed well past their rated specs. They were easily readable well after they started throwing up errors. The odds of most people ever coming close to this are so close to nill, I don't think its a huge issue. And if you are using them for some kind of commercial/enterprise environment, you better have backups. I'm just impressed how freaking long it took for the 840 Pro and the second Hyper X to die. Very, very good results in my opinion.
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:I am thinking of replacing my 256gb Crucial M4 with something bigger, like 1tb. Which would be preferred, the Mushkin Reactor or the Samsung 850 EVO? The Samsung has a more proven record - the Mushkin uses a relatively unknown Silicon Motion controller paired to Micron 16nm NAND (albeit MLC), which is the same that Crucial is using in the MX200. The reviews show it isn't terrible, but it's also Mushkin's first new SSD in two years' time (other than the new ECO2). BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:The Samsung has a more proven record - the Mushkin uses a relatively unknown Silicon Motion controller paired to Micron 16nm NAND (albeit MLC), which is the same that Crucial is using in the MX200. The reviews show it isn't terrible, but it's also Mushkin's first new SSD in two years' time (other than the new ECO2).
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# ? Mar 14, 2015 18:09 |
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Are there any known issues/things to watch out for regarding the Samsung 850 pro? Is the pro significantly better than the evo ?(i'll still be getting the pro after seeing the endurance test on the 840 pro though). Will i regret getting a 256GB model? Are there any other comparable ssds to consider instead?
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 22:13 |
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Thegrul posted:Are there any known issues/things to watch out for regarding the Samsung 850 pro? Is the pro significantly better than the evo ?(i'll still be getting the pro after seeing the endurance test on the 840 pro though). Will i regret getting a 256GB model? Are there any other comparable ssds to consider instead? There was a fw upgrade that bricked some of the pros. Hardly any performance difference between the pro and evo, pro is probably more durable. I think 256GB is large enough for now, unless it's your only drive. You can consider the Intel 730, it has less fw bugs (though I would still go for 850 pro).
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 23:19 |
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makere posted:There was a fw upgrade that bricked some of the pros. Hardly any performance difference between the pro and evo, pro is probably more durable. I think 256GB is large enough for now, unless it's your only drive. You can consider the Intel 730, it has less fw bugs (though I would still go for 850 pro). I considered the 730, but the slow 240GB version isn't very attractive. I like the power loss protection, and if I were looking for a 512GB ssd I'd certainly want the intel. I'm probably ordering the Samsung 850 pro 256GB tomorrow. I'm not usually one to rush the fw updates. Rather let other people try it out first.
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# ? Mar 15, 2015 23:37 |
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Intel will launch these on April 1st: Here's the official countdown.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 11:38 |
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Now the big question is will my Intel Z68 chipset support or be updated to support NVMe?
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Tab8715 posted:Now the big question is will my Intel Z68 chipset support or be updated to support NVMe? That's not that big a question. If your mainboard's EFI then maybe, but that's a four year old chipset so either it's a drop-in or do you believe in miracles. If it's BIOS then
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 21:55 |
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It's a Biostar TZ68A+ and supports UEFI but I don't see anything about NVMe.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 22:16 |
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Then it all depends on if the PCI-E version can tell your firmware what's up. Since NVMe ports are optional on Haswell Refresh boards the standard form factor one is probably a lost cause without an NVMe-to-PCIE cable and I don't even know if that's a thing outside of add-on cards. I guess wait for someone with more money than sense to try it first. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Mar 16, 2015 |
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Tab8715 posted:Now the big question is will my Intel Z68 chipset support or be updated to support NVMe? Unless Intel has some magic juju that'll update the microcode, probably not. Also, if you don't have an early Ivy Bridge chip in your Z68, you don't have PCIe 3.0 anyway, even if you bought a 'Gen3' board. The only way chipsets that don't natively support or can't be updated to support NVMe can *boot* from a drive like the 750 is by getting one of those hacked-together setups made by ASUS or G.Skill that trick the BIOS into thinking they're AHCI-compatible drives. There isn't anything stopping anyone with a free x4 or better PCIe slot from using these as data drives, though.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 23:25 |
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Well lookie here. TLC for the masses? http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/silicon-motion-sm2256-ssd-preview,4066.html
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# ? Mar 17, 2015 04:57 |
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Could Samsung use that "triple endurance" TLC with their "double endurance" 3D NAND and put it in something new like the "Samsung 860 EVO"?
