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Killer robot posted:I figure it only dumps on anything if you make a map of proposals that pass and survive court challenges. Failed thrashing by shrinking minorities on the wrong side of history is more schadenfreude.
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PhilippAchtel posted:Funnily enough, rigorous study of the Bible as itself inspired by other works in a long tradition of Middle Eastern literature does a lot to take the wind out of the Uniquely Inspired By God interpretation. This isn't a problem for literature or history scholars, but any study of the Pentateuch, etc that put them in their proper historical context would be rejected as antireligious, just as evolutionary theory is fought as one "side" of a controversy rather than simply the best theory that fits the facts. Yeah - it was strictly in a literature sense, not as a historical source, since there was a hell of a lot of the whole "THIS CITY-STATE BROUGHT TO YOU BY TIAMAT" type stuff and it was part of a good background on how those religions worked into daily life. A bit like reading Beowulf in a medieval history class. You know stuff like the Grendel is a load of poo poo but you also know stuff Beowulf did was heroic and from that you can infer certain aspects of society, such as how people partied and what was glorified.
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Mar 23, 2015 16:00
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Why do they want to eliminate the University of Illinois? Call it a hunch, but I think it's because you can't make freedom of speech arguments against a
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Mar 23, 2015 16:01
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Why do they want to eliminate the University of Illinois? What better way to improve education by addition of profit motivation through worship of Free Market?
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Mar 23, 2015 16:01
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I thought privatization was good? Why are they calling it nonpublic?
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Mar 23, 2015 16:02
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The Bible is essential context of English/Western literature and that should at least be discussed. Honestly it's unavoidable if you want to make a real attempt to teach art, literature, and history.
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Mar 23, 2015 16:04
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:The problem is that some of these may survive challenge, and will make life miserable for people for years before they get overturned. So you're saying you agree with exactly what I said.
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Mar 23, 2015 16:04
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DemeaninDemon posted:What better way to improve education by addition of profit motivation through worship of Free Market? Isn't that pretty much every university in the US though?
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Meanwhile, the crowd at a Tom Cotton foreign policy event waits to hear how he'll deal with the Barbary pirates.
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Mar 23, 2015 16:06
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Joementum posted:Meanwhile, the crowd at a Tom Cotton foreign policy event waits to hear how he'll deal with the Barbary pirates. If they really wanted to go full on time period I don't think they would allow women to participate in a political capacity.
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Mar 23, 2015 16:07
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Killer robot posted:So you're saying you agree with exactly what I said.
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Joementum posted:Meanwhile, the crowd at a Tom Cotton foreign policy event waits to hear how he'll deal with the Barbary pirates. Write a bitchy letter to the Pasha's brother promising to reneg on any deals Jefferson makes?
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Mar 23, 2015 16:13
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CommieGIR posted:Ah, fair enough. Now lets freak out about AP Art history classes having exams on the saints!
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Mar 23, 2015 16:14
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Gravel Gravy posted:Isn't that pretty much every university in the US though? Sort of but they hide it behind NCAA trophies and articles published in high-impact journals. Being non-public lets them remove it and just go 'gently caress you got mine.' Also gives them protections to gently caress over people they don't like.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Call it a hunch, but I think it's because you can't make freedom of speech arguments against a  Gravel Gravy posted:Isn't that pretty much every university in the US though? 
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Link? The original GQ article about it is no longer available online, as far as I can tell, but I found another one that had all of the slides saved.             Personally, I'm more upset about how bad a cabinet level ppt presentation is designed, those fonts and colors are terrible and everything is a jumbled mess.
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Yik Yak is a smart phone app that allows you to make anonymous comments about events in your area. It is incredibly overvalued even by app standards and not very social for social media, but it has a strong following among college students who want to use it to complain about things at their schools without catching blowback for them (eg Butler students not caring about march madness). This includes the students at Liberty University, where Ted Cruz is announcing his run for president http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-03-23/ted-cruz-has-skeptics-at-liberty-and-they-use-yik-yak When even the most dogmatically indoctrinated youth are sniping at you, you may have an outreach problem
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hobbesmaster posted:Now lets freak out about AP Art history classes having exams on the saints! Nah, they are generally good examples of classical art for study of design and layout.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I actually thought it might be related to Salaita, but it doesn't make sense to me. It'd be an insane overreaction to a single case, and while the Republican Party is known for that, it's so over-the-top I'm guessing it has to do more with both blocking the lower classes access to higher education and "small government." Also, I imagine some of them want to make UI a for-profit institution I'm not saying you're wrong. If it was just about Salaita they probably wouldn't do it. But Salaita goes hand in hand with the rest of the stuff you mentioned, and if you've got one stone, and a second bird lands next to that one you've been sizing up for some time...
