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EightBit posted:gently caress me it's real: I have that exact filter tool and it is hands-down the best kind I've ever used. Until my co-worker broke it.
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Slavvy posted:I have that exact filter tool and it is hands-down the best kind I've ever used. Until my co-worker broke it. One advantage to buying the Craftsman one over the HF one is the lifetime warranty.
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Mar 25, 2015 07:46
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EightBit posted:It can be flipped, and you shouln't put an impact wrench anywhere near an oil filter. Look at the one geirskogul linked - it can only tighten. It's a nightmare made flesh.
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Mar 25, 2015 07:57
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Raluek posted:One advantage to buying the Craftsman one over the HF one is the lifetime warranty. I got blue-point because I'm stupid.
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Mar 25, 2015 08:26
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Mar 25, 2015 13:59
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I've worked in tech support - where we're supposed to pretend that the customer is an all-knowing, all-doing saint who is incapable of mistake, japery, or even loving up - for too long. Did you at least get to tell him that he left the plastic on?
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Mar 25, 2015 14:13
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Pulling a quote from the kid that bought a 25 year old nissan and didnt listen to an internet forum. I think you need to replace the battery cable.
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Mar 25, 2015 14:14
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Slavvy posted:I have that exact filter tool and it is hands-down the best kind I've ever used. Until my co-worker broke it. I've got the Craftsman one as well. Though I can't say I've come across a filter so tight I've ever considered the impact gun. I have definitely crushed and shredded a filter can with it though. gently caress Jiffy Lube.
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Mar 25, 2015 15:57
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What vehicles have enough space to fit an impact gun to get the filters? Anything I've had except my ghia (which had a 3rd party filter system to bypass the innefective screen) is hard to get a hand or rachet up there.
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Mar 25, 2015 16:27
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Anything with a vertically mounted filter. GM trucks, a lot of ford vehicles. Mostly US domestics and a few european designs. Also Subarus.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:06
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MRC48B posted:Anything with a vertically mounted filter. GM trucks, All wet-sump Chevy/post-BOP GM V8s, IIRC, Corvette included.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:09
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I missed the plastic cap at first and was like "I guess dirty leads?"
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Mar 25, 2015 18:00
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tater_salad posted:What vehicles have enough space to fit an impact gun to get the filters? Anything I've had except my ghia (which had a 3rd party filter system to bypass the innefective screen) is hard to get a hand or rachet up there. Vertical filters on Nissan Sentra (2013 on) and Juke. Also my Volvo v40.
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Mar 26, 2015 03:55
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tater_salad posted:What vehicles have enough space to fit an impact gun to get the filters? Anything I've had except my ghia (which had a 3rd party filter system to bypass the innefective screen) is hard to get a hand or rachet up there. Most bikes with an external filter.
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Mar 26, 2015 08:08
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Splizwarf posted:Vertical filters on Nissan Sentra (2013 on) and Juke. Also my Volvo v40. Subaru puts their filters right on top now, its pretty wonderful, especially coming from a car where I had to reach through the wheel well and spill all over the control arm every time.
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Mar 26, 2015 12:06
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Why don't more cars use drop in filters like the TDI? Seems like the easiest way to do oil changes. Cost?
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Mar 26, 2015 15:46
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I don't see how a drop in filter is any more convenient than a regular canister filter on the top of the engine. The nice thing about a canister filter is the whole thing is disposable. If you have to manhandle it to get it off for some reason, there's no problem.
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Mar 26, 2015 15:54
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More cars are. Newer gm and Toyota motors use them. Can't speak for vehicle manufacturing costs, but the filters themselves are cheaper and easier to recycle.
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I hate cartridge style filters. They usually have a brittle plastic housing that breaks with the slightest provocation. The previous tech put it on way too tight and now you have to get it off without breaking it, have fun. And when you do break one it's a disaster and you have to go drive to a dealer to get a new housing or something because the customer is sitting in the waiting room ... Give me a good old canister. That way when it's stuck I can do whatever it takes to get the thing off, and who cares.