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Xenomorph posted:Could Samsung use that "triple endurance" TLC with their "double endurance" 3D NAND and put it in something new like the "Samsung 860 EVO"? So far TLC has been kind of a let down in the respect that the 840 and 840 EVOs are both crappy drives. MLC 4 LYFE
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redeyes posted:So far TLC has been kind of a let down in the respect that the 840 and 840 EVOs are both crappy drives. MLC 4 LYFE The same 840 EVO that was a top-selling drive and heavily recommended in this thread? Also, MLC is on its way out. TLC will be the primary NAND used. SLC caches, new ECC methods and "3D" builds will get TLC speed and endurance way up.
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# ? Mar 18, 2015 00:22 |
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Xenomorph posted:The same 840 EVO that was a top-selling drive and heavily recommended in this thread? Samsung had some firmware issues with their TLC drives that destroyed their performance. Apparently TLC is trickier to get right, but I don't think SanDisk has the same issues so it may be just a Samsung issue. Also, please don't reply to redeyes, he's absolutely obnoxious with his hate of TLC drives. I will say that TLC SSDs will be marginalized by MLC drives as the latter becomes cheaper and cheaper. Crucial's BX100 and MX200 looks mighty fine for their price, and they're both MLC. As a matter of fact, there is no decent drive meaningfully cheaper than the Crucial BX100 in the American market at the moment. Unless Micron is eating up some loss with each sale, I think Samsung should go that route since their two previous attempts with TLC has gone a little poo poo (from a consumer point of view). Actually, has anyone with a SSD from SanDisk's Ultra series experienced any of those slowdown?
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# ? Mar 18, 2015 01:42 |
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Intel, Samsung or bust
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# ? Mar 18, 2015 02:00 |
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Any external SSD recommendations here? Performance isn't the biggest concern, but reliability is.
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# ? Mar 22, 2015 20:11 |
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Can't enable rapid mode from Samsung magician on Windows 10 preview. How much performance am I losing?
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 01:12 |
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Is that because it cant detect the OS correctly? I was just about to give the preview a try, but might hold off for a bit
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 04:05 |
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dud root posted:Is that because it cant detect the OS correctly? I was just about to give the preview a try, but might hold off for a bit Yup. Says it right in the box below the greyed out enable button.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 04:07 |
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Try running in compat mode?
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 04:50 |
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Don Lapre posted:Try running in compat mode? Don't know why I didn't think about this before; I'll give it a try tomorrow and let the thread know if it works or not.
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:Can't enable rapid mode from Samsung magician on Windows 10 preview. How much performance am I losing? I remember someone talking about this before, you can enable rapid with 4.4, but not 4.5. But yeah, it's not officially supported and might end up in data loss.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 08:55 |
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Yeah it won't work on Windows 10. To be honest I can't tell any performance difference from when I was running it on Win7 with Rapid.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 15:01 |
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Alright, I'm sure this is a stupid question but a 5 minute google search didn't shed any light. Does manipulating files on a network share through Windows Explorer on my local machine result in any significant writes to my SSD? I have a Qnap NAS that I constantly move and rename files around in the NAS local directories and find it's HTML-based (think router login page) file explorer very clunky, but if doing the same operations through Windows Explorer is adding wear to my SSD I'll knock that poo poo off right quick.
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Anti-Hero posted:Alright, I'm sure this is a stupid question but a 5 minute google search didn't shed any light. Does manipulating files on a network share through Windows Explorer on my local machine result in any significant writes to my SSD? I have a Qnap NAS that I constantly move and rename files around in the NAS local directories and find it's HTML-based (think router login page) file explorer very clunky, but if doing the same operations through Windows Explorer is adding wear to my SSD I'll knock that poo poo off right quick. No.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 17:21 |
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# of people who actually out-wrote an SSD, raise your hand.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 17:43 |
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Bob Morales posted:# of people who actually out-wrote an SSD, raise your hand. I did. To be fair, it wasn't exactly in a consumer environment.
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# ? Mar 23, 2015 17:46 |
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Bob Morales posted:# of people who actually out-wrote an SSD, raise your hand. I abuse the heck out of SSDs (just because); full defrags, DBAN wipes, filling them to 100%, etc. I've been doing this for years and I don't think I have a single drive showing worse than "99%" life remaining. I don't see how anyone could use up a drive with "normal" usage.
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# ? Mar 24, 2015 01:51 |
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I'm down to 84% on a Crucial M4 with 24065 power on hours.
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