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makoto20 posted:I know Rick isn't the hero but is he even a protagonist at this point? Protagonist is central character regardless of alignment, Tony Soprano and Walter White were protagonists of their shows while becoming progressively more villainous as time went on. Scooter_McCabe posted:People I want to die next episode: What kind monster would want one of the last decent human beings left dead 
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Rick and crew are bad at politics when they legitimately have all the aummunition they need to depose Deanna and crew through popular opinion.
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Mar 23, 2015 06:18
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Kill all the useless people and leave Rick, Daryl, Carol & Glenn. Ok i guess Eugene can live too, and Rosita because shes hot.
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Mar 23, 2015 06:19
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God the writing in this is so terrible, has it been the same team of writers for the series run? Anyone know if the line "It's their world now, we only live in it" was in the comics, cause ughhhhh. But despite that I watch it every week.
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Mar 23, 2015 06:23
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The Wolves are gonna show up next episode and Rick and Deeanna are gonna have to learn how to work together? Or do the Wolves show up and everyone pledges undying loyalty to Rick, the murder-king of the walking lands?
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Mar 23, 2015 06:25
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boom boom boom posted:The Wolves are gonna show up next episode and Rick and Deeanna are gonna have to learn how to work together? The second one. The Murder-King of Ton DC will reign.
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Mar 23, 2015 06:30
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OMG JC a Bomb! posted:Michonne: I'm the big person here. I'm the rational one.
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Mar 23, 2015 06:38
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boom boom boom posted:The Wolves are gonna show up next episode and Rick and Deeanna are gonna have to learn how to work together? I really doubt the arrival the of Wolves is going to be any more then a set up for a huge season 6 premiere. Unless the S5 finale is 2 hours long there's no way the Wolves are going to show up and do anything more then become the new terrible enemy that puts Alexandria in a bind. So, the wolves are in the comics I guess, but given that they brand and "herd" walkers towards secure places, will horrifically kill women by tying them to trees, they are clearly large and organized, so I can't tell if they are going to take over Alexandria or just knock down the walls.
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Mar 23, 2015 06:48
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So Capt. Michonne took Det. Rick off the force for being a loose cannon.
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Mar 23, 2015 08:02
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Decent ep. Hard to follow last weeks though. Kind of frustrated how they're taking this Rick/Pete/Deanna thing unless the resolution is awesome I think I prefer how the comics handled it. Comic spoilers: I was sure the wolves were the small group that gets owned right quick in the comics, but it seems like they're setting it up kind of either as the saviors or the whisperers (based on Enid's "it's their world now" thing. That or they're setting her up to be Lydia or Alpha later on
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Mar 23, 2015 08:08
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Also, can someone please teach michonne's actress how to hold a gun ffs Edit oh god that carol sneak peak holy poo poo you crazy wonderful woman lol
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Mar 23, 2015 08:13
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GrAviTy84 posted:Decent ep. Hard to follow last weeks though. Kind of frustrated how they're taking this Rick/Pete/Deanna thing unless the resolution is awesome I think I prefer how the comics handled it. Would be cool if the W's were from the Saviors branding/culling Whisperers.
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Mar 23, 2015 08:24
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ddiddles posted:God the writing in this is so terrible I get the impression that the writing "team" is given no leeway in creating real drama. So much in this show relies on slowly building tension, but every time it's released as a sputtering wet fart. In this episode alone: Sasha knocked to the ground, gnashing walker! She's fine. Carl surrounded by walkers! Hides in a tree trunk. Rick claims that he's going to ultimatum Dr.EtoH; gets in a fistfight and no one dies. Coward grabs the J-Gun, later rushes to the Dr.Rick brawl! Nah not gonna use it. The loving preacher wasn't even in this episode, despite the mild cliffhanger last week. It's not my assertion that every scene must have action, just that most of the episodes now are filled with meaningless action and uninteresting character drama that doesn't pay off at all. Jump-scare knockdowns by zombies that end with grabbing that knife just-out-of-reach are so goddamn trite 50 episodes in. Rick should have died at the end of that snarling monologue. His character built up to that moment and now I have to watch him be another vanilla Michonne/Daryl character that long-outlives the writers' capacity to make him interesting or dynamic.
