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I think just outright weaker versions of other skills are gonna be out.
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Are there any scum ships that you would want more than 1x of, other than the aggressor?
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Mar 24, 2015 01:51
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Rusty Kettle posted:Are there any scum ships that you would want more than 1x of, other than the aggressor? Possibly the firespray, but the testing on that is early. There have been some decent double BH lists I've seen in more than one store champs.
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Mar 24, 2015 01:54
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Y-Wings. You need more Y-Wings.
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Mar 24, 2015 02:10
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Scyks are pretty cool. Having a couple cheap rear end Mangler Cannons is p nice.
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Mar 24, 2015 02:11
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I'd say M3-A Scyks you'd prob want 2+ of. 1 by itself isn't really a stellar addition to any list but a few with mangos is decent filler. beaten
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Mar 24, 2015 02:11
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Rusty Kettle posted:Are there any scum ships that you would want more than 1x of, other than the aggressor? I've had some fun with M3-A swarms. Either 4 with HLC or 5 with Ion Cannon, either way it's been a blast. You can also run up to 4 StarVipers in a normal game, and I've enjoyed them enough to try it.
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Mar 24, 2015 02:17
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so is the game still only "two player" or can you have all three factions going on? Also when will Maarek Stele finally get his due 
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Mar 24, 2015 09:23
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Aces High posted:Also when will Maarek Stele finally get his due Soon. When the raider comes out he'll be worth taking
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Mar 24, 2015 09:25
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Aces High posted:so is the game still only "two player" or can you have all three factions going on?
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Mar 24, 2015 09:29
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Having to fork out $100 just to make the TIE/ad a useful ship again is a bit poo poo. Then again, I guess this is how FFG make all their money.
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Mar 24, 2015 12:24
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Endman posted:Having to fork out $100 just to make the TIE/ad a useful ship again is a bit poo poo. Then again, I guess this is how FFG make all their money. 
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Mar 24, 2015 12:26
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Endman posted:Having to fork out $100 just to make the TIE/ad a useful ship again is a bit poo poo. Then again, I guess this is how FFG make all their money. Still better than paying out the rear end for crew R2-D2 and C3-P0. There is really no other reason to get the CR90.
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Mar 24, 2015 12:32
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It's maximum FFG. Instead of issuing errata and going "whoops, our bad, all TIE Advanced pilots are X points cheaper" they're printing a 0-point title that gives you a 4-point discount on one specific type of upgrade and is only available in a $100 ship but you get four copies. 
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Mar 24, 2015 12:33
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CR-90 is fun to play, the epic game that we had was a lot of fun, we probably need to do that again (although a CR90, Medium Transport and like 6 fighters against 6 TIE/F, 3 TIE/B and 6 TIE/I was a relatively easy win for the imperials).
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Mar 24, 2015 12:36
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Lemon Curdistan posted:It's maximum FFG. Instead of issuing errata and going "whoops, our bad, all TIE Advanced pilots are X points cheaper" they're printing a 0-point title that gives you a 4-point discount on one specific type of upgrade and is only available in a $100 ship but you get four copies. I actually don't mind the no-errata approach, since changing the point costs of things would mean you'd leave a whole bunch of people with the old pilot cards with the old pilot costs on them. What I object to is distributing these "fix" cards with massively expensive epic ships that only get used very rarely. I think Rebel/Imperial Aces was the right way to do it. It's not as expensive and you get a cool alternate colour scheme. I'd like to see another couple of those box sets, maybe one with the TIE defender in it with a refit that makes it a bit cheaper, and an X-Wing aces set with Wraith pilots would be super sweet.
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Mar 24, 2015 12:48
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Tekopo posted:CR-90 is fun to play, the epic game that we had was a lot of fun, we probably need to do that again (although a CR90, Medium Transport and like 6 fighters against 6 TIE/F, 3 TIE/B and 6 TIE/I was a relatively easy win for the imperials). Yep it will be more interesting with another capital ship on the table. It's just a shame the new one is better in every way :/
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Mar 24, 2015 12:57
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Braced for CR90 fix card bundled with Home One.
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Mar 24, 2015 12:58
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You can run the upcoming TIE advanced improvements on Vassal and it's sort of ho-hum. The TIE advanced dial is still pretty bland. Never tried running 4 at once though.
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Mar 24, 2015 14:55
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Try Vader with EU/ATC/VI. Makes him impossible to pin down, gets reliable damage, arc-dodges like the best of them and is quite affordable points wise. I was more than impressed at how Vader handles with the upgrade. The ATC isn't great on low-PS Tie Advanced pilot, however.
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Mar 24, 2015 15:00
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The new age of arc Dodgers' return is making me seriously consider Corran Horn as Han's support but he's just so expensive. A-wings are still terrible.
