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Pierzak posted:So does Achilles, but according to popular opinion even buying him for N3 causes your Aleph to lose all games, and may also be linked to impotence and baldness. Bear Throne posted:Preview train keeps on going.
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^^^^ It will keep on going forever. Just like the hateboner for bolts. Pierzak posted:So does Achilles, but according to popular opinion even buying him for N3 causes your Aleph to lose all games, and may also be linked to impotence and baldness. Well... I fulfil one of those criteria already.
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Flipswitch posted:is that super whine thread still going? I kinda miss ARM6 PH16 Achilles, but to have a balanced ARM6 PH16 Achilles he'd either have to be like, 90 points or get Fury so he's forced to Leeroy Jenkins his way into danger, facetanking all the while. I've tried the current Achilles and he's not an invincible tank by any means but he can definitely tear his way through an entire enemy army if you don't try to charge down the middle. Also, is it just me or are MULTI Rifles now really good?
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Flipswitch posted:is that super whine thread still going? They needed another one for Atlanta though.
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MJ12 posted:Also, is it just me or are MULTI Rifles now really good? I'd still rather have a spitfire or HMG of course but for "free", yeah, MULTI is very good.
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That new Fueurbacher, and I just saw the scorpion-esque TAG. It's a good time to be Haqq.
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Does anyone know what the actual dimensions of the N3 silhouettes are? Ive been searching the net for them and cant find any specific numbers. I see I can print the templates but I want to laser cut some, which mean I need the dimensions. By pulling the PDF in illustrator and measuring I get S1 25x25 S2 25x40 S3 40x32 S4 55x32 S5 40x45 S6 40x55 S7 55x67 Does this sound right? LumberingTroll fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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The list is (courtesy of IJW), bit unsure on the S4 one, but there really, really should have been a list of this in the rulebook. S1 25x25 S2 25x40 S3 40x32 S4 40x40? S5 55x32 S6 40x60 S7 55x67 S8 70x70 MJ12 posted:I kinda miss ARM6 PH16 Achilles, but to have a balanced ARM6 PH16 Achilles he'd either have to be like, 90 points or get Fury so he's forced to Leeroy Jenkins his way into danger, facetanking all the while. I've tried the current Achilles and he's not an invincible tank by any means but he can definitely tear his way through an entire enemy army if you don't try to charge down the middle. Achilles abusers in N2 can go gently caress off, I had to put up with that oval office for years. He's still really, really drat good. Corbeau posted:They needed another one for Atlanta though.
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Flipswitch posted:The list is (courtesy of IJW), bit unsure on the S4 one, but there really, really should have been a list of this in the rulebook. If these are right then the ones in their printable pdf on the official website are way off.
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My buddy has the Customeeple(?) Silhouette set, next time I'm down playing I'll bust out a ruler and measure them and write it down. Either way I'm really unsure what the sizes are for making your own silhouette templates.
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Those seem like legit measurements to me I mean LT's measurements. I have a printed set. I'll measure them. WxH in mm S1 25x25 auxbots S2 25x40 regular troopers S3 40x32 small remotes S4 55x32 heavy remotes S5 40x45 big troopers S6 40x55 small tag S7 55x67 heavy tag So... Yes. Cyberpunkey Monkey fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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Mar 27, 2015 18:25
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To be fair to the whiners, Atlanta is overcosted.  Tuecer does the same thing better, and for less points.
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^^^: Teucer is undercosted New list to try out new stuff:  Combined Army────────────────────────────────────────────────── Group 1   10  0  0 CHARONTID Lieutenant (Multispectral Visor L3) HMG, Nanopulser / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 79) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (3) MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (23) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9) IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9) UNIDRON Plasma Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 24) UNIDRON (Forward Observer) Plasma Carbine / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (15) MALIGNOS Hacker (EI Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 41) SHROUDED (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (25) SHROUDED (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (25) UMBRA LEGATE Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Boarding Shotgun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 43) SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (3)4.5 SWC | 299 Points Open with Army 5 Possibly switching the PSR Unidron to a SMSR Haiduk to use all the FOs more effectively. (ed: and the weird arrangement is from Army5 loving up my order  )Flipswitch posted:The list is (courtesy of IJW), bit unsure on the S4 one, but there really, really should have been a list of this in the rulebook. Wrong, S4 is 55mm (bikes!) and 32mm high from the one I have sitting next to me also, S5 is 40mm and higher than wider (Sogarat!) so Troll's measurements are probably correct.