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Lycus posted:So Capt. Michonne took Det. Rick off the force for being a loose cannon. Turn in your badge and your stolen gun.
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Mar 23, 2015 09:26
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I missed the sneak peek, is it on youtube or something?
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Mar 23, 2015 10:08
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SinistralRifleman posted:Rick and crew are bad at politics when they legitimately have all the aummunition they need to depose Deanna and crew through popular opinion. This, jesus christ no wonder law enforcement is so terrible in the US if this is anything to go by.
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Mar 23, 2015 12:39
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God these people suck. Bring on the Ricktatorship.
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Mar 23, 2015 13:19
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You mean Carolxandria. "...Eugeneburg?" "It's a little bitty place."
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Mar 23, 2015 13:24
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So Aaron and Darryl are looking for survivors. They find a camp but decide not to use binoculars or their fancy listening device? Those could have helped the mystery of the guy who's arms and legs fell off or the lady that got the emergency C section.
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Mar 23, 2015 13:27
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moist turtleneck posted:So Aaron and Darryl are looking for survivors. They find a camp but decide not to use binoculars or their fancy listening device? Those could have helped the mystery of the guy who's arms and legs fell off or the lady that got the emergency C section. All they showed so far was a campfire way off in the distance.
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Mar 23, 2015 13:43
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This show spends an incomprehensible amount of time building up things that probably can't live up to the build up. Hopefully the season finale ends with a shot of Morgan eating a can of beans and taking a piss as he finishes the first half of his journey towards the show.
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Mar 23, 2015 13:45
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This show is the most entertaining when Rick is a murderous psychopath. I want them to kill off Sasha because her dumb suicide squad PTSD tantrums are boring as gently caress and no one gives a poo poo.
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Mar 23, 2015 14:04
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SBJ posted:This show is the most entertaining when Rick is a murderous psychopath. I want them to kill off Sasha because her dumb suicide squad PTSD tantrums are boring as gently caress and no one gives a poo poo. I think it's because everyone has had one. Rick when he lost Laurie, Tyrsese has had them on accident several times when he gets trapped in an area with 100 zombies and a hammer, Abraham just last week, I'm sure the list goes on. But the point is, everyone has been there done that.
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Mar 23, 2015 14:14
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delfin posted:You mean Carolxandria. I laughed harder than I should at this reference. 
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GrAviTy84 posted:Kind of frustrated how they're taking this Rick/Pete/Deanna thing unless the resolution is awesome I think I prefer how the comics handled it. Huh? That's playing out almost exactly as it did in the comics, the biggest difference being that they started the romance between Rick and Jessie before the conflict rather than after it, and even then Jessie is the one who comes on to him and he's reluctant to pursue it at first. Crashing out the window, fighting in the street, the gun and rant, Michonne hitting Rick were all the same.
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Mar 23, 2015 14:46
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Ars Arcanum posted:This is all true, though Rick's motives seem warped with his creepy thing for Jessie (though it's even creepier that everyone else is just kind of Ok with Pete being an abusive rear end in a top hat) Well, the world has changed, there isn't time to bullshit around and there isn't a system to deal with complex issues. It all breaks down to two choices; live or die. All the times he's been patient and took time to handle things has come around and backfired heavily on him and the group. So much like sasha has taken on the "charge the enemy" mentality, so has rick, though their enemies are different.
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Mar 23, 2015 16:25
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I'm enjoying how much crazier and crazier Rick is getting. While he has good reason to remove a wife beater, he's also obviously using it to get rid of Pete and claim Jesse to perhaps form his own twisted family. It's so creepy and manipulative.
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Mar 23, 2015 16:26
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Now that Rick has shaved, the only thing missing from his character arc is mysteriously dumping potable water on his head, on the ground, etc. We've already got him going crazy and lusting after some guy's wife. I guess he doesn't want to be that other kid's dad yet though.
