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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Oklahoma stuff Even in DC (you're from there, if I recall correctly), any establishment that sells alcohol cannot also sell/give you a cup of ice. Try asking for a cup of ice from the Starbucks inside your local grocery store some time. quote:§ 25–741. Go-cups and back-up drinks prohibited. VV edited in the quote VV AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Mar 25, 2015 |
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Even in DC (you're from there, if I recall correctly), any establishment that sells alcohol cannot also sell/give you a cup of ice. If you're talking to me, I'm in Buffalo. The only thing we can't get is Everclear (although there is some 192 proof swill we can buy instead - the rationale is that the people that make Everclear refuse to say you can drink it straight, so it's unfit for consumption as-sold. This other crap's manufacturer was willing to claim you can do shots of it). We can even buy liquor on Sundays! KillHour fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Mar 25, 2015 |
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Mar 25, 2015 22:00
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KillHour posted:If you're talking to me, I'm in Buffalo. The only thing we can't get is Everclear (although there is some 192 proof swill we can buy instead - the rationale is that the people that make Everclear refuse to say you can drink it straight, so it's unfit for consumption as-sold. This other crap's manufacturer was willing to claim you can do shots of it). In Texas, the cutoff to buy beer and wine is midnight... but the cutoff to buy port, sherry, or madeira is 9pm. Again I can vaguely see what they're getting at, if your state has a liquor vs non-liquor distinction you have to draw that arbitrary line somewhere. But somehow port/sherry/madeira are in this gray zone where they can be sold in grocery stores (unlike vodka) but get cut off at 9pm on weeknights and I think entirely on Sundays (unlike say beer or a pinot noir). Apparently port-fueled rampages were an issue of ongoing concern at some point in Texas regulatory history.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:even if Ohio has a cannabis cartel so long as it comes with decrim who cares, they'll have a hell of a time competing with the national marijuana industry Here's the thing, Ohio already has decrim. The punishment for having up to three ounces is a 150 dollar fine. Paraphernalia too. There's no massive wound to stop the bleeding on, it's (mainly, getting rid of the ticket will be nice too no doubt) about legalizing the bulk supply side and the best way to do so. http://norml.org/laws/item/ohio-penalties-2 Edited: a lot Babby Formed fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Mar 25, 2015 |
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Mar 25, 2015 23:00
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DC's seed share goes on tomorrow: Based on past trends, I imagine there will be a buttload of media attending this. Looking forward to seeing how it gets covered in the news, banal as it is.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:[...] We have a similar situation brewing here in Arizona. MPP is drawing up a proposition for the 2016 ballot. Rumor is that some of the established medical dispensaries have paid off the MPP to ensure such a monopoly in Arizona. We have yet to see the final wording, but individual growing rights are a major concern among the local activists. Many of them are seriously on the warpath against these deep pocketed interests. Some are urging a "NO" vote in the event there are no growing rights in the proposition for ordinary consumers. Things may get very interesting here very shortly.
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Slipknot Hoagie posted:put a cap on potencies 
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Mar 26, 2015 02:43
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We've all been posting here long enough to realize PryorOnFire is trolling, right? He posted here about a month ago saying legalization was the worst because it smells sometimes outside.
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Isn't part of Kevin Sabet's thing that he doesn't necessarily hate marijuana, but that he hates the potential "Big Marijuana" that will come with weed legalization? He should be going to Ohio right now and helping the non-cartel side of the legalization movement there.
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Matey posted:Isn't part of Kevin Sabet's thing that he doesn't necessarily hate marijuana, but that he hates the potential "Big Marijuana" that will come with weed legalization? He should be going to Ohio right now and helping the non-cartel side of the legalization movement there. Kevin Sabet's thing is he's a shitlord who uses "Big Marijuana" as a strawman to push his prohibitionist agenda.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Also, last time I was there Oklahoma had this law where a liquor store could sell only alcohol. No smokes, no Solo cups, no horoscope scrolls, nothing but alcohol. So all over OKC you'd see strip mall storefront liquor stores, and infallibly next to it a "Party Store" that's a tiny place that sells cups, ice, tonic water, etc.
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Matey posted:Isn't part of Kevin Sabet's thing that he doesn't necessarily hate marijuana, but that he hates the potential "Big Marijuana" that will come with weed legalization? He should be going to Ohio right now and helping the non-cartel side of the legalization movement there. https://twitter.com/bruvs/status/580832515302162432 Sabet is a joke. He refuses to say what he's in favor of and won't seriously engage with anyone that criticizes him. He will, however, happily accept your thousands of dollars to give a speech about how scary weed is.
