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Anyone have a favorite rule system for the thirty years war? Thoughts on Pike and Shotte? How about favorite miniature lines for that era in the 28mm scale or smaller?
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Mar 25, 2015 03:43
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Colonial Air Force posted:Capitalizing all Nouns is historically accurate. I know the Germans do it, but all throughout the Kickstarter the people-nouns were capitalized so I just assumed that was a Polish thing. Though yeah, it would probably have been a Polish thing 400 years ago too.
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Mar 25, 2015 03:59
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By "people nouns" do you mean pronouns? Because then it'd be weird alright. Unless you just mean proper nouns, in which case they did it right.
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Mar 25, 2015 04:13
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I mean any time a noun refers to a Person. Like You, the Reader right now. I don't think English has a term for it.
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Mar 25, 2015 04:18
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That is a Polish thing, so 50/50 on period speech/bad translation. If it persists in non-historical chapters (rules etc.) it's probably the latter.
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Mar 25, 2015 04:22
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moths posted:I mean any time a noun refers to a Person. Like You, the Reader right now. I don't think English has a term for it.
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Mar 25, 2015 06:02
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nesbit37 posted:Anyone have a favorite rule system for the thirty years war? Thoughts on Pike and Shotte? How about favorite miniature lines for that era in the 28mm scale or smaller? I'm no expert on the period as I'm only just getting into it (despite owning Pike ad Shotte since release). I getting my first game in of it this weekend so can report back. I however have played lots of Black Powder and Hail Caesar so I'm very familiar with the core mechanic which is why I've chosen to go for Pike and Shotte: it just makes it easier than learning a whole new rule set. I have read a few criticsms of Pike and Shotte from some quarters. Main criticsm seems to be that the rules treat a regiment of pike and its shot wings as separate units. Personally I don't see a major issue with this as the core mechanics such as supporting stands, command mechanics, hedgehog charge reactions etc ensure that in order for your pike and shot units to work effectively you need to keep them within 3 inches and effectively working as 1 anyway. Only downside I can see from this is in theory each unit could rout independently of the other but I'm unsure how ahistorical that is, not bring an expert. Like the rest of the Black Powder series the authors encourage you to tweak or house rule so I'm sure if it really worried you, you could make a fix. Figure wise the most obvious is Warlord Games range for 28mm. They do loads of good value box sets and starter kits with rules bundles etc. Personally I favour smaller scale minis for large battles and 30YW is well catered for. 6 mm there's a decent range from Baccus minis, 10mm Pendraken and Magister Militum, 15mm too many to mention ( Essex, Peter Pig, Minifigs, Old Glory and Khurasan, especially if you are in the USA).
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Mar 25, 2015 08:03
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Slitherines pc/ipad Pike and Shot uses the field of glory rennaissance ruleset, and I've been having a lot of fun with it.
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Mar 25, 2015 15:17
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Speaking of pikes and guns, does anyone have experience of the Italian wars? I might help paint up a small regiment or two at the club, and I'd love to find some good reference photos for infantrymen.
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Mar 25, 2015 15:27
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Serotonin posted:I have read a few criticsms of Pike and Shotte from some quarters. Main criticsm seems to be that the rules treat a regiment of pike and its shot wings as separate units. Personally I don't see a major issue with this as the core mechanics such as supporting stands, command mechanics, hedgehog charge reactions etc ensure that in order for your pike and shot units to work effectively you need to keep them within 3 inches and effectively working as 1 anyway. Only downside I can see from this is in theory each unit could rout independently of the other but I'm unsure how ahistorical that is, not bring an expert.
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Mar 25, 2015 15:33
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Well Pike and Shotte does use these rules. Shot units can fall back as a charge reaction into the pike blocks (if they pass a command test ) It's called a hedgehog. It's a similar in game mechanic as for Napoleonics and forming square.
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Mar 25, 2015 15:39
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Dirt Worshipper posted:Slitherines pc/ipad Pike and Shot uses the field of glory rennaissance ruleset, and I've been having a lot of fun with it. Yeah that's another choice. I find FoG super rules heavy though, but that's just me and my taste. I had no idea Slitherine had a uPad app of Pike and Shot. Going to have to check it out. I love their WW2 games on the iPad. Serotonin fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Mar 25, 2015 |
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Mar 25, 2015 15:40
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lilljonas posted:Speaking of pikes and guns, does anyone have experience of the Italian wars? I might help paint up a small regiment or two at the club, and I'd love to find some good reference photos for infantrymen. I think the April for WGI has a big article on 1500's infantry if I'm not mistaken. http://www.stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/ http://www.paintinglandsknechts.blogspot.co.uk/ Are good blogs, the first guy brings up reference materials in many of his posts.
