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Boxturret posted:well ideally i'd like take out all of california but we have to start somewhere yeah, start with Menlo then, at least the stretch of Sand Hill from Santa Cruz to 280: the funding dries up, and the people keeping them from going totally insane disappear from their boards. warn me first so I can get my family out of the city limits though, OK?
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uncurable mlady posted:the only people that use c++ are people doing graphics engines and poo poo i mean i am sorta starting to turn in the direction of some "high performance" type of stuff in what i guess you'd call computational biology or bioinformatics or whatever since thats what my background is in and it seems like the fast stuff is usually in c++ but i sorta feel like being able to work with computers and biology at the same time might just be a pipe dream and the world only wanted people to grind out insurance or financial or whatever the usa is supposed to be doing software (presently 1099 stuff like uber just literally creating jobs so horrible you have to "long tail" the labor force to eke a profit and skirt the oppressive minimum wage and obama care laws that keep you from making poors take out loans to finance your poo poo company)
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Marzzle posted:i mean i am sorta starting to turn in the direction of some "high performance" type of stuff in what i guess you'd call computational biology or bioinformatics or whatever since thats what my background is in and it seems like the fast stuff is usually in c++ but i sorta feel like being able to work with computers and biology at the same time might just be a pipe dream and the world only wanted people to grind out insurance or financial or whatever the usa is supposed to be doing software (presently 1099 stuff like uber just literally creating jobs so horrible you have to "long tail" the labor force to eke a profit and skirt the oppressive minimum wage and obama care laws that keep you from making poors take out loans to finance your poo poo company) have you considered the exciting field of research computing? enjoy getting a phd in CS so people will take you seriously
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I mean, really the best thing you can do is not worry about the language you focus on in school and instead focus on Object Oriented concepts, learn pointer math, and know how to handle a relational database, you'll probably be fine. Because reallyNintendo Kid posted:ruby can't scales and if you know Java and OO like the back of your hand, everything else will pretty much fall into place. Oh, and being able to string a coherent sentence together to explain a technical thing to a non-technical person.
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yep learn to whore the data. knowing how large datasets are managed these days is a huge leg up and will get you at least entry-level just about anywhere rn
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Marzzle posted:i mean i am sorta starting to turn in the direction of some "high performance" type of stuff in what i guess you'd call computational biology or bioinformatics or whatever since thats what my background is in and it seems like the fast stuff is usually in c++ but i sorta feel like being able to work with computers and biology at the same time might just be a pipe dream and the world only wanted people to grind out insurance or financial or whatever the usa is supposed to be doing software (presently 1099 stuff like uber just literally creating jobs so horrible you have to "long tail" the labor force to eke a profit and skirt the oppressive minimum wage and obama care laws that keep you from making poors take out loans to finance your poo poo company) there is more to the world than working in insurance or big garbage baby bubble crap.
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Like, as far as I can tell, the easiest way to 6 figures $big $money is to put in your time in the trenches while proving that you are more than a "beep boop" programmer and then start making moves towards a management position. Although once you move one step above "finishing tickets for the sprint" you stop coding altogether so 
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learn and apply a variety of programming languages including c++ do not wait for your school to teach them to you
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Greatbacon posted:Like, as far as I can tell, the easiest way to 6 figures $big $money is to put in your time in the trenches while proving that you are more than a "beep boop" programmer and then start making moves towards a management position. Although once you move one step above "finishing tickets for the sprint" you stop coding altogether so good managers are actually useful and cool its a shame they barely exist
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uncurable mlady posted:good managers are actually useful and cool its a shame they barely exist one of my favourite things about FB is that there's a bunch of manager training, and it's a prereq for actually managing. if you're not excited by the "this is what your time is spent on" stuff after the training, keep coding! it pays the same!
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uncurable mlady posted:good managers are actually useful and cool its a shame they barely exist yeah. my old manager here was really great but then he got promoted to director of a different department so I hardly see him anymore. now I don't have a manager. sad times.
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Subjunctive posted:one of my favourite things about FB is that there's a bunch of manager training, and it's a prereq for actually managing. if you're not excited by the "this is what your time is spent on" stuff after the training, keep coding! it pays the same! hey i'm gonna be there on thursday if you want to grab some lunch bbq shack at noon? let's do it.