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quote:“It’s [marijuana industry] all so misleading, and there’s a lot of trickery going on because there are big money and politics in this and not enough people standing up to do the right thing because they’re afraid of losing something — like money, power, privilege or image,” Kaleb said. “I compare it to Big Tobacco and bogus 1950s ads pushing everyone to smoke cigarettes — you know, as an expression of personal freedom and with a mythical 9 out of 10 doctors saying it’s all right. Only this time, it’s not just a buzz from some nicotine we’re talking about. Weed is a psychoactive, mind-altering substance. It is addictive. And I don’t care what anyone says; it is being marketed to kids.” Does anyone know a 19 year old who talks like this? Sounds more like Kaleb is in-fact Kevin.
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KingEup posted:Does anyone know a 19 year old who talks like this? Or he's parroting what his substance abuse counselors have been telling him with some editorial discretion used on phrasing and context.
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Mar 26, 2015 14:36
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Countdown to  Looks like some graduate from Oral Roberts University offed himself after taking five edible doses while visiting Colorado.
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Concern trolling huh. quote:According to CBS4, Fowler said that several hours later, Goodman became “jittery” then incoherent and talking nonsensically. What a harmless product, completely incomparable to alcohol. Hopefully we can get an injunction against edibles and concentrated THC products.
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Slipknot Hoagie posted:Concern trolling huh. You are saying no one has ever offed themselves after drinking too much whiskey or other concentrated Ethanol products?
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Actually nevermind I'm wrong.
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Slipknot Hoagie posted:Concern trolling huh. After, therefore because of.
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Slipknot Hoagie posted:What a harmless product, completely incomparable to alcohol. Hopefully we can get an injunction against edibles and concentrated THC products. What are label directions for? Just go chug a 1000-count bottle of an NSAID and wash it down with a bottle of scotch - they wouldn't be available in such large quantities if there was any chance you could harm yourself by misusing them! Chalets the Baka posted:Go gently caress yourself
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Slipknot Hoagie posted:What a harmless product, completely incomparable to alcohol. Yes, absolutely. quote:Hopefully we can get an injunction against edibles and concentrated THC products. Wait did you shift to sarcasm? Because this is incorrect and ridiculous. For god's sake I never imagined people would take up the anti-pot crusade.
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it's unsafe to hand a gun to someone overdosing on thc and many hours away from coming back to reality? you don't say? sounds like neither him or his friends thought this through at all. I've never heard anyone claim that overdosing on thc won't cause you to temporarily lose your mind, as that's a well-known fact - the claim is simply that the drug doesn't cause fatalities by itself. this guy would have been fine if he was with someone who gave a poo poo about the fact that he was in the twilight zone and most likely terrified with a loaded gun in his back pocket. too bad
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Gimp Fack posted:I've never heard anyone claim that overdosing on thc won't cause you to temporarily lose your mind, as that's a well-known fact
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taqueso posted:I've never heard that before, but since it is so well known, I'm sure you can find a source easily. Very large amounts of thc lower the threshold for temporary psychosis, especially for people with low tolerance of thc, and goes away with the high. It's pretty well documented, and I remember experiencing it myself when I was new to mmj edibles. It definitely happens to some people and it most definitely is not life-threatening, if you think I'm claiming that. e: i am not claiming to be an expert on this, but if you're claiming that oding on edibles will never trigger some negative effects, then neither are you Scrotum Modem fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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Mar 26, 2015 20:41
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Gimp Fack posted:Very large amounts of thc lower the threshold for temporary psychosis, especially for people with low tolerance of thc, and goes away with the high. It's pretty well documented, and I remember experiencing it myself when I was new to mmj edibles. It definitely happens to some people and it most definitely is not life-threatening, if you think I'm claiming that.
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Not to mention, wasn't the dude violating all sorts of laws by being in possession of a firearm and marijuana at the same time, and using a firearm while intoxicated? How stupid do you have to be to mix deadly weapons and psychoactive substances?