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Mar 24, 2015 15:50
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People get stuck on that -2 chaardan refit: put prockets on your A-Wings. Hell, I've seen a homing missile one shot Soontir once. Have VI/PtL on Jake or Tycho and some ordinance and the little A-Wing is seriously mean.
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Mar 24, 2015 15:56
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That's almost the 'problem' with the way they did Chaardan refit; You can view it as (from a Squad POV, in terms of 'I could have spent these elsewhere') that all Missiles are now 2 points more expensive for an A-Wing.
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Mar 24, 2015 16:01
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Shockeh posted:That's almost the 'problem' with the way they did Chaardan refit; You can view it as (from a Squad POV, in terms of 'I could have spent these elsewhere') that all Missiles are now 2 points more expensive for an A-Wing. Right. I'd much rather a +2, get +1 attack instead. Or even +3. I really do love the models and idea and would love to play the rebel version of Soontir and friends but they really make it hard. The shields aren't that much better.
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Mar 24, 2015 16:04
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Yeah, it is a problem (and something I wish they had 'fixed' in a different way, make it take the modification slot instead?), but really the fix to the A-Wing wasn't Chaardan refit, but being able to have a dual EPT, which is unprecedented and gives them an edge on Intie pilots with equal PS since they can fit in VI. EDIT: Modifications would be bad as well due to Autothrusters I guess. Tekopo fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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Mar 24, 2015 16:06
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I mean, in the end, this issue is really how ordnance is used and priced within the game. I think just straight out giving a +1 attack to the A-Wing to 'fix' it would be really boring and would really remove a lot of choice and design space in terms of how to make the A-Wing distinct. Ideally, the cost of the ordinance should be lower, or even better, an upgrade card should be produced along the lines of 'Munition Reserves' that allows you to fire something twice (at a reduced cost). This would help ships get more bang out of their buck (and ships with two slots of the same type would still be useful to add variety to their ordnance). Tekopo fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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Mar 24, 2015 16:25
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I would play with ordnance if I could fire them twice for a small cost, yeah. That's decent enough to take down a rival Baron, decimator, IG, or falcon and the 2 attack isn't that bad against supporting jousters.
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Mar 24, 2015 16:28
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The problem is requiring a target lock, requiring the target in arc, then needing a focus just to maximize the dice for something that costs up to 6 points for a one time use. Bleck. Horrible action economy for something like that. Allowing second uses of torpedoes is neat but it doesn't resolve the action economy issue. Missiles suffer a lot less (Proton Rockets are really cool) but you still ideally want a Target Lock too when you are spending something that you discard.
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The fact that the only reliable way to use APTs are with PtL and that you have to spend 3 extra points to just be able to use it is also hilarious(ly bad). Without counting having to be at range 1. APTs are so gimmicky it's unreal.
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This owns. Anime is good. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU
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Mar 24, 2015 16:58
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I just wish there was a 4 or 5 skill generic A-Wing pilot.
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CODChimera posted:I just wish there was a 4 or 5 skill generic A-Wing pilot. Edit: and for only one point more than a green squadron pilot! Tekopo fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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Chill la Chill posted:This owns. Anime is good. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU I really detest anime, but this was good. Lots of cute little throwbacks to X-Wing and Tie Fighter. I liked the mission planning overview when they were launching using the old symbols. Rebels got wrecked 
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Mar 24, 2015 17:11
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Chill la Chill posted:This owns. Anime is good. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU It does. I was surprised to see how much more there was than the two or three minutes we've seen around before. Time to round up players for the RPG campaign...
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Mar 24, 2015 17:12
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Chill la Chill posted:This owns. Anime is good. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU I love the cluster missiles in the bomber totally being an excuse to shove an Itano circus in there, and the ISD turrets suddenly turning into Universal Century beam turrets when they fire. e; I'm super disappointed the Interceptor pilot does basically nothing in that. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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Mar 24, 2015 17:13
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Chill la Chill posted:This owns. Anime is good. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU God, he even threw in the loving incoming missile alert.
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Mar 24, 2015 17:13
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I was thinking I could buy a sweet x wing or general Star Wars FFG game smiley but I need the money for x wangs I have also already watched that thing thrice since seeing it. It owns. LOL imagine a moe version starring howl runner and the phantom pilots 
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Mar 24, 2015 17:18
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Yeah, that video owns, watched it more than a couple of times when I found out about it.
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Mar 24, 2015 17:27
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Those are some scrub Rebels, holy poo poo. Also that Interdictor turned on God Mode
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Talk about pleasantly surprised. For an amateur, that dude hit it out of the park. And, yeah. The whole thing is way more interesting than the little clips we've seen here and there.Aces High posted:Those are some scrub Rebels, holy poo poo. Also that Interdictor turned on God Mode Not every Rebel battlegroup can be led by Ackbar and have Antilles as their CAG.
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