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Mar 27, 2015 21:19
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Spending SWC seems shockingly hard for vanilla CA. They're one of the ~3 factions that I've been looking at (the others being Nomads and Aleph) for our escalation league, and a lot of the good stuff doesn't actually use SWC.
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The SMSR is in the HS+CP weapons doc - the Guided mode is Dam 13, B1, DA, Anti-materiel, impact template (circular). If you spend all your SWC in vanilla CA, chances are that you've got a list with 3-5 Actual Fighting Things and then however many jackasses you can afford to stand around and support them. Maaaaaybe some FOs now that they're cheaper and we've got solid profiles in the Unidron. I've really been liking the Umbra Legate hacker in my games so far. That guy just does unbelievable amounts of work between cybermask shenanigans, buffing unidrons, murdering fools in objective rooms with his boarding shotgun, and being a specialist with a great movement split for getting poo poo done. The HRL Suryat has been surprising me lately, as well, but I've admittedly been playing against a lot of Tohaa lately. However, I'm not sure if the extra wound, PH, and defenses are worth it over the Gwailo, given that he's 17 points and .5 SWC more expensive. I've also found myself skipping my traditional smoke + MSV antics, but that's more a result of having new toys (Cheap unidrons! They keep coming up!) to play with and a desire to try new things than any overall dislike of the tactic. Doctor Worm has also been earning his weight in gold lately, last game I had him heal a Charontid from NWI to full and cap two terminals on Seize the Antennas in a single turn.
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stabbington posted:The SMSR is in the HS+CP weapons doc OK I'm a moron and also blind, disregard my previous post.
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I'm thinking of trying this list with a friend on a 150pts game. Both of us are pretty new, and keep in mind I only own the Icestorm pack + 3 alguaciles. Nomads────────────────────────────────────────────────── Group 1 7 0 0 ALGUACIL Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10) ALGUACIL Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18) ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10) ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10) GRENZER MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32) MOBILE BRIGADA MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (39) SPEKTR (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (32)3 SWC | 151 Points Open with Army 5 What do you guys think?
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I think that it's a good list as long as you don't play missions that require specialists. Go play it.
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I submit my meager skills to the thread.   I'm not rally happy with my painting so c&c is welcome.
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Feel like you could use some more shading (glazes, perhaps?) on your armor, but your eyes impress me. I still don't know how to make eyes consistently.
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Yeah your skills are fine, just push the contrast some more shade deeper, highlight lighter, it'll help a lot.
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Rules question, does Auto Medkit and/or Combat Jump trigger ARO?
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Yes, both of them do.
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Corbeau posted:Yes, both of them do. Thanks. I am planning a static board, it will be 2x2 foot sections that go together in a specific way, the clutter will be lose so that that part of it can be different every game. I need some opinions on layout.  Im planning to make some roofs accessible, and some upper floors will be enterable, nothing on lower floors will be accessible however. Im looking for feedback on the basic shape and layout from people who are more familiar with the game than i am. Thanks.
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My local store is beginning an escalation league, 100 points increasing by 100 points every 3 weeks up to 300. I have no idea how to build a list for this. My factions are JSA or Aleph (including Steel Phalanx). How does Aleph survive at 100 points? It seems if you want to take anything competent that isn't Dakini or Netrods you're spending 25+ points and have trouble going above 5-6 orders.
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I think at 100 points, most people are going to be pretty short on orders. Maybe a Thorakitai fireteam?