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Mar 25, 2015 15:41
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Serotonin posted:Well Pike and Shotte does use these rules. Shot units can fall back as a charge reaction into the pike blocks (if they pass a command test ) It's called a hedgehog. It's a similar in game mechanic as for Napoleonics and forming square.
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Mar 25, 2015 15:58
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Oh right I get you. Most Pike and shot era rules seem to separate out the pike and shot in very distinct formations even if the rules treat them as one unit or not. It's an abstraction I guess. I think Polemos 6mm rules have pike and shot based on 1 stand and treat them as one. Makes sense at that scale Although saying that looking at these old pics of the battles of the ECW showing deployments I have in some Osprey books, the pike block is very distinct from its two flanking lines of shot. Dutch style I think it's called. Maybe for earlier styles or later ones, it might be different. Also ECW, especially at the start was mostly non pro soldiers led by enthusiastic amateurs. Serotonin fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Mar 25, 2015 |
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Mar 25, 2015 16:09
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Does 1/48 scale work for 28mm when it comes to vehicles? A local model shop has a super discounted used section and I wouldn't mind grabbing the 1/48 Thunderbolt kit they have there and turning it into a bit of terrain. I was thinking of doing something along the lines of it being ditched into a field or something.
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Mar 25, 2015 23:09
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It's too big for 28mm in my opinion. Works fine for 40k figures though
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Mar 25, 2015 23:11
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1/56 is a lot closer to 28mm, but 1/48 has a lot more options. For example, you're never going to find 1/56 Japanese WW2 era construction equipment - but there's a bulldozer teasing me every time I go into my local model shop.
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Mar 25, 2015 23:18
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Serotonin posted:It's too big for 28mm in my opinion. Works fine for 40k figures though I'm in the other camp, I use 1/48 exclusively for my warlord games germans. Plastic kits look so much better than resin and are more fun to make, and there are so few available in 28mm or 1/56 (though they are slowly increasing). IMHO the important thing is to not mix scales, such as two pz II with one in each scale.
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Mar 26, 2015 10:28
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Agreedo, either is fine so long as you stick with one.
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Mar 26, 2015 17:29
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So I'm putting together a 2nd ID Rifle Company list from Devil's Charge, going for a LW Tournament list, 1900 points. Right now I've got the following: Company HQ, 15 Rifle Platoon w/ Bazookas, 215 Rifle Platoon w/ Bazookas, 215 Rifle Platoon w/ Bazookas, 215 MG Platoon, 130 I&R Platoon, 85 Tank Platoon w/ 4 M4A3(76)s, 555 TD Platoon w/ 2 M36s, 265 Field Artillery Battery w/ 4 105s, 185. I'm very new to the game, so I'm not sure if I've got too much overlappign stuff or if I've left out something critical. I know I don't have ant AA or Air Support, will I be laughed out of the game shop with this list?
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Mar 26, 2015 22:47
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Beardless posted:I'm very new to the game, so I'm not sure if I've got too much overlappign stuff or if I've left out something critical. I know I don't have ant AA or Air Support, will I be laughed out of the game shop with this list? One thing to keep in mind is that when running infantry, especially American infantry, is that you don't have to fight tanks with tanks. Drop artillery on them then drop smoke on them, wait for them to go for the assault and win there. TLDR: Infantry beats Tanks in the deployment phase. To that end what I would do is downgrade the Shermans to 3 regular shermans and a jumbo (if this is an option) and drop the M36's in favor of towed guns and if you can a battery of at least 2 155 guns for combined bombardment purposes. If its an open tournament (you will face other Allied lists) then some AA would be a good bet to bring you up to 9 platoons.
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Mar 27, 2015 01:10
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I put together some thoughts on the Bolt Action tournies at AdeptiCon. I had a ton of fun. Lots of sweet paint and boards. Also the first time I put my Slovak Rapid Division on the board  http://freshcoastgaming.blogspot.com/2015/03/adepticon-after-action-review-bolt.html?m=1
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Mar 28, 2015 01:39
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I would love to play boltaction. But no-one plays it around here. 
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Mar 28, 2015 02:10
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DJ Dizzy posted:I would love to play boltaction. But no-one plays it around here. I'm in an unusual spot in that I'm suddenly in a group that is historically skewed enough that we're looking at people wanting to play WW2, Italian Wars, Sengoku period Japan, and Napoleonics war this year. And we're enough people that we don't have to decide on just one period, but can get working on several at the same time.