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As a former lube tech I completely agree. If I have to use a pipe wrench on a metal filter I can. If your 10 year old FRP oil filter canister shatters into a cloud of black dust and chunks, not only do I have to go get another one at the dealer, it costs the shop money. Plus there's usually like fifteen loving O-rings on the housing that are in varying stages of decay, and come with the new filter in a poly bag, unless it fell out of the box in shipment. And the filter's always on top facing down into the engine, so if you drop a fragment of grime or broken filter housing in, you have a 50/25/25 chance of it getting caught by the new filter, going into the bearings, or damaging an O-ring/keeping the filter housing from seating if it gets in the wrong spot. Hell with that noise, put a tin can filter on the underside of the motor with the flange facing downward. Worst case, ram a screwdriver through it, spin it off, spin the new one on, all the garbage you spread around while brutalizing the old filter and removing it fell away from the flange because of gravity. Done. Oh and the assholes who hide the filter in an impossible to reach place, or make it incredibly painful to turn due to mounting angle, can go to hell too. I'm looking at you, Windstars, 2.0L VWs (with that airdam that gets in the way), V8 RWD Lexuses, and Subarus with the filter hidden behind a gauntlet of catalytic converters and exhaust heatshields. It's not a thermal exhaust port, you don't have to hide it so bad it takes a Jedi to get at the loving thing. Holy poo poo.
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Mar 26, 2015 16:45
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gently caress you Toyota for putting the oil filter underneath the exhaust headers, in a position that you need double elbows to reach.
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Mar 26, 2015 16:59
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kastein posted:It's not a thermal exhaust port, you don't have to hide it so bad it takes a Jedi to get at the loving thing. Holy poo poo. I call the Subaru ones in the y-pipe area the "ring of fire."
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Mar 26, 2015 17:04
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Lowly mechanics just can't appreciate the artistry behind the engineer's design. That filter is not inaccessible because management demanded saving five dollars in parts, it's inaccessible because it's a statement about the futility of man's struggles. You should feel proud when it's been replaced because you've become part of the narrative, accomplishing great works that were thought impossible.
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Mar 26, 2015 17:12
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I liked the drop in canister for my wifes ca viler. I didn't like the fact it was a black nut just chilling there and no indication that it was an oil filter.
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It took me a bit to figure out where the filter was for that exact reason - I'm guessing your wife's Cavalier is new enough to have an Ecotec. But now that I know where it is, oil changes are a piece of cake. And you can order filters that have a new cap included - something I plan to do for my next oil change since mine is pushing 10 years old. I kind of like being able to see just how much poo poo got trapped in the filter, though I've noticed that if you remove it while the engine is still warm, a lot of that crap just pours off of the filter.
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xzzy posted:Lowly mechanics just can't appreciate the artistry behind the engineer's design. That filter is not inaccessible because management demanded saving five dollars in parts, it's inaccessible because it's a statement about the futility of man's struggles. The other way that impossible poo poo gets designed is because the guy designing the engine puts it somewhere great, then they decide to jam the whole thing in a different car and it becomes a game of "how can we make this hosed situation the least hosed" AKA screw around with things in CAD redesigning accessory/mount brackets (because they're the cheapest things to make different for each model the engine goes in) until no two parts occupy the same physical space and you can somehow get at all the fasteners, maybe, when it's on the assembly line. Then someone brilliant decides to put another feature on a couple years later and it gets shoehorned in with great difficulty, obscuring everything else that everyone worked so hard to make almost-accessible at product introduction.
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Collateral Damage posted:gently caress you Toyota for putting the oil filter underneath the exhaust headers, in a position that you need double elbows to reach. This was the worst thing about my aw11 mr2's. oil filter surrounded by headers with almost no clearance against the front firewall. Good luck getting any sort of filter wrench in there if you had one of the bigger filters on.