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Thorakitai? Otherwise, I think this would be effective at 100 points. Don't sniff at Flash Pulses on bots with mimetism. I just threw this together, but I'd totally play this list.  Aleph────────────────────────────────────────────────── Group 1 7 0 0 DEVA Lieutenant (G: Synchronized) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser+Devabot / Pistol, Knife. (27) DEVABOT Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (4) NETROD Electric Pulse. (4) NETROD Electric Pulse. (4) NETROD Electric Pulse. (4) PROXY Mk.1 Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18) LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (8) LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (8) PROXY Mk.2 MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24)2 SWC | 97 Points Open with Army 5 Cyberpunkey Monkey fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Mar 29, 2015 |
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I ran this list by my friendly local warcorr, and he gave his seal of approval for a basic, no tricks, solid play required list. Neoterran Capitaline Army────────────────────────────────────────────────── Group 1 10 0 0 SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) BOLT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24) BOLT Hacker (Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) BOLT Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (25) BOLT Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (22) BOLT Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (24) DEVA Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31) DEVA (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 33) AQUILA Lieutenant MULTI Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (58) GARUDA Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 30)6 SWC | 299 Points Open with Army 5
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My first thought is that I've taken a shine to the Bolts with a sniper because they already have a lot of threat at medium and close range. I don't think you'd want to find the points in that list, though. Also, the lack of Repeaters is worrying since you have doubled up on hackers... I approve of the Devas in NCA. I also approve of the Aquila with a Multi Rifle and he makes a tough Lt. Remember that the Garuda can also enter from the board edge, using the lower level of AD. I usually find that is preferable, since there isn't a roll and risk of dispersion. Cyberpunkey Monkey fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Mar 29, 2015 |
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I hadn't thought to use unlinked Thorakitai but I realise now ARM 3 guys with 360 visors will be super useful at low points. How's this? Aleph────────────────────────────────────────────────── Group 1 6 0 0 THAMYRIS Hacker (Hacking Device) Marker, Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) THORAKITES Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 22) THORAKITES Submachine gun, Chain Rifle, Flash Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (12) THORAKITES Submachine gun, Chain Rifle, Flash Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (12) DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (15) DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (13)2 SWC | 99 Points Open with Army 5 Has some firepower in a Spitfire, a few tough dudes and 2 specialists.
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No Lt. The lack of cheap Lt. options is what makes a 100 point Aleph so difficult.
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osirisisdead posted:No Lt. I knew I'd forgotten something. EDIT: This works (but I think I'd almost be better just running it as Steel Phalanx at this point) Aleph────────────────────────────────────────────────── Group 1 6 0 0 ALKĘ Lieutenant Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 26) THAMYRIS Hacker (Hacking Device) Marker, Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) THORAKITES (Forward Observer) Submachine gun, Chain Rifle, Flash Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (13) THORAKITES Submachine gun, Chain Rifle, Flash Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (12) THORAKITES Submachine gun, Chain Rifle, Flash Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (12) THORAKITES Submachine gun, Chain Rifle, Flash Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (12)2 SWC | 100 Points Open with Army 5 Bob Smith fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Mar 29, 2015 |
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It would be silly not to. I wasn't sure if you were married to Vedic or Greek or whatever. I'm into the Vedic stuff, mostly because I already have started collecting them as an addon to my NCA. Cyberpunkey Monkey fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Mar 29, 2015 |
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Flipswitch posted:Achilles abusers in N2 can go gently caress off, I had to put up with that oval office for years. He's still really, really drat good. He is. The 6-inch careful move + Stealth is an absolutely phenomenal ability, because it means that he has the speed and firepower of a TAG, but has counters to a lot of a TAG's weaknesses due to his really good dodge and CC ability. I mean, throwing Monofilament CCW guys at Achilles is probably still going to kill him, but CC24 and MA5 mean it's not nearly as safe. I've found that he isn't as good at facerolling people anymore but you can dodge through a lot of territory without provoking AROs if you don't mind burning orders and there are very few things which enjoy a PH15 EXP CCW to the face. Also, because the most common Fire weapons are flamethrowers, which Achilles can now dodge almost all of the time, burning his ODD off is much, much harder. If Impetuous didn't remove Partial Cover MODs, I'd say that N3 Achilles might well be stronger than N2 Achilles. My only real complaint is that there's no Heavy Shotgun version anymore. A cheap(er) close-range assassin version of Achilles would be fantastic for certain lists.
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Thats exactly why he lost it. They couldnt balance his statline, stealth and shotguns on a single package.
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Thats exactly why he lost it. They couldnt balance his statline, stealth and shotguns on a single package.
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Thats exactly why he lost it. They couldnt balance his statline, stealth and shotguns on a single package.
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LumberingTroll posted:Thanks. Since no one at all stepped up to comment, I'll give my impression: I think it looks a bit dense for a fixed board that will be having more scatter added to it. Some people like a dense board - indeed, my group often plays on boards as dense - but my gut feeling is that warbands are going to be a touch strong on it. Corbeau fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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Corbeau posted:Since no one at all stepped up to comment, I'll give my impression: I think it looks a bit dense for a fixed board that will be having more scatter added to it. Some people like a dense board - indeed, my group often plays on boards as dense - but my gut feeling is that warbands are going to be a touch strong on it. Agreed. Lots of features looks cool but ultimately skews toward short-range and cheap troops. Here's a decent video showing off reasonable terrain density: http://blip.tv/beastsofwar/setting-up-your-infinity-gaming-table-6623831
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