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Boxturret posted:well ideally i'd like take out all of california but we have to start somewhere lol, we're the only state with our poo poo together
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Subjunctive posted:one of my favourite things about FB is that there's a bunch of manager training, and it's a prereq for actually managing. if you're not excited by the "this is what your time is spent on" stuff after the training, keep coding! it pays the same! how's that work out for you guys, because that's the first thing i've ever read about facebook that puts a mark in the 'positive' column Elder Postsman posted:yeah. my old manager here was really great but then he got promoted to director of a different department so I hardly see him anymore. now I don't have a manager. sad times. my old manager at this new place was kinda creepy and got canned after like 7 months but holy poo poo i miss having a manager because now we're directly managed by one of the co-founders and he's pulled in like 80 different directions
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your dad probably hosed the family finances by working for startups and taking equity in lieu of pay. hint: don't take equity in lieu of pay if you work at a startup the entire "sharing" economy could explode without significantly hurting anything for programmers beyond their ability to call a cab. uber has something like a thousand actual employees worldwide, but based on their job board maybe 5% of them are programmers technologies are shifting constantly but the field overall is very healthy. your programming degree will get you a good job for another twenty years at least. at worst salaries will drop half a pretty deece figgie and you'll end up with a job that's still in easy range of upper middle class but nothing but death is certain
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duTrieux. posted:lol, we're the only state with our poo poo together as long as prop 13 remains in force california does not have its poo poo together, by definition
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duTrieux. posted:lol, we're the only state with our poo poo together hmm. you might be confusing california with minnesota.
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Elder Postsman posted:hmm. you might be confusing california with minnesota. yes the state that's elected a senator who does colloidal silver, a pro wrestler as governor and another senator who died in a plane crash. yeah totally have it together. edit sorry, the colloidal silver guy was montana
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Beast of Bourbon posted:yes the state that's elected a senator who does colloidal silver, a pro wrestler as governor and another senator who died in a plane crash. p r o p 1 3
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Beast of Bourbon posted:yes the state that's elected a senator who does colloidal silver, a pro wrestler as governor and another senator who died in a plane crash. paul wellstone was a saint
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Marzzle posted:i mean i am sorta starting to turn in the direction of some "high performance" type of stuff in what i guess you'd call computational biology or bioinformatics or whatever since thats what my background is in and it seems like the fast stuff is usually in c++ but i sorta feel like being able to work with computers and biology at the same time might just be a pipe dream and the world only wanted people to grind out insurance or financial or whatever the usa is supposed to be doing software (presently 1099 stuff like uber just literally creating jobs so horrible you have to "long tail" the labor force to eke a profit and skirt the oppressive minimum wage and obama care laws that keep you from making poors take out loans to finance your poo poo company) if you want to do compbio find a lab at your uni doing compbio and beg for a student job / volunteer career-track its not required to be a phd but it helps
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uncurable mlady posted:good managers are actually useful and cool its a shame they barely exist
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California gave us Reagan, and for that, we will never, ever forgive you.
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all states that require majorities larger than 50% plus 1 to pass tax increases are hosed all states that have "balanced budget" requirements are hosed all states that passed the TABOR "taxpayer bill of rights" model laws in whole or in part are hosed all states that require excess tax income to be immediately rebated instead of being saved for future contingencies are hosed all states that have prop 13 or prop 13-alikes are hosed
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Jonny 290 posted:California gave us Reagan, and for that, we will never, ever forgive you. also nixon, who in comparison to reagan looks pretty loving good
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Nintendo Kid posted:all states are hosed
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Beast of Bourbon posted:hey i'm gonna be there on thursday if you want to grab some lunch I'm on vacation, but I'll come in. sold! (I'll even go to the sweet shop if you ask nicely.) uncurable mlady posted:how's that work out for you guys, because that's the first thing i've ever read about facebook that puts a mark in the 'positive' column it works very well, IMO. I've had probably a third of the manager-thinking people I've directed to that training bounce because they realized that they weren't that into the mechanics of management, which is itself a success. mostly though I like that it signals that we expect managers (and the company) to invest in being great managers, and that we'll evaluate them accordingly. at the risk of overshare: I hosed up a reorg of my ~120 person group embarrassingly one half, and it disrupted the teams involved a fair bit, and so I got the "-1" rating that half; reduced bonus/raise/equity (which everyone gets), several talks about how I was going to improve, etc.. managing is real work at FB, and not just taking credit for others' stuff. I've been tempted at times to go back to being an IC, because having all my impact be indirect can be exhausting honestly.
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PCjr sidecar posted:also nixon, who in comparison to reagan looks pretty loving good HST's Nixon eulogy should be chiseled into the front steps of the White House as a warning to the others, but Reagan was pretty close to the Devil in a suit
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Nintendo Kid posted:all states are hosed
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Nintendo Kid posted:as long as prop 13 remains in force california does not have its poo poo together, by definition relative to the other states, i mean.
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all states are bad, just go to a less bad one.
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california is great the pilot on my heater has been out for years and idgaf because i live in a habitable clime
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duTrieux. posted:california is great lmfao you idiot
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regan wanted to make an orbial death ray so he's okay in my book
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duTrieux. posted:relative to the other states, i mean. new jersey, new york, masschusetts, minnesota and vermont all have their poo poo together better than california. i mean yeah california has their poo poo better together than florida or texas but that's not an accomplishment
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duTrieux. posted:the pilot on my heater has been out for years lol, this explains your posting
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