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CommieGIR posted:It is fantastic literature. Why don't they just found private Catholic/Protestant school boards like in Canada?
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Mar 23, 2015 16:52
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Number crunching on the republican budgets is in - 69% of cuts from programs for people with low or modest incomes http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=5289
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Mar 23, 2015 16:55
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Considering the complete irrelevance the Illinois Republican party has in the legislature that bill is pretty pointless. They've controlled the House once in the last 60+ years (95-96, when the contract with America went nation wide).
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Mister Macys posted:Why don't they just found private Catholic/Protestant school boards like in Canada?
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Blastedhellscape posted:I can’t see it happening but it would be nice if people were taught that even the plausible sounding stuff in the Old Testament is about as historically accurate as the Epic of Gilgamesh or stories about Hercules. I wasn’t even raised religious but for a long time I just sort of assumed that at some point the Israelites were enslaved by the Egyptians. It’s this story that’s just sort of hammered into you culturally. Eh. They probably were actually slaves or otherwise residents of Egypt. Not only do they give their super important leader for all time an Egyptian name, they also made themselves slaves in their own narrative, which is rare. However, they did not build the pyramids, which has somehow become a thing people believe.
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Fried Chicken posted:Yik Yak is a smart phone app that allows you to make anonymous comments about events in your area. It is incredibly overvalued even by app standards and not very social for social media, but it has a strong following among college students who want to use it to complain about things at their schools without catching blowback for them (eg Butler students not caring about march madness). That they think they are a terrorist target is both adorable and hilarious.
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Kafka Esq. posted:We only really have a mandated public Catholic system here, I don't see any private school boards. Oh, I must have misread that recent Supreme Court decision about Catholic schools being allowed to teach with a Catholic bias then. I thought I saw the word private at some point. But still, why aren't there catholic school boards? Is it the whole "Protestants founded are country!" thing? Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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Radish posted:That they think they are a terrorist target is both adorable and hilarious. I don't know, it would sort of make sense. If you're looking to do bin Laden-style terrorism (poke the bear and let him bleed himself out) there'd be worse targets than a room full of America's biggest chickenhawks.
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I present for your enjoyment World Net Daily Text
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Fried Chicken posted:When even the most dogmatically indoctrinated youth are sniping at you, you may have an outreach problem 
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Mister Macys posted:Oh, I must have misread that recent Supreme Court decision about Catholic schools being allowed to teach with a Catholic bias then. I thought I saw the word private at some point. quote:this title shall not apply to [...] a religious corporation, association, educational institution, or society with respect to the employment of individuals of a particular religion to perform work connected with the carrying on by such corporation, association, educational institution, or society of its activities Edit: and there aren't school boards because of how the organizations are incorporated. I don't know of anything that would preclude it, but it would be expensive to alter the current set up and the motivations to keep it how t is gets into the very complicated and rather obscure politics of the Catholic Church and other groups. Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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zoux posted:I present for your enjoyment World Net Daily Text ooo we're almost at the muslim page sniping era(woops for chat thread that is) 
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There's something really creepy about Ted Cruz announcing his candidacy at what's basically a 10,000 seat megachurch the college is forced to attend.
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Mar 23, 2015 17:36
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Five years ago today, the signing of Obamacare. Joe Biden never changes.
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Luigi Thirty posted:There's something really creepy about Ted Cruz announcing his candidacy at what's basically a 10,000 seat megachurch the college is forced to attend. I don't know that there is anything about that situation that isn't creepy.
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i should get this thing, i didn't even think of the lulz to be had from being so close to liberty
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Is the Wisconsin Voter ID thing the one that was deliberately intended to disenfranchise UW students who are living on campus during elections and not in their hometown?
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Joementum posted:Five years ago today, the signing of Obamacare. Joe Biden never changes. You look great in that vest, very clean. Dr. King would be proud.
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why is there a small child loitering amid all those congressfolk anyway
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PupsOfWar posted:why is there a small child loitering amid all those congressfolk anyway He was mentioned in floor speeches during the passage of PPACA. His mother lost her job and died due to lack of healthcare.
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Fried Chicken posted:in theory, I'm in full agreement. You could teach a course on idioms from the bible alone, much less getting in to its role in influencing wider literature, art, culture, law, and history. I argue for it because I want people to have a good understanding of their culture. I certainly do not want it being taught in History classes that the founding fathers wanted it as the law of the land.
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