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Noirex posted:I'm enjoying how much crazier and crazier Rick is getting. While he has good reason to remove a wife beater, he's also obviously using it to get rid of Pete and claim Jesse to perhaps form his own twisted family. It's so creepy and manipulative. Rick's never been quite the same after he spent a week or two baking in the sun at the prison and the whole phone thing.
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(stares at the announced guests for next week's talking dead) ... D: GrAviTy84 posted:Also, can someone please teach michonne's actress how to hold a gun ffs Also I'm kind of glad she holds the gun wonky, considering she doesn't use them really. Kind of wished she fired a few misses.
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Dr. Abysmal posted:Huh? That's playing out almost exactly as it did in the comics, the biggest difference being that they started the romance between Rick and Jessie before the conflict rather than after it, and even then Jessie is the one who comes on to him and he's reluctant to pursue it at first. Crashing out the window, fighting in the street, the gun and rant, Michonne hitting Rick were all the same. it's so much shorter in the comics iirc. maybe it just felt that way because it was there and over in like one issue. Also Rick never pulls the gun on Douglas it was like, shown tucked into his boot or something and Douglas sees it and says basically what someone else said "you didn't use it which shows you have restraint" and basically allows rick to carry a gun from then on. Basically, I'm frustrated that they're making Rick out to be a sociopath and Deanna out to be an ignorant idiot when Douglas is way more realistic and Rick in the comics is in control all the time.
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Mar 23, 2015 17:48
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I was half expecting Sasha to miss one of the walkers and take out one of the support beams.
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Mar 23, 2015 18:04
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ddiddles posted:God the writing in this is so terrible, has it been the same team of writers for the series run? Why? You know no one will think less of you if actually admit liking something.
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Mar 23, 2015 18:09
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Tellah posted:
I'm pretty sure this is heresy. Rick dying? I don't think I can handle no Ranger Rick
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Mar 23, 2015 18:09
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The only person who I would probably care about dying is Carol. Glenn would also suck to lose, but the rest could easily die without me being bothered by it that much.
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Mar 23, 2015 18:19
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Marshmallow Blue posted:Rick's never been quite the same after he spent a week or two baking in the sun at the prison and the whole phone thing. True, but that's more mental trauma. What he's doing right now is making decisions that mirrors Shane's violent, creepy obsession with another man's wife.
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Mar 23, 2015 18:26
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Shooting Blanks posted:I missed the sneak peek, is it on youtube or something? Finally found a copy, not sure why it isn't on AMC at the moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX5xePS711k
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Mar 23, 2015 18:32
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I think that's a bit much. I mean it's obviously there. Rick is obviously attracted to Jessie and is conflicted about how much of this is about that and how much is just about doing what's right. But Shane was on the flip side of things. Shane did things that were selfish and then rationalized them as necessary. Rick knows that dealing with Pete is necessary and has had all the proper discussions with Carol and Deanna about it, but the fact that it also feeds into his selfish desires is troubling. And it's clearly troubling him. Shane never actually questioned himself or worried about his motivations.
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Mar 23, 2015 18:38
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I need rick to grow the beard back. Its so much better with the beard.
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STAC Goat posted:I think that's a bit much. I mean it's obviously there. Rick is obviously attracted to Jessie and is conflicted about how much of this is about that and how much is just about doing what's right. But Shane was on the flip side of things. Shane did things that were selfish and then rationalized them as necessary. Rick knows that dealing with Pete is necessary and has had all the proper discussions with Carol and Deanna about it, but the fact that it also feeds into his selfish desires is troubling. And it's clearly troubling him. I think it plays into his animalistic tendencies. He pretty much said "if you want something you take it". He wants Jessie. The conflict is between pure animalism of the outside world vs the sheer ignorance inside the walls. They have to find a middle ground. Rick has lost his foundation ever since Herschel died, I would argue that that was more traumatizing to his character than losing his dumb rear end wife was. They had pretty much admitted to each other that their marriage was poo poo right before she died.
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