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Mar 28, 2015 15:15
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De-cluttering my flat. First lot of stuff is up, including some out of print historicals. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3709463
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Mar 28, 2015 18:01
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So here's a quick update re: my foray into WW2-era wargaming via Bolt Action, over the past few weeks. "OK, I'll grab a box of Wargames Factory Soviet Red Army dudes. It's pretty cheap and it'll allow me to decide whether I like this army or not." "Oh hey, Plastic Soldier Company do 28mm Russians as well. I see they have some heavy weapons and anti-tank guns and such. I'll grab the anti-tank gun box, that's pretty cheap also." "Oh man, I'm gonna need some heavy weapons for my Russians, too. Better get that PSC heavy weapons box this payday." "Oh, a Warlord Games T-34/76 for pretty cheap as well? Heck, why not." "Better grab these PSC infantry dudes, too. 57 of 'em in a box, after all. Just to bulk up my army a wee bit more..." "...what's this? Black Tree Design has a sale for 25% off their metal Soviet infantry figures? And they sent me a $5 coupon off recently, too? Welp, better grab a 10-man squad and some LMG guys. You know, just to bulk the army up just that little bit more." Help me 
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Mar 30, 2015 07:59
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Sydney Bottocks posted:So here's a quick update re: my foray into WW2-era wargaming via Bolt Action, over the past few weeks. The step from one platoon to a company is deceptively small with all the plastics available these days. I think our club bought and painted up roughly two Soviet companies, one German company and much of an Italian company over this autumn and winter, and that's not counting tank and support. If we count unpainted there's at least two more companies in there.
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Mar 30, 2015 08:11
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lilljonas posted:The step from one platoon to a company is deceptively small with all the plastics available these days. I think our club bought and painted up roughly two Soviet companies, one German company and much of an Italian company over this autumn and winter, and that's not counting tank and support. It's fun (and a little frightening  ), I haven't been this excited about a game since my WH40K days. I think there's probably a small part of me that's indulging my "always wanted a massive Imperial Guard army" side with the Soviet Red Army here. Except that it's not nearly as expensive. 
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Mar 30, 2015 08:38
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Sydney Bottocks posted:It's fun (and a little frightening The worst part is when you go "oh, I already have a company of infantry, so there's no way I'll ever ever need more, but these are Kriegsmarine infantry wearing u-boat caps! Come on!". Needless to say, our Soviet players are currently busy painting up a crap-ton of cavalry now that they have a sea of infantrymen.
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Mar 30, 2015 08:45
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I did a bunch of things at Gary Con this past weekend but one I wanted to share with this thread was some photos of playing a game of Cavaliers and Roundheads on an old school sand table with the game's co-author Jeff Perren (who also wrote Chainmail). The organizer of the game just assembled the mini's for the scenario a couple days before the game so no time to paint them which was a shame, but still fun.   
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Mar 30, 2015 16:05
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Those are some really cool figs on a really cool playing surface.
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Mar 30, 2015 16:40
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I posted over in thePainting thread, but no bites, so I might have more luck here: I've got a factory sealed box each of the FoW Soviet and Polish paint sets. If anyone wants them, I'll let them go for $25 for both plus shipping (I'm in the US.) I don't play FoW, so they're pretty much useless to me. Shoot me a PM.
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Mar 30, 2015 18:13
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I don't know what this hobby is any more I am very aware of the date it was posted
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Apr 2, 2015 06:54
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No Pun Intended posted:I don't know what this hobby is any more I would unironically watch that.
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Apr 2, 2015 07:15
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Yeah I mean we're already reading a forum about it. Watching a show would actually be less dorky.
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Apr 2, 2015 21:11
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For flames of war, is it possible to make a decent mid war armored panzergrenadier force incorporating panthers or panzer IVs? And if so, which book do I need to scrounge up?
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Apr 14, 2015 09:37
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DJ Dizzy posted:For flames of war, is it possible to make a decent mid war armored panzergrenadier force incorporating panthers or panzer IVs? And if so, which book do I need to scrounge up? Eastern Front is all the mid war German Armor lists, including minor axis powers armor.
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Apr 14, 2015 10:30
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Eastern Front is all the mid war German Armor lists, including minor axis powers armor. Yeah, but North Africa is all about that DAK (and Italians). Though I don't think there are Panthers in North Africa.
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Apr 14, 2015 14:58
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I am a dummy and meant to post this here, not the thread that expressly says no historicals. No! Why? Why did they do it?      Zombies are so over, why would they do this? It's not like I can't find half a dozen other model companies to supply me with models for this already, and why would want fantasy crap like this in my historical game? (OK pseudo-historical, but the point stands.) What's next, Cthulhu? E: Yes they are White Walkers, but I still don't care.
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