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The drop in filters on Toyotas/Lexi are actually pretty good in my opinion. At least the vertically mounted ones are. The horizontal mount on some of the Prius models is stupid. Anyway: -Cast aluminum cap hard to break or cross thread if you are not a complete idiot. Doesn't become brittle with age. - Multiple ways of putting torque to it to unscrew. Octagonal on the end, ears with a proper cup, band wrench with a shop rag or strap wrench works too. -seals with an oring, not threads putting compression on a gasket. Hand tight until it seats and you are set. -if you are not in a hurry (lol) the plastic bit in the filter kit can be used to drain the housing for less mess.
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some texas redneck posted:It took me a bit to figure out where the filter was for that exact reason - I'm guessing your wife's Cavalier is new enough to have an Ecotec. Now do it on a Cobalt SS/SC. 
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Geirskogul posted:I call the Subaru ones in the y-pipe area the "ring of fire." That's was the name at the Subaru dealership too. I always hated when one of those come in with 110 degree weather. Everytime I saw one I would sing johnny cashs ring of fire.
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Fucknag posted:Now do it on a Cobalt SS/SC. Everything got 
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Battery on the Delta is a piece of cake, as long as the car isn't owned by a hoarder that keeps half their belongings in the trunk. Also makes wiring up an amp super easy, and the battery lasts a crazy amount of time since it's away from the heat (I'm still on the original on my car, with a build date of 6/05).
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some texas redneck posted:Battery on the Delta is a piece of cake, as long as the car isn't owned by a hoarder that keeps half their belongings in the trunk. HAHAHA. "About 2 hours" to replace a battery. http://www.kappaperformance.com/forum/index.php?topic=10521.0 e: for the lay, its in the loving passenger fender well and you have to remove a wheel and fender well. Because there's no room in the kappa trunk. Ask me about driving my brother and myself to highschool with our baseball/tennis equipment and bookbags in the car while still able to put the top down. I can pack like a motherfucker. e2: the kappa, itself, is a horrible mechanical failure. 
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I thought the Kappa was GM, not a Chrysler Sebring.  It's hard to call a RWD subcompact a terrible mechanical failure (even if it is GM), but it sure looks like a pain to work on. That has to be the only time I've seen an Ecotec in RWD form though.
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SuperDucky posted:HAHAHA. "About 2 hours" to replace a battery. For some reason I always thought those cars were RMR until now. Also cutting out the fender wall to take the battery out was a regular thing for Chryslers in the junkyard I worked at. It's pretty bad when that's the fastest method of removal.
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chrisgt posted:I hate cartridge style filters. They usually have a brittle plastic housing that breaks with the slightest provocation. The previous tech put it on way too tight and now you have to get it off without breaking it, have fun. And when you do break one it's a disaster and you have to go drive to a dealer to get a new housing or something because the customer is sitting in the waiting room ... My 327 has a cartridge filter. The housing is steel and weighs about 5 lbs...it's probably about 5" diameter.  Edit: Changing the oil on a Pentastar is hilariously easy. I can reach under my Jeep and get the drain plug out, then the cartridge filter is right on top of the engine next to the filler tube. It takes me longer to remember which wrench I need (24mm for the filter and something else for the drain).
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Fucknag posted:Now do it on a Cobalt SS/SC. I have a couple of rib-shaped burn scars on my arm from the supercharger on one of those things. It's been two hours, surely it's cooled off enough by now, right? No.
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The 2.0L SPI in the Ford Escort was the most hateful I've encountered. Fish your hand through a thick forest of sharp rusty metal brackets and hot manifold to find the prize.
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What's going on with the differential housing on that? Did they have some kind of hybrid RWD transmission with a transaxle or did GM just decide that everything in that car had to be ludicrously over-engineered?
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Just spitballing, but it looks similar to a CTS-V rear diff that I've seen.
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