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Gimp Fack posted:Very large amounts of thc lower the threshold for temporary psychosis, especially for people with low tolerance of thc, and goes away with the high. It's pretty well documented, and I remember experiencing it myself when I was new to mmj edibles. It definitely happens to some people and it most definitely is not life-threatening, if you think I'm claiming that. It's also linked to the THC/CBD composition of the strain, as THC is documented to cause psychotic symptoms but CBD is documented as helping calm or suppress them. Here, an NIH article that references both of those facts in the abstract! taqueso posted:I think we agree, actually, I just found the statement that I quoted from your previous post to be over-the-top. Thanks for clarifying your position. But it wasn't over-the-top. THC psychosis is a well-known fact, documented in medical literature.
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If it wasn't for easy access to weed that poor kid could have never blown his brains out.
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I may have misused the term overdose as I was referring to it as "using well over the recommended dose". ODing as in taking deadly amounts is something I don't see happening with marijuana.
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Internet Webguy posted:If it wasn't for easy access to weed that poor kid could have never blown his brains out. I know, right? I mean, his mom said so and we all know that everyone around someone who commits suicide always says they saw it coming for years! Gimp Fack posted:I may have misused the term overdose as I was referring to it as "using well over the recommended dose". ODing as in taking deadly amounts is something I don't see happening with marijuana. Eh, the "fatal" connotation of "overdose" is primarily a colloquial thing. I don't think it would be fair to fault you for using the term as it's properly defined.
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Pappyland posted:Countdown to What a dumb kid. He'd probably never done marijuana before and was too skeeved to smoke it. Serves him right for carrying a gun while doing drugs too. e: I would never, ever want access to a gun while doing any drug, even alcohol. How are u fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Not to mention, wasn't the dude violating all sorts of laws by being in possession of a firearm and marijuana at the same time, and using a firearm while intoxicated? How stupid do you have to be to mix deadly weapons and psychoactive substances? I don't think there is a law anywhere about that. Why would there be one?
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Powercrazy posted:I don't think there is a law anywhere about that. Why would there be one? I can't tell if you're joking or not. Currently under Federal law, users of any federally-illegal drug are prohibited possessors when it comes to firearms (as in, they're not allowed to own them, let alone carry them). A lot of states, Colorado included, have laws against being in close physical possession of a firearm while intoxicated.
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Not mixing drugs and guns is a very good rule whether it's alcohol or cannabis. EDIT: Not being an idiot about edibles is another rule quote:When the young men got back to Keystone, Fowler said they began ingesting the edible pot. He said his cousin favored some peach tart candies, each piece of candy containing 10 mg of the active ingredient in marijuana, the recommended dose for an adult consuming an edible. Elotana fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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So if you are drunk in your house in Colorado and you own a gun you are breaking the law? I assume a felony? Doesn't that seem like a problem? Surely there is a stipulation like "in a public place", or like Texas "in a place where alcohol is served." As far as federal law is concerned, you are already overtly violating it by consuming a schedule 1 substance, so the firearm isn't really that important. Elotana posted:Not mixing drugs and guns is a very good rule whether it's alcohol or cannabis. Agree. But there are a lot of good ideas that don't make you a felon for ignoring.
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I can see warning labels on edibles being a thing.
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Elotana posted:Also, this puts CO on a pace for about two deaths a year directly attributable to legal pot. My god...it's an epidemic. Mothers, hide your children! ^^^^^ e: Just picked up a bunch of edibles from Washington and there are warning labels -all- over them saying that it takes anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours for the effects to kick in, and be careful about overdosing. The labels are there, but do you expect your average college age male to give a flying gently caress?
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Powercrazy posted:So if you are drunk in your house in Colorado and you own a gun you are breaking the law? I assume a felony? Doesn't that seem like a problem? Surely there is a stipulation like "in a public place", or like Texas "in a place where alcohol is served." AFAIK it's not something commonly enforced, I've never really heard of anyone getting in trouble for it, but I'm sure it has happened. EDIT: And yes I do think it's a problem, along with the thousands of other laws that proscribe harsh and draconian punishments for relatively minor offenses. Welcome to the American criminal justice system  .
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You're not a real industry in America until you've caused a few deaths anyway. This just goes to help legitimize legal marijuana!
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Powercrazy posted:So if you are drunk in your house in Colorado and you own a gun you are breaking the law? I assume a felony? Doesn't that seem like a problem? Surely there is a stipulation like "in a public place", or like Texas "in a place where alcohol is served." quote:(d) The person has in his or her possession a firearm while the person is under the influence of intoxicating liquor or of a controlled substance, as defined in section 18-18-